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[Angrywolves]

uh anybody recanted their prediction lately. I'll recant mine. Uh no darkspawn, no Kal sharok, no Architect, no Corypheus, no Dumat. Am I right now ?
How do know anything in DAI ?
We only KNOW what Bioware tells us .
The rest are guesses. shrugs.

[Ieldra]

In Exile wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Hmm....that sound ominous indeed. Where else would such a source of "encroaching darkness" be. The only question is this: how would this power reach out to orchestrate the widespread Chaos and create the Veil tears? The same way it did with the ancient magisters? Then who are its servants?

The encroaching darkness can just be a force of nature, even if a separate group conspired to actually bring it about. 

Yes, but when did that expression ever describe a force of nature in a fantasy story?

[Vulpe]

In Exile wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Hmm....that sound ominous indeed. Where else would such a source of "encroaching darkness" be. The only question is this: how would this power reach out to orchestrate the widespread Chaos and create the Veil tears? The same way it did with the ancient magisters? Then who are its servants?

The encroaching darkness can just be a force of nature, even if a separate group conspired to actually bring it about. 

It would work what you said if the first sentence wasn't there, but because it is you can't cut the phrophecy in half . We have to take it as a whole.

It says that the prison has been breached - that implies that because  of the breaching the encroaching darkness, the shadow is a byproduct of this breaching so it's safe to assume that "the darkness" was held in that prison.

We could say that it refears to the first breaching of The Golden City by the magisters and The Taint, but it wouldn't make sense. Zenovia had visions regarding the future. It wouldn't make sense if she continued to have visions regarding past events after they happened, despite the fact that she can't really be sure of where she currently is placed in time and that she's unaware of the events that happened in the world if she didn't have a vision regarding them.

Because of this I believe that she's reffering to an event that is about to happen sometime in the future of Thedas.

EDIT

Also, it can't be The Fifth Blight. It says that "the shadow will consume all". The Fifth Blight was contained in Ferelden and was quickly resolved. That pharagraph sounds more like it is a more wide spread event, an event that affects all of Thedas. Guess what ? The Veil Tears  in DA:I and their possible implications fit the criteria.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 24 novembre 2013 - 09:57 .

[Dave of Canada]

*cough cough*

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 24 novembre 2013 - 09:50 .

[Metalspoon60]

Its going to end with everyone being imbued with magic, and then bioware will have to do some thinking on where to go from there. Or perhaps the series ends with everyone becoming mages. Anyway the lore points to magic being the origin.

[Ieldra]

Dave of Canada wrote...
*cough cough*

Yes, that is the obvious interpretation. I do think the Veil is artifact of cultural conditioning, as I've outlined in my thread about the nature of the Fade. However, I predict that this "everyone will become a mage" won't actually happen, for the simple reason that I don't believe the writers would want their world and its themes to change that drastically. 

[Vulpe]

Dave of Canada wrote...

*cough cough*

I agree with you. I might add that I think that The Veil was created as a last resort plan to capture and prevent the escape of what lies trapped in The Black City.

Also, I believe that when Sandal's saying that "everyone will be as they were" he's not reffering only to humans,elves, dwarves and qunari, but also to the dragons. I strongly believe that the dragons were a sentient race, but do their weakened connection to The Fade most of them regresed to a bestial state.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 24 novembre 2013 - 10:05 .

[Dave of Canada]

Ieldra2 wrote...

However, I predict that this "everyone will become a mage" won't actually happen, for the simple reason that I don't believe the writers would want their world and its themes to change that drastically. 

Might be the end-goal of whoever is tearing up the fade.

[Direwolf0294]

The Inquisitor gathers allies from various factions, brings them all together for a final attack on the demon forces pouring out of the tear, sacrifices themselves to close the tear and has to make a decision as to whether everyone in the world is made a mage, or magic is sucked from the world leaving mages depowered.

[Allan Schumacher]

Silfren wrote...

Do you perchance have an example of this from Origins or DA2?

Nope.  I never visited the forums for the development of either of those games.

[Wulfram]

If it involved someone admitting they were wrong on the internet, this must have been a truly unique incident.

[Silfren]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Do you perchance have an example of this from Origins or DA2?

Nope.  I never visited the forums for the development of either of those games.

[TEWR]

Prediction: People will die.

[Hellion Rex]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Prediction: People will die.

Lies! Burn the heretic!!

[Silfren]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Prediction: People will die.

But will they be resurrected?  That's the real question.

[Hellion Rex]

Silfren wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Prediction: People will die.

But will they be resurrected?  That's the real question.

Well, the Veil has torn. I think it might be fair to say that we can throw some of the conventional rules out the window.

[kinderschlager]

only thing i will speculate on is that we will have some little nod to mass effect like we had a nod to dragon age in ME 2 during the theifs side mission with the ogre statue

(oh! and someone is having sex with someone [or something])


*reads own signature*

ah crap, i blame the OP

Modifié par kinderschlager, 25 novembre 2013 - 04:07 .

[Ieldra]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

However, I predict that this "everyone will become a mage" won't actually happen, for the simple reason that I don't believe the writers would want their world and its themes to change that drastically. 

Might be the end-goal of whoever is tearing up the fade.

I doubt it. There are enough players who might find this an interesting outcome (me included) and would complain that it's out of character for their Inquisitor not to agree with the plan.

[Vulpe]

 As we know, Rhys is the son of Wynne with an unknown templar. I believe that he's the son of Gregoir. The only person that remembers of the times when Gregoir wasn't part of The Circle is Irwing, he's confident and while he's not something you might call a mage lover, he would never punish or kill a mage without reason. He sounds the kind of honorable and confident man that a young Wynne might fall for.

[In Exile]

JulianWellpit wrote...
It would work what you said if the first sentence wasn't there, but because it is you can't cut the phrophecy in half . We have to take it as a whole.

It says that the prison has been breached - that implies that because  of the breaching the encroaching darkness, the shadow is a byproduct of this breaching so it's safe to assume that "the darkness" was held in that prison.

The actual proprophecy is: "The prison is breached. I see the encroaching darkness. The... the shadow will consume all..." 

The shadow is clearly a reference to the encroaching darkness. There's basis to infer what the connection between the prison being breached and the encroaching darkness actually could be from the prophecy. The prison, for all we know, is the Fade itself. 

None of that tells us whether the darkness actually has a personality. 

Someone could breach the prison and release the shadow or darkness without being shadow or darkness. 

[In Exile]

Ieldra2 wrote...
I doubt it. There are enough players who might find this an interesting outcome (me included) and would complain that it's out of character for their Inquisitor not to agree with the plan.

They could just make it enough of a wide scale genocide that it'd be impossible to agree with without being bonkers, and the precedent of not actually allowing the player to commit genocide is not a very big intrusion into player agency (anymore than preventing the player from starting a genocide at any time is). 

[durasteel]

"The prison" could be Corypheus's prison.

[Vulpe]

In Exile wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...
It would work what you said if the first sentence wasn't there, but because it is you can't cut the phrophecy in half . We have to take it as a whole.

It says that the prison has been breached - that implies that because  of the breaching the encroaching darkness, the shadow is a byproduct of this breaching so it's safe to assume that "the darkness" was held in that prison.

The actual proprophecy is: "The prison is breached. I see the encroaching darkness. The... the shadow will consume all..." 

The shadow is clearly a reference to the encroaching darkness. There's basis to infer what the connection between the prison being breached and the encroaching darkness actually could be from the prophecy. The prison, for all we know, is the Fade itself. 

None of that tells us whether the darkness actually has a personality. 

Someone could breach the prison and release the shadow or darkness without being shadow or darkness. 

I never intended to refer to them as two different things. I've said "the encroaching darkness,the shadow" as a enumeration of different names for the same thing. I agree that "the darkness" and "the shadow" are the same things. 

I agree that the darkness could be anything - from an entity to just a phenomenon ( but not natural ) of world wide proportions. It's very ambiguous. That's why I've excluded the previous blights and said that The Fade Tears might be the things refered by the prophecy.

As for your final statement - I didn't say that someone has to be "shadow or darkness" to breach the prison. I said that because of this ambiguous prison breaching, the shadow and darkness contained in it is now free, be it an entity or a supernatural calamity. 

[Ieldra]

In Exile wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
I doubt it. There are enough players who might find this an interesting outcome (me included) and would complain that it's out of character for their Inquisitor not to agree with the plan.

They could just make it enough of a wide scale genocide that it'd be impossible to agree with without being bonkers, and the precedent of not actually allowing the player to commit genocide is not a very big intrusion into player agency (anymore than preventing the player from starting a genocide at any time is). 

In that case, they might as well make it "kill all non-mages" instead of "turn everyone into a mage". Sort of defeats the purpose.

[DarthSliver]

 Is there a Maker ?
I believe the final boss fight will be in the Black City and there we will learn there never was a Golden City and the entity we must stop has been posing as the Maker taking advantage of human weakness per say.  I also believe the Circle of Magi are demon influenced creations, the purpose being to back the magic user in a corner to get him/her to accept demon help in his/her dreams. 
By the end of the game the Circle of Magi will be a place for magic users to learn magic and they will not be forced to make it a home.

Qunari
We will find out that the Qunari are planning to invade soon after the Veil Tears are dealt with, giving no time for Thedas nations to recover from the Demon onslaught that the Inquistor must stop.

Modifié par DarthSliver, 26 novembre 2013 - 01:20 .