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[teh DRUMPf!!]

Shepard obviously survived the crash using the MAKO.

Every marine is ZG (zero-gravity) certified, per Ashley. So when Shepard realized he was screwed, he put his training to use by locating the MAKO and getting inside to safety, using his punctured suit as a makeshift jet-pack to move forward. So, he survives the crash and fall, only to freeze to death on Alchera. Enter the Blue Suns. The rest is in the books, literally (ME:R).

Once and for all, an explanation for how Shepard remained intact. I did what you could not, OP. Smell the greatness.

[JasonShepard]

Well, that would explain why the MAKO is in such good shape at the crash... I like it. 
(Wasn't Zulu the one to come up with that theory?)

Modifié par JasonShepard, 22 novembre 2013 - 04:21 .

[Daemul]

It sounds like something Zulu would come up with. What ever happened to Zulu anyway?

[JasonShepard]

To the best of my knowledge, left after the end of ME3. Given what BSN turned into for a couple of months back then, I can't say I blame him.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

JasonShepard wrote...

Well, that would explain why the MAKO is in such good shape at the crash... I like it. 
(Wasn't Zulu the one to come up with that theory?)

Ah, yes. Dammit! I thought I came up with all this on the spot, but now I remember where it came from...

Bogus claims of originality aside, that explanation a breath of fresh air ITT, where folks are disputing whether or not Shepard was traveling at high speeds and claiming his armor was a landing cushion for what's just a bad skydiving-accident.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 22 novembre 2013 - 04:50 .

[Rasofe]

So this discussion is exhausted right?

[Fixers0]

Because bad writing?

[Erez Kristal]

JasonShepard wrote...

iakus wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

When, if ever, is it directly stated that Shepard was recovered from the planet's surface and was not simply drifting in space?

I don't remember ME2 being specific about where the Blue Suns found the boy, but I also never read ME:Redemption, so I don't know if it was stated in there.

So until someone proves to me that Shepard was canonically recovered from the planet surface, I'm happy simply assuming that the atmospheric re-entry never happened.

Shepard's helmet is found on the surface of Alchera.

If Shepard had landed on Alchera, it's unlikely that he or she would have been anywhere near the Normandy crash-site, especially since by the end of the opening cinematic Shepard is nowhere near the ship itself.

Given that, and since it's easier to explain Lazarus by assuming Shepard didn't land on Alchera, I just assume that helmet was a spare. (Given ME1's inventory system, most Shepards will have had entire spare suits of armor by that point in time...) 

the Normandy crash site was obviously a fake. there were too many weird things related to that crash site for it to make any sense. buts that's a subject for another thread. and its interesting enough for me to be the one who starts it.

[Erez Kristal]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

Well, that would explain why the MAKO is in such good shape at the crash... I like it. 
(Wasn't Zulu the one to come up with that theory?)

Ah, yes. Dammit! I thought I came up with all this on the spot, but now I remember where it came from...

Bogus claims of originality aside, that explanation a breath of fresh air ITT, where folks are disputing whether or not Shepard was traveling at high speeds and claiming his armor was a landing cushion for what's just a bad skydiving-accident.

Jokes aside.

Since the mako was no where near shepard when shepard just started to fall into the planet we will have to settle for low crash speed. I would also assume that If shepard was to make it into the mako, then shepard would have not died that day.


I am just trying to help people understand there is an ingame solution to shepard condition upon his death, and fight the completely charred corpse/human goo nonsense.

Modifié par erezike, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:06 .

[SlottsMachine]

Daemul wrote...

It sounds like something Zulu would come up with. What ever happened to Zulu anyway?

Yeah, Mako theory is the best. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

This.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

This is just like a Seival thread.

[dreamgazer]

erezike wrote...

the Normandy crash site was obviously a fake.

Oh, yes. Obviously.

[Argentoid]

Rasofe wrote...

"Good writing" has and always will be a way for people like you to throw hollow criticism around instead of saying anything meaningful. I don't particularly care how well a story is written or told, I only care if the story is good.

That was a good one. Seriously. I remember you said you were not good at humour! Well, that, my friend, is a good joke. Ah, the tears.

[Erez Kristal]

dreamgazer wrote...

erezike wrote...

the Normandy crash site was obviously a fake.

Oh, yes. Obviously.

The Normandy explosion propelled the ship parts in different directions. how they did find themselves so close to one another? and why no salvage team went to retrieve top alliance military vessel for two years?
Choose between plot hole and a fake.
I choose fake.

More so. shepard has plenty of helmets. there is no indication the helmet on the crash site is the one he/she was wearing at the time of the crash.

And I still see no one of the critics answering why they are so sure of the super high speed when entering alchera. my bet is because that's just a made up and baseless assumption by people who cant admit when they are wrong.

[Erez Kristal]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

This.

canons push away the projectile by focusing the explosive pushing power in one direction. when the explosion isn't focused. it pushes at a much lower force in all directions. which is why the canon example is a bad one, shepard wasn't sitting inside a canon like one of the bugs bunny cartoons.  

[dreamgazer]

erezike wrote...

And I still see no one of the critics answering why they are so sure of the super high speed when entering alchera. my bet is because that's just a made up and baseless assumption by people who cant admit when they are wrong.

No, they just know better than to argue with extensive headcanon and willful avoidance of science.  

Definitely no admission of being "wrong".

[MassivelyEffective0730]

erezike wrote...
canons push away the projectile by focusing the explosive pushing power in one direction. when the explosion isn't focused. it pushes at a much lower force in all directions. which is why the canon example is a bad one, shepard wasn't sitting inside a canon like one of the bugs bunny cartoons.  

How to explain it:

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

erezike wrote...

the Normandy crash site was obviously a fake.

Oh, yes. Obviously.

Indeed.

[Xamufam]

Modifié par Troxa, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:44 .

[Erez Kristal]

dreamgazer wrote...

erezike wrote...

And I still see no one of the critics answering why they are so sure of the super high speed when entering alchera. my bet is because that's just a made up and baseless assumption by people who cant admit when they are wrong.

No, they just know better than to argue with extensive headcanon and willful avoidance of science.  

Definitely no admission of being "wrong".

It looks like troubles of admitting you are wrong since I don't see you or massively effective or argentoid, explaining why shepard had to be propelled at super high speeds towards the planet.

all you are doing is circling around the bush. goofy portraits aren't going to get your point delivered. only a rational explanation as to why shepard falling speed into the planet had to be  of tens of thousands of miles when the Normandy was obviously flying at a different direction.

 unless you can come up with and explanation as to why that is the situation your entire argument hangs on nothing.

[Xamufam]

JasonShepard wrote...

iakus wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

When, if ever, is it directly stated that Shepard was recovered from the planet's surface and was not simply drifting in space?

I don't remember ME2 being specific about where the Blue Suns found the boy, but I also never read ME:Redemption, so I don't know if it was stated in there.

So until someone proves to me that Shepard was canonically recovered from the planet surface, I'm happy simply assuming that the atmospheric re-entry never happened.

Shepard's helmet is found on the surface of Alchera.

If Shepard had landed on Alchera, it's unlikely that he or she would have been anywhere near the Normandy crash-site, especially since by the end of the opening cinematic Shepard is nowhere near the ship itself.

Given that, and since it's easier to explain Lazarus by assuming Shepard didn't land on Alchera, I just assume that helmet was a spare. (Given ME1's inventory system, most Shepards will have had entire spare suits of armor by that point in time...) 

the helmet was not a spare the answer is in the arrival DLC at 00:00

Modifié par Troxa, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:50 .

[Erez Kristal]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

erezike wrote...
canons push away the projectile by focusing the explosive pushing power in one direction. when the explosion isn't focused. it pushes at a much lower force in all directions. which is why the canon example is a bad one, shepard wasn't sitting inside a canon like one of the bugs bunny cartoons.  

How to explain it:

The point is to try to find some meaningful claims in your arguments. but it seems like you left reason behind long ago. and only use gifs now.
the only way for shepard to fall into the planet is super high speed to burn on planet rentry is if the energy of Normandy explosion was high enough to push shepard that fast. seeing as how shepard wasn't burn completely we can assume it wasn't.

Unless you have any arguments to support you super high velocity I can assume this argument is finish.

[Erez Kristal]

Troxa wrote...


the helmet was not a spare the answer is in the arrival DLC at 00:00

I don't remember it mentioned in arrival. but if Hackett mentioned it. it doesn't make it true. you know Hackett has a tendency to lie. (renegade mission mass effect 1 )

[Xamufam]

Modifié par Troxa, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:53 .