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Erezike, do you honestly think you're being taken seriously?

The reason we're not arguing with you is because you've basically made up your own theory about things and are literally denying things that do happen because they don't fit with your headcanon.

It's like a Seival thread. Like Seival, you aren't being taken seriously.

You're like Seival because you refuse the idea of being wrong. Even in this very thread, you're denying the possibility of contradiction. As I mentioned above, you deliberately denying that something that isn't compatible with your vision must be a fake. 

We're having fun and beating around the bush because that's all this thread deserves. There's literally no rational argument to be had when you deny rational argument because it's not in your headcanon.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Erezike, do you honestly think you're being taken seriously?

I obviously think you are trying very hard to come out smart on this case, hiding being gifs. instead of just addressing the issue at hand.

that's a common human behavior for people (or officers) who have no idea what they are talking about.

just put one thing to support your high speed argument without trying to deflect every little thing by spouting rhetorics. be constructive.

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erezike wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Erezike, do you honestly think you're being taken seriously?

I obviously think you are trying very hard to come out smart on this case, hiding being gifs. instead of just addressing the issue at hand.

that's a common human behavior for people (or officers) who have no idea what they are talking about.

just put one thing to support your argument without trying to deflect every little thing by spouting rhetorics


I'm not spouting rhetoric, or making personal attacks (which is dramatically uncalled for here in your words to me.)

I'm telling you that I think you're exhibiting symptoms that indicate a mild divorce from reality.

There's no issue or argument to be had when you refuse the possibility of being wrong. You're rejecting things in the game and claiming it as objective fact that you're right. I really think you're taking that rewrite thing of yours a little too seriously.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

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you are avoiding the subject. you are making an argument based on nothing. and when confronted with it you post gifs. what am I to learn by this?

Just answer the question. why do you think shepard was falling at super high speed? what are you basing this claim on?

Modifié par erezike, 22 novembre 2013 - 06:03 .


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erezike wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Erezike, do you honestly think you're being taken seriously?

I obviously think you are trying very hard to come out smart on this case, hiding being gifs. instead of just addressing the issue at hand.

that's a common human behavior for people (or officers) who have no idea what they are talking about.

just put one thing to support your high speed argument without trying to deflect every little thing by spouting rhetorics. be constructive.


So let me get this straight.

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That about sum it up?

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erezike wrote...

Just answer the question. why do you think shepard was falling at super high speed? what are you basing this claim on?


By what standard are we definint super high speed, though?  Terminal velocity?  Supersonic?

An argument can be made that Shepard wasn't falling fast enough to burn up like a meteorite, but that still leaves impact.  Even at much lower speeds, Shep's body would be smashed to gooey bits.   

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erezike wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Erezike, do you honestly think you're being taken seriously?

I obviously think you are trying very hard to come out smart on this case, hiding being gifs. instead of just addressing the issue at hand.

that's a common human behavior for people (or officers) who have no idea what they are talking about.

just put one thing to support your high speed argument without trying to deflect every little thing by spouting rhetorics. be constructive.


No dude, he is right. I just stopped arguing with you because it was a waste of time. Instead of acknowledging your error, you just divage and make up stuff. 

Stop headcannoning, that's all I can say. It seems like YOU are trying very hard to come out smart. 

Look at yourself in the mirror, you are just a Bio-Drone

Just answer the question. why do you think shepard was falling at super high speed? what are you basing this claim on?


Real life physics.

Modifié par Argentoid, 22 novembre 2013 - 06:13 .


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I've stated why I know that Shepard is falling at a very high velocity. The evidence is yours to ignore, since I honestly believe that you are, not unwilling, but unable to accept evidence that counters your headcanon (see your assertion that the crash site is a fake and that Hackett saying something must obviously be a lie due to misinformation on a prior, minor mission).

As I said, there's a reason that you're not being taken seriously. I am honestly, from my own observations, seeing that you have some kind of complex for delusions of grandeur. There's nothing constructive I have to add, except you might want to seek some kind of mental health professional. All I can say is that it was mildly entertaining until you made that jab about me as an Officer. Now, I'm just going to say that it's a joke. This whole thing is a joke. You're a joke.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 22 novembre 2013 - 06:12 .


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iakus wrote...

erezike wrote...

Just answer the question. why do you think shepard was falling at super high speed? what are you basing this claim on?


By what standard are we definint super high speed, though?  Terminal velocity?  Supersonic?

An argument can be made that Shepard wasn't falling fast enough to burn up like a meteorite, but that still leaves impact.  Even at much lower speeds, Shep's body would be smashed to gooey bits.   


Impact wouldn't turn shepard into goo because impact speed is limited by terminal velocity and mass effect fields which might also be  used to reduce mass and reduce terminal velocity. or propelling speed at time of the first Normandy blast. 

"Shock Absorbers data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3DEdit
Installing micro-gravimetric emitters into a combat suit artificially increases mass, providing protection against concussive force delivered by explosives, high impact ammo and biotic attacks such as Lift or Throw. " 


Combat Exoskeleton data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3DEdit
This prototype armor upgrade combines mechanical augmentation, element zero microcores and firewall technology to give the wearer brute strength, resistance to weapons force and resistance to biotic and tech attacks.

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Argentoid wrote...

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afcourse you think he is right. he is saying exactly what you are always saying without providing any real physics to support your claims while still calling it physics just answer  the argument and stop running away

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The normandy crash was an inside job by the volus to get more money. They obviously used thermite paint all over the interior while nobody was looking. And why was there never a second shooter for the pope caught? It's all the volsonic orders plot to bring the illuminati into the reptilian mothership.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I've stated why I know that Shepard is falling at a very high velocity. The evidence is yours to ignore, since I honestly believe that you are, not unwilling, but unable to accept evidence that counters your headcanon (see your assertion that the crash site is a fake and that Hackett saying something must obviously be a lie due to misinformation on a prior, minor mission).

As I said, there's a reason that you're not being taken seriously. I am honestly, from my own observations, seeing that you have some kind of complex for delusions of grandeur. There's nothing constructive I have to add, except you might want to seek some kind of mental health professional. All I can say is that it was mildly entertaining until you made that jab about me as an Officer. Now, I'm just going to say that it's a joke. This whole thing is a joke. You're a joke.

Where is the evidence? you only stated shepard was falling in very high velocity I didn't see what you based it on.
and If you did state it. why do you have to make such a hassle about it instead of just stating it again. please show me where you stated why so I could agree or argue against it.

but please stop playing around the subject by putting the blame on my headcanon. my headcanon is working very well and successfully sealed any opened plot holes in me1&me2. 

Just answer the argument behind this thread by providing your facts for your assertions and stop playing around the bush. 
I jabbed you at being an officer because that's a typical behavior  for people in command. there is a saying-joke in the military for when you are in command. right or not right. speak with confidence.  you sir. seem to have a serious problem of debating when proved wrong.

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Dude, you seriously can't see how pompous and drama-queeny you're being right now?

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

The normandy crash was an inside job by the volus to get more money. They obviously used thermite paint all over the interior while nobody was looking. And why was there never a second shooter for the pope caught? It's all the volsonic orders plot to bring the illuminati into the reptilian mothership.


What are you talking about? The entire Reaper war was clearly and obviously a conspiracy by the seafood industry. They initiated a massive campaign to destroy the galaxy, knowing that the shape and size of the Reapers would lead to a massive outpouring of hatred towards calamari and lobsters. And this would translate into food, thus causing a massive raise in demand for calamari and lobsters, thus allowing the seafood industry to profit immeasureably from people's insatiable rage and subsequent hunger.

This is the image that proves it.

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#115
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erezike wrote...

Impact wouldn't turn shepard into goo because impact speed is limited by terminal velocity and mass effect fields which might also be  used to reduce mass and reduce terminal velocity. or propelling speed at time of the first Normandy blast. 

"Shock Absorbers data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3DEdit
Installing micro-gravimetric emitters into a combat suit artificially increases mass, providing protection against concussive force delivered by explosives, high impact ammo and biotic attacks such as Lift or Throw. " 


Combat Exoskeleton data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAABAAEAQAICTAEAOw%3D%3DEdit
This prototype armor upgrade combines mechanical augmentation, element zero microcores and firewall technology to give the wearer brute strength, resistance to weapons force and resistance to biotic and tech attacks.


But falls at terminal velocity are...terminal.  Humans die from much lower altitudes, even.  A drop from space would be catastrophically damaging.

As for Shepard's armor, Shepard is simply wearing standard Onyx armor.  We are not privy to any extras that may have been modded onto it.  What's more, we clearly see this armor is badly damaged.  Ruptured, in fact, in that final explosion.  And Miranda's journals at the Lazarus station indicated that vacuum exposure was a contributing factor in the difficulty they had in rebuilding Shep.  Indicating the extent of how badly Shepard's armor was damaged.

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Bah, I wish this thread would just die already.
No one has said anything interesting since Zulu's Mako theory was brought up. Now it's just some wise-asses flaming the OP and anyone else getting in their crosshairs. I'd blame erezike for going out of his way to start a thread on this, but that certainly doesn't justify you people going out of your way to explode this discussion.
He's not listening to you, you're not listening to him. Move on.

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erezike wrote...

but please stop playing around the subject by putting the blame on my headcanon. my headcanon is working very well and successfully sealed any opened plot holes in me1&me2. 


AHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH

No one agreed with you, except for Rasofe, maybe. 

Welcome to the world of physics

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People have nothing to do than overanalyse things. Have some suspension of disbelief and enjoy the novelty of role-playing a character who pulled a Jesus and got resurrected.

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steph285 wrote...

People have nothing to do than overanalyse things. Have some suspension of disbelief and enjoy the novelty of role-playing a character who pulled a Jesus and got resurrected.


That breaks my suspension of disbelief.

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A dead person ability to remain intact after falling through a planets atmosphere is the disbelief limiter in a world of giant selfaware ai ships bend on galactic destruction, an element that allows the dismissal of the laws ofphysics. Not to mention the ability to resurrect someone.

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Rasofe wrote...

Bah, I wish this thread would just die already.


I can help with that for a price.

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People just need to sit back and enjoy the ride. It's like pacific rim, a nice movie that isn't meant to be taken as the highest form of narrative perfection.

I would pity people who would give that movie as much scrutiny as mass effect is getting imo.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

People just need to sit back and enjoy the ride. It's like pacific rim, a nice movie that isn't meant to be taken as the highest form of narrative perfection.

I would pity people who would give that movie as much scrutiny as mass effect is getting imo.


I do enjoy it. The only thing is that I'm here because this guy cannot see that he is wrong. We are proving facts, but he goes like "LLALALALALLALA I cant hear you!"

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Bah, I wish this thread would just die already.


I can help with that for a price.


Which I'm sure is quite reasonable and does not require both your arm and your leg.

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I thought this was a Sevial thread till I saw it was not Sevial. What the heck is happening to the bsn?