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[Ieldra]

"...and bragging rights, of course" -- Count Prosper de Montfort, in "Mark of the Assassin"

This is an attempt to collect most predictions for the DAI storyline in one thread, to be used as a reference and guide. I'm making this mostly in the hope I won't need to subscribe to four dozen threads in order to see what people have said about things to come, but I hope it will be of some to others.

If you post something, it would be nice if you also posted why you think this will happen, though "wild guess" is perfectly acceptable. too. 

I'll start with collecting my own predictions I've made in other threads:

Who we are up against:

(1) Flemeth will not be an antagonist
Rationale: She's helped the Warden and Hawke, and she does not appear to be interested in the destruction of civilization.

(2) The main antagonist of DAI will not be anyone we've heard of by name before.
Rationale: there are hints this entity has orchestrated events on an extraordinary scale. Nobody who has appeared in the story so far appears to have that ability, nor goals on that scale, except for Flemeth (see below).

(3) Flemeth and DAI's main antagonist are playing some kind of cosmic chess game against each other, with characters and nations as the figures. We will be able to influence the outcome of the current chapter of that game.
Rationale: appears almost natural given (1) and (2).

(4) We will not be able to kill the main antagonist itself. It may end up severely weakened or banished, but not destroyed.
Rationale: wild guess. I'm actually not too sure of this, since there are reasons pulling in one or the other direction, so I'm leaning somewhat out of the window here.

(5) The final confrontation of DAI will take place in the Black City
Rationale: The demon invasion comes from the Fade, and the City is its only distinctive feature AND a place where nobody has been before except the ancient magisters. Thus it's a perfect place for an unknown magical antagonist to hide.

Magic:

(1) There will be a fundamental change in what it means to be a mage on Thedas. The future state of things will not be less controversial than the current one, but its focus will shift significantly. I have posted some possible scenarios in this thread. 
Rationale: (a) Rhys' statements in "Asunder" that "We know nothing of demons, or Tranquility, or even our own limitations." and his insistence that it is necessary to look at things with new eyes. ( Cole. © Many people are sick of mages vs. templars and want that conflict on a backburner.

The Golden City, the darkspawn and the Old Gods

(1) The magisters and the Old Gods are both victims of a bigger plot. What happened at the City was nothing of their doing. DAI's unknown antagonist was behind it, and we will come to know what the purpose was or is.
Rationale: given what we know about the magisters and the Old Gods, none of them achieved anything desirable there.

(2) Dumat still exists. We shall know.
Rationale: the altar is still working. Also, there may be states of existence for gods beyond what's possible for mortals.

(3) There will be no conclusive evidence for or against the Maker's existence.
Rationale: either would destroy the nature of Andrasteanism as a religion based on faith, leaving Thedas without anything to anchor themes inextricably connected to such religions.

So much for now. Perhaps I'm connecting too many dots here, but I'll let these stand. Now for everyone else's scenarios...

[The Xand]

The Maker is a primal demon of the Fade and the Black City is his prison, and he was behind Andraste's visions and using 12 hibernating great dragons as ventriloquist's puppets to encourage humans to breach the Black City. The Dragon Age games have been building up to a big showdown with the Maker in the Black City for ages now, ever since the intro to the first game.

Modifié par The Xand, 22 novembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[lil yonce]

Here's my idea about Inquisition in this thread. http://social.biowar.../index/16452459

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 22 novembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[SgtSteel91]

The Inquisitor will need a working and untainted Eluvian for some plot thing.

edit:

And you will need Merrill's help to do it. If she was friendly with Hawke in DA2 then she'll be happy to help. But if she was a rival then you will need to convince her to help you.

Modifié par SgtSteel91, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:08 .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

The Inquisitor survived the initial veil tear because he/she was posessed. Wynne/Evangeline style.

So Inquisitor is the demons.

[Vulpe]

 The source of The Taint is the Black City that never was actually golden, but served as a prison for the source of The Taint, be it one or more dark entities ( maybe The Forgotten Ones from the elven legends ).

The physical world and The Fade were separaded via The Veil to prevent any interactions of a sentient race like the humans with the Black City prison.

The Old Gods have never spoken to the magisters. The dark force/forces behind The Black City tricked them in believing that The Old Gods were the ones that contacted them. Why I believe this ? After the ritual that transformed the magisters in darkspawns, The Old Gods went silent.

The ritual that the magisters did wasn't only a teleportation ritual. They were triked and the ritual served also to weaken The Black City Prison so that the dark entity/entities could pass The Taint to them and bring it to the physical world.

The Old Gods play a similar role with The Seven Seals Of The Apocalypse from The Bible,only that their role is to mentaint The Veil and possibly The Black Prison up and going, thus preventing an apocalyptic scenario. 

The Archdemons are just puppets and conduits that the dark force/forces imprisoned in The Black City use to control the darkspawn.

Flemeth is of a similar nature to The Old Gods and her role is to make sure that the seals remain sealed. Prior to the coming of The Taint in Thedas, she had no problem in doing her job. Now she can't directly enter in a fight with the bulk of the darkspawn forces and an Archdemon because she could risk beeing tainted. That's why she acts indirectly by using individuals like Maric, The Warden and Hawke to do her bidings.

EDIT

The Inquisitor is killed or nearly killed during the big Veil tear, but not only demons get out from The Fade. Benevolent spirits get out and they bind with him/her. The Inquisitor ends up having a legion of good spirits inside of him/her and it's the only person that's able to close the major Veil Tears by using the power granted by those spirits. 

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:15 .

[SgtSteel91]

Flemeth may not be evil but self-righteous players can still kill her because they believe the people of Tedas should not be played with like toys to cosmic forces.

[Vulpe]

 A theory regarding red lyrium - how it works, how The Red Templars are able to supply themselves with it and its effects on its users

A possible origin for Vivienne, the female mage companion.

A theory regarding the Kal-Sharok dwarves, their nature and the possible effects they and their informations might bring to the world if we make contact with them in DA:I .

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:30 .

[N7recruit]

 Okay here we go

(1) The Architect Will be after the OGB
Rational: The Architect is trying to free his breathern from the call of the old gods. Granted we don't know what Morrigans plans for the OGB are, or what the child is even like but the Architect would be very interested in this.

(2) Morrigan wants the OGB to break into the Golden City
Rational: It was the old gods who instructed the ancient magisters how to do this in the first place. If her Child has the memories/Knowlage/ Power of Urthmiel, he would know how such a thing is possible or how the Magisters went wrong.

(3) Corephious will Posess The Warden, Alistair or Logain & Control a section of Grey Wardens
Rational: We Already Know he has the abality to posess a Grey Warden when he dies & he can inflence Wardens through His "Calling" Maybe a reason why we have a Grey Warden companion in the inquisition if the Rest of his order went nuts & he wants to restore order. 

I'll post more later but do you guys think Bioware will use the "Fight against God " Plot for DA:I or in future games of the series? Might be just me but I get the feeling this is where it is going.

[Reznore57]

Flemeth and Morrigan :They will fight.And only one will survive.If Flemeth lives , she will posess her daughter
body.If it's Morrigan , she will take her mother role : keeping balance in Thedas from the shadows.

The OGB : He will be destroyed .To repair the veil or Morrigan will absorb his power to be Flemeth equal.

The Dread Wolf: A very old elven dude , Flemeth equal ,will be the Dread Wolf avatar.He's stuck in the Fade.
He and Flemeth were very old buddies back in the very old days , they trapped the old gods together ...One was supposed to keep the peace in Thedas , and the other in the fade.Then they fought over Arlathan , the elves were getting a bit too good at magic ...Flemeth pushed humans to attack the elves.
Juts to annoy Flemeth (and because he lost all his elven dreamer friends and was really bored) , the Dread Wolf tricked the magisters.
Anyway , he's not responsible for the veil tear.He will be mysterious , and just say that it's simply the nature of the world to destroy itself , magic being too chaotic.He and Flemeth wanted to give mortals a chance , trapping the old gods who regulated magic by killing everyone.The veil being simply a safeguard so things would go smooth in theory.

The Black City : we will go there with an Eluvian .It's a piece of the world before the veil , the city was build by elves and it existed also in Thedas , it was the heart of Arlathan.
It's also the place where some ritual was performed to trap the old gods and create the veil , Flemeth and the dread wolf will gain their full power there and explain how to save Thedas.Probably going to require some sacrifice.
Flemeth and the Dread Wolf will troll our Inquisitor to death and they will troll each others.
We will learn something awful about the nature of magic and the taint...

                                                                                                    

Anyway I'm probably wrong...But it's fun to imagine Flemeth with a nemesis .I sort of imagine them like some kind of old bitter couple.
 

[Ieldra]

SergeantSnookie wrote...
The Inquisitor survived the initial veil tear because he/she was posessed. Wynne/Evangeline style.

That would be quite the twist, and quite in line with my scenario. Very interesting idea.

[Fast Jimmy]

Big Bad shows up, eats Mages and Templars, Sandal ENCHANTS Big Bad in the face, everyone has victory punch and pie.

The End

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 22 novembre 2013 - 07:34 .

[Ieldra]

@JulianWellpit:
You've made quite an elaborate scenario which links many elements. Very neat. However, I admit I'd be disappointed if DAI's big bad was another "Sealed Evil In A Can".

[Vulpe]

N7recruit wrote...

I'll post more later but do you guys think Bioware will use the "Fight against God " Plot for DA:I or in future games of the series? Might be just me but I get the feeling this is where it is going.

Not really. I don't think we'll fight the actual creator of the world ( I will keep calling him The Great Anonym)

Here are some theories of the matter:

1) The Great Anonym created the world and then left it. His existance will never be proven or denied.

2) Flemeth denounced her demi-god like status and stucked herself in the posses body cycle to survive. She was the first OGB and her first incarnation was Andraste. She tricked humanity in believing in The Maker and fought against Tevinter to prevent a second ritual like the one the magisters did. She tried to create a religion that restricted magic users to prevent such events happening again,but she didn't wan't to make it in a magic intolerant one. She overestimated humans and they reinterpreted her teachings , thus becoming intolerant towards magic users. From here her regrets.

3) As Ieldra2 said, there might be a possible confrontation in The Black City. I do not think it will be against a god/ some gods, but demi-god like figure/s like Flemeth and I'm not sure it will take place in DA:I ( if such a thing happens).

EXTRA

1) Fen'Harel was a force of balance. He chosed to not help any of the god-like entities from the elven pantheon, be them The Forgotten Ones or the good entities. Because of his neutrality, he could interact with both entity groups, but neighter didn't really liked him because he would refuse to offer support.

2)Because the war between The Elven Gods and The Forgotten Ones was destroying the balance of the world and the world itself, Fen'Harel tricks The Elven Gods and uses their essence to create The Veil and to imprison The Forgotten Ones.

3)Fen'Harel isn't one entity, but the ancient name of a race or at least a group.Dragons are actually Fen'Harel - more preciselly Flemeth and The Old Gods.Their role is to prevent the escape of the dark entity/entities that lie in The Black City. The Old Gods play the role of The Seals and Flemeth is their guardian. 

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 22 novembre 2013 - 06:45 .

[TKavatar]

The ending cutscene will show a massive fleet of Qunari dreadnoughts heading straight for Tevinter.

[victorbarry]

The Xand wrote...

The Maker is a primal demon of the Fade and the Black City is his prison, and he was behind Andraste's visions and using 12 hibernating great dragons as ventriloquist's puppets to encourage humans to breach the Black City. The Dragon Age games have been building up to a big showdown with the Maker in the Black City for ages now, ever since the intro to the first game.

[victorbarry]

The Xand wrote...

The Maker is a primal demon of the Fade and the Black City is his prison, and he was behind Andraste's visions and using 12 hibernating great dragons as ventriloquist's puppets to encourage humans to breach the Black City. The Dragon Age games have been building up to a big showdown with the Maker in the Black City for ages now, ever since the intro to the first game.

i like your theory.it sounds crazy and logical at the same time. the andrastians will be devastated:devil:

[Ieldra]

TKavatar wrote...
The ending cutscene will show a massive fleet of Qunari dreadnoughts heading straight for Tevinter.

Uh....that sounds unpleasantly plausible. On the other hand, one game later we might have the extremely interesting situation of having to help Tevinter against the qunari or be forcibly converted to the Qun. That would be a plot quite appropriate for the setting.

[MisterJB]

TKavatar wrote...

The ending cutscene will show a massive fleet of Qunari dreadnoughts heading straight for Tevinter.

Modifié par MisterJB, 22 novembre 2013 - 07:05 .

[Ieldra]

The Xand wrote...
The Maker is a primal demon of the Fade and the Black City is his prison, and he was behind Andraste's visions and using 12 hibernating great dragons as ventriloquist's puppets to encourage humans to breach the Black City. The Dragon Age games have been building up to a big showdown with the Maker in the Black City for ages now, ever since the intro to the first game.

I predict that this won't happen. I wouldn't be too unhappy if it did, but that's not a story EA/Bioware will ever tell. You'd have to ask one of the big Japanese studios to create it.
 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 novembre 2013 - 07:06 .

[The Elder King]

TKavatar wrote...

The ending cutscene will show a massive fleet of Qunari dreadnoughts heading straight for Tevinter.

I'd say that they'll invade everyone, but still a likely scenario.

[The Xand]

victorbarry wrote...

The Xand wrote...

The Maker is a primal demon of the Fade and the Black City is his prison, and he was behind Andraste's visions and using 12 hibernating great dragons as ventriloquist's puppets to encourage humans to breach the Black City. The Dragon Age games have been building up to a big showdown with the Maker in the Black City for ages now, ever since the intro to the first game.

i like your theory.it sounds crazy and logical at the same time. the andrastians will be devastated:devil:

Thank you! It puts me in mind of that scene in Blade Runner where Roy meets the creator of the androids and says "It's not an easy thing to meet your Maker." Suffice it to say he gouges his Maker's eyes out and crushes his skull.

Here's the clip.

Modifié par The Xand, 22 novembre 2013 - 07:07 .

[Vulpe]

1) All dragons were sentient, but after the creation of The Veil, due to the lost of their strong connection to The Fade, they regresed to an intelligent beast state.

2) The qunari race is a magically altered race, similar to the orcs from the Might & Magic univers. While the orcs from the M&M univers were altered using magic and demon blood, the qunari were altered using magic and dragon blood. They were originally humans or elves. Their would have played the role of a chosen race, a race whose role would be to assist Flemeth and The Old Gods after the creation of The Veil due to the regress the rest of the dragons underwent.

For some reason, they rejected their mission or rebeled against their creators at a point before all the augmentations were completed.

What makes me think of this ? 

1)In Dragon Age: The Silent Grove, Yavana says that there was a time "before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten," when dragons ruled the skies.

2)According to Sten, The Tome Of Koslun says that "the Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men".

3)Sandal's prophecy : "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide." . He might not refer only to dwarves, humans, elves and qunari, but also dragons.

4) BW concept arts that put a qunari and a dragon in the same image, their resemblance ( in the concept ) and this :

[The Xand]

JulianWellpit wrote...

1) All dragons were sentient, but after the creation of The Veil, due to the lost of their strong connection to The Fade, they regresed to an intelligent beast state.

2) The qunari race is a magically altered race, similar to the orcs from the Might & Magic univers. While the orcs from the M&M univers were altered using magic and demon blood, the qunari were altered using magic and dragon blood. They were originally humans or elves. Their would have played the role of a chosen race, a race whose role would be to assist Flemeth and The Old Gods after the creation of The Veil due to the regress the rest of the dragons underwent.

For some reason, they rejected their mission or rebeled against their creators at a point before all the augmentations were completed.

What makes me think of this ? 

1)In Dragon Age: The Silent Grove, Yavana says that there was a time "before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten," when dragons ruled the skies.

2)According to Sten, The Tome Of Koslun says that "the Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men".

3)Sandal's prophecy : "One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide." . He might not refer only to dwarves, humans, elves and qunari, but also dragons.

4) BW concept arts that put a qunari and a dragon in the same image, their resemblance ( in the concept ) and this :

Huh. You know, I'd never actually considered that the Qunari might have been dragon men. Suppose the horns, grey skin and large size should have given it away, but their active oppression of mages never really drew it to my attention. It does rather make sense that they'd be a viable race of servants with the dragons going into hibernation and regressing to a more bestial state. Half elven, half dragon. I say elven rather than human because David Gaider hinted that the elven genes are more magical in origin and "adaptive". Besides they've got the pointy ears :L

[Vulpe]

@ Xand 

Yeah, I am inclined to believe that they were most likely elves, but when it comes to magic alteration you can't really be sure  ( qunari can grow beards ). I'll probably make a separate thread regarding this later... or tomorrow. I'm too lazy to do it now. 

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 22 novembre 2013 - 08:46 .