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[Medhia Nox]

What was Liliana's vision?

Oh, yes... "an impenetrable darkness, so intense, so real. And an ungodly noise."

She watched the darkness consume everything. Then, it consumed her.

She equates it to the Blight... but given her extended role, I'm not sure that's really what she experienced.

Could it be the same consuming darkness that Zinovia mentions?

I think it's possible that it was given to her by a spirit. Perhaps the Maker himself - but more likely a Spirit of Faith. It would not be entirely unbelievable that the Spirit of Faith that tags along with Wynne could be responsible.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 26 novembre 2013 - 02:59 .

[Angrywolves]

We will visit Aeonar spelling, the mage prison supposedly at the end of the Imperial road from Ostagar.

[AcidRelic]

I was playing DA2 again and talking to my brother about Sandal. I believe and hope will be shown in DA:I that Sandal is either making Runes that can be used to cast magic, like a magic grenade, or is in fact a Dwarf Mage.

My point, and I may very well be wrong, is that in DA:O he killed the darkspawn with "Enchantment". In DA:2 He killed the darkspawn with "Boom" but the Ogre was "NOT Enchantment"

Enchantment and Boom to me go together and I was thinking of him releasing the power of the rune as magic. The NOT Enchantment is what got me thinking he is a Mage or can really use magic. Though I have heard other theories like "Reborn Old God" and "Flemmeth "altering" him" so who knows what's the truth but I'm hoping for some more clues or an answer.

[DarthSliver]

AcidRelic wrote...

I was playing DA2 again and talking to my brother about Sandal. I believe and hope will be shown in DA:I that Sandal is either making Runes that can be used to cast magic, like a magic grenade, or is in fact a Dwarf Mage.

My point, and I may very well be wrong, is that in DA:O he killed the darkspawn with "Enchantment". In DA:2 He killed the darkspawn with "Boom" but the Ogre was "NOT Enchantment"

Enchantment and Boom to me go together and I was thinking of him releasing the power of the rune as magic. The NOT Enchantment is what got me thinking he is a Mage or can really use magic. Though I have heard other theories like "Reborn Old God" and "Flemmeth "altering" him" so who knows what's the truth but I'm hoping for some more clues or an answer.

wasn't Sandal found in the Deep Roads by Bohan and than Bohan adopted him. Maybe we will actually find out whats so special about Sandal, maybe he will be our mage character for DA:I lol

[Vulpe]

 A theory that covers how the elves might have lost their immortality ( if they were actually immortal to begin with and their stories are not fables ) and an unexpected possible explanation for the strange phenomenon regarding why elven and human/dwarf babies are always human/dwarf.

I believe we'll learn more about this do to the concept arts that show ruins that looked kinda elven.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 28 novembre 2013 - 06:13 .

[Medhia Nox]

- We will come closer to the reality that the elves extended their lives through blood sacrifices of humans to maintain their immortality (like Avernus). The humans rebelled - laying low the city of Arlathan and creating the Tevinter Imperium where they became no better.

[Angrywolves]

don't like nox's theory.
Obviously blood magic can extend lives although Tolkein didn't use it in LOTR.
Going to Arlanthan.. I will predict we go there.

[Vulpe]

Angrywolves wrote...

don't like nox's theory.
Obviously blood magic can extend lives although Tolkein didn't use it in LOTR.
Going to Arlanthan.. I will predict we go there.

Only if we go to Antiva.

[Medhia Nox]

@Angrywolves: Umm.. what did I say about Tolkien?

Having the elves be diminishing victims to an increasingly human world would be Tolkien - not what I said.

[Angrywolves]

elves nox. Elves live long in LOTR without blood magic . shrugs. Don't like your idea that elves got their original long lives from sacrificing humans and blood magic and there's no proof of it.
Still the Black Fox and his companions disappeared looking for Arlathan, so finding it and solving that mystery would be nice.

[Androme]

I'm fairly certain Flemeth is the one behind all this . I also believe Morrigan knows more than she has let the two protagonists so far know, but she is opposed to Flemeth anyways (and thus fighting the ''good'' fight, so to say).

[Angrywolves]

uh no.
Don't believe Flemeth or Morrigan are behind this.

[Ieldra]

(1) I don't believe we'll get any information about whether or not it's true that the elves were once longer-lived and if so, how they lost that. Reason: it's completely irrelevant in the context of what we know about the plot. It's extraneous information unless the main antagonist is an elf who wants to restore the old state of things (why does that remind me of Jon Irenicus?), and there's no indication of that.
(2) I predict that neither Flemeth nor Morrigan will be behind the Veil tears.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2013 - 11:10 .

[Vulpe]

Ieldra2 wrote...

(1) I don't believe we'll get any information about whether or not it's true that the elves were once longer-lived and if so, how they lost that. Reason: it's completely irrelevant in the context of what we know about the plot. It's extraneous information unless the main antagonist is an elf who wants to restore the old state of things (why does that remind me of Jon Irenicus?), and there's no indication of that.
 

I didn't say that we'll receive clarifications. Just extra information and hits towards a possible reason why thing are as they are.

Why would it be irrelevant to the context ? After all, they said that we'll get class/race specific contect that we won't see if we are another race or if we are (or not) a mage.

The dwarf inquisitor is named Cadash. He could learn more about Cadash Thaig, the dwarves of Kal-Sharok and the elven refugies if we think at the name and what they said regarding content that might or not be seen because of our chosen race/class/specialization combo + decisions. What sounds that far fetched when it comes to an elven inquisitor that might learn more about his race that the other non-elven inquisitors ?

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 29 novembre 2013 - 11:47 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I predict a crappy ending, Bioware is on a roll why quit now, they need the hat trick.

[Vulpe]

DinoSteve wrote...

I predict a crappy ending, Bioware is on a roll why quit now, they need the hat trick.

We'll see a huge navy of qunari like dreadnoughts with an unknown symbol painted on them that head towards something that looks like a tropical island, after which the image shifts towards the main ship where there's a robed grey giant  who seems to be the leader and who's eyes start to glow yellow when he's frowning at the end ? 

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 29 novembre 2013 - 12:23 .

[Ieldra]

JulianWellpit wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
(1) I don't believe we'll get any information about whether or not it's true that the elves were once longer-lived and if so, how they lost that. Reason: it's completely irrelevant in the context of what we know about the plot. It's extraneous information unless the main antagonist is an elf who wants to restore the old state of things (why does that remind me of Jon Irenicus?), and there's no indication of that.
 

I didn't say that we'll receive clarifications. Just extra information and hits towards a possible reason why thing are as they are.

Why would it be irrelevant to the context ? After all, they said that we'll get class/race specific contect that we won't see if we are another race or if we are (or not) a mage.

The dwarf inquisitor is named Cadash. He could learn more about Cadash Thaig, the dwarves of Kal-Sharok and the elven refugies if we think at the name and what they said regarding content that might or not be seen because of our chosen race/class/specialization combo + decisions. What sounds that far fetched when it comes to an elven inquisitor that might learn more about his race that the other non-elven inquisitors ?

I get the impression that "elven immortality" will remain the stuff of legend - as opposed to Arlathan, which is, after all, a part of history. I'm sure we'll hear more about the latter eventually, but not about the former. As for being out of context, a full reveal would be out of context, much too important to put into an unrelated plot. Some more additional info, yes, that's possible. I'm not convinced we'll get even that in DAI (as opposed to later), but it's possible.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2013 - 12:38 .

[Reznore57]

Well I wouldn't be surprised with a qunari invasion brewing , I sort of doubt qunari will be a central plot of DAI.Too much going on already.
And we kicked an Arishok ass in DA2 .

I'd say we're going to meet more Tal vashoth and Ben Hassrath.

[Vulpe]

Reznore57 wrote...

Well I wouldn't be surprised with a qunari invasion brewing , I sort of doubt qunari will be a central plot of DAI.Too much going on already.
And we kicked an Arishok ass in DA2 .

I'd say we're going to meet more Tal vashoth and Ben Hassrath.

I agree. DA:I seems to concentrate more on the southern and central part of Thedas. I am almost sure that we won't see places as Antiva, Tevinter et cetera until future installments.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 29 novembre 2013 - 12:51 .

[Hellion Rex]

JulianWellpit wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

Well I wouldn't be surprised with a qunari invasion brewing , I sort of doubt qunari will be a central plot of DAI.Too much going on already.
And we kicked an Arishok ass in DA2 .

I'd say we're going to meet more Tal vashoth and Ben Hassrath.

I agree. DA:I seems to concentrate more on the southern and central part of Thedas. I am almost sure that we won't see places as Antiva, Tevinter et cetera until future installments.

Must you kill my dreams?:crying:

[Vulpe]

 @ eluvianix

Don't listen to what the fox says if you don't want your dreams crushed.

Back to serious mode

I think it's for the better. We already have Ferelden and Orlais and I'm almost certain we'll see a little of Nevarra and maybe some of The Free Marches.

If they added Tevinter and Antiva then they and all the other countries I've mentioned above would get lesser development and insight to their cuture, lands and other things.

This way we get a more healthy dose of Orlais, Ferelden and maybe the the other two while a next installment will leave extra space for a better and substantial development of the other northen places. In the end it will be for the best of Antiva and Tevinter.

[Ieldra]

eluvianix wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

Well I wouldn't be surprised with a qunari invasion brewing , I sort of doubt qunari will be a central plot of DAI.Too much going on already.
And we kicked an Arishok ass in DA2 .

I'd say we're going to meet more Tal vashoth and Ben Hassrath.

I agree. DA:I seems to concentrate more on the southern and central part of Thedas. I am almost sure that we won't see places as Antiva, Tevinter et cetera until future installments.

Must you kill my dreams?:crying:

I had hoped to go to Tevinter as well, but I'd rather have an in-depth visit in a later game than a superficial one in DAI.

As for the qunari invasion - I'd like them as antagonists, since I hate them (the religion, not the race), but I'm afraid Bioware will paint them as too ambiguous again to serve as a main antagonist, and reserve all the badness for evil, evil Tevinter -  which I really wish would get a less one-sided portrayal. I like idea of a high-magic nation, and I resent that the only one in Thedas is permanently portrayed as the most evil. If there is a qunari invasion and I'll be unable to ally with the Imperium against them I'll be pissed.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2013 - 03:11 .

[wright1978]

Ieldra2 wrote...

(2) I predict that neither Flemeth nor Morrigan will be behind the Veil tears.

The obvious assumption is that Flemeth is behind it & Morrigan is trying to stop it. I like you think that that's probably not the case & that there is a third figure who is behind the veil tear.

[Vulpe]

I'd prefer if The Qunari and the rest of Thedas were invaded by an outside force from another continent. It would make things more interesting that having the obvious qunari invasion on Tevinter.

[Afro_Explosion]

That in order to have peace with the qunari, we must give up all sweets especially cookies it is a demand of the qun