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[Oni Changas]

Also, can we ****ing ignore Davey boy and his chronically off-topic bull****?

[Ravensword]

OniTYME wrote...

Also, can we ****ing ignore Davey boy and his chronically off-topic bull****?

No worries. This particular Davidian heroism session is over.

[Darks1d3]

Barquiel wrote...

The citadel coup in the leaked script was much better than the one we got. There was Emily Wong, Terra Firma, Thane's role was at least acceptable, Udina's motivations made sense and that idiotic fixation on Earth was thematized. But I'm glad the Thessia bit was cut. It already looks bad on paper.

And Liara does not have noteworthy plot armor. While she can't die in ME1 and ME2 (she isn't even a squadmember in that game)...that alone means little to nothing when she is not put in situations where you'd expect her to die. 

True enough to that last part. 

And yes, I know this thread has moved to "greener pastures", but I still feel the need to own up to my stupidity. 


Please, continue.

[Linkenski]

oQUETZALCOATLo wrote...
Leviathan wasn't DLC

Really? It was a part of the game originally? How can you be sure it isn't a DLC even if it's in the leaked script?

Modifié par Linkenski, 23 novembre 2013 - 11:33 .

[Ravensword]

knucks360 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

Also, can we ****ing ignore Davey boy and his chronically off-topic bull****?

No worries. This particular Davidian heroism session is over.

I'm a bit out of the loop here,but what is this whole "heroism" people are talking about on the forums?

Well, the best thing to do is to simply know that there is a particular user who's a real blowhard when it comes to his idea of meaningful "heroism" as well as how a story should be written. It's really best that you don't know anymore than that.

[Linkenski]

I have noticed David is persistent, but can't people just... not respond to him when they think he's side-tracking or saying stuff they think is ridiculous. I think the fact that people always play ball is the reason topics always end up locked.

I mean, just looking by how things went at page 5 or 6 people could've just ignored his posts when it started getting out of hand instead of the constant "talking behind David's back" sillyness or head-on inflammatory comments?

Not picking sides because I think it's really stupid but seriously why can't we all just be friends!?

[Hjklop]

Not picking sides because I think it's really stupid but seriously why can't we all just be friends!?

HA!

In this forum?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Linkenski wrote...

I have noticed David is persistent, but can't people just... not respond to him when they think he's side-tracking or saying stuff they think is ridiculous. I think the fact that people always play ball is the reason topics always end up locked.

I mean, just looking by how things went at page 5 or 6 people could've just ignored his posts when it started getting out of hand instead of the constant "talking behind David's back" sillyness or head-on inflammatory comments?

Not picking sides because I think it's really stupid but seriously why can't we all just be friends!?

I'll tell you why.

Because I find it fun.

That's why.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 24 novembre 2013 - 12:14 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

Linkenski wrote...

Not picking sides because I think it's really stupid but seriously why can't we all just be friends!?

If only Shepard was here.

[Ravensword]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

I have noticed David is persistent, but can't people just... not respond to him when they think he's side-tracking or saying stuff they think is ridiculous. I think the fact that people always play ball is the reason topics always end up locked.

I mean, just looking by how things went at page 5 or 6 people could've just ignored his posts when it started getting out of hand instead of the constant "talking behind David's back" sillyness or head-on inflammatory comments?

Not picking sides because I think it's really stupid but seriously why can't we all just be friends!?

I'll tell you why.

Because I find it fun.

That's why.

Ah, I see.

Tell me, Massively, does making fun of forum blowhards make you feel powerful?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

Not picking sides because I think it's really stupid but seriously why can't we all just be friends!?

If only Shepard was here.

My Shepard would laugh and be an ****. It's what he does best.

[Linkenski]

No, Shepard would yell "ENOUGH!" and shove his hands in to seperate you and David and it would be in autodialogue. /lamelol

I kinda just hate how everything that leaked script makes me feel and every headcanon I've ever cooked up leaves me with "What Mass Effect 3 could've been".

As a whole I felt very frustrated with ME3 and not just its ending. It was just not the ME I grew to adore with ME1 and ME2, yes I'm another "ME2 is teh best!" guy :3. I just wish they'd postponed the game to fall 2012 in hindsight so they could've gotten those moments in there without cutting it out and I could've gotten the game and my canon playthrough at a point in time where my studies hadn't made me rush it... but, EA, obviously.

[AlanC9]

Again, how is it EA's fault that Bio can't work within known time constraints?

[oQUETZALCOATLo]

ShadowLordXII wrote...

Take out StarChild and this would've been perfect.

Finally someone agrees. And it would I could always have used more Ashley moments.

[oQUETZALCOATLo]

Ravensword wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

I think it goes without saying that the original script proves that they really were going to blow us the **** away and exceed our expectations. Though unfortunately EA screwed them over which in turn ultimately hurt us all. If only the had another 6 months.

To sum up. Current ME3 is Frankenstein's monster compared to a perfectly living being in ME3's original vision.

Six more months and a competent writing team sans CHud and SuperMac.

 Exactly

[dreamgazer]

OniTYME wrote...

Current ME3 is Frankenstein's monster compared to a perfectly living being in ME3's original vision.

Sounds like the original was a flawed, make-it-work monster in itself.  

The folks saying the "original" version was far superior truly are guilty of the grass-is-greener mentality.

[oQUETZALCOATLo]

Okay, you know what The flat truth is that maybe the game would have had a worse story or ending or it's all just a grass is greener situation, but none of that really matters. Why I actually like the original script more is because of what Mass Effect is all about. CHOICE. There were way more choices and dialogue options in the original. Saving Ashley over Liara, killing Victus, saving Zaeed, feeling like Ashley actually mattered as a character, remembering why I had all those relationships in the first two games and reflecting on them as I finally brought an end to the greatest story I ever experienced, those are all things that I would have liked to choose. Instead we got a game with practically no choices that really effect the ending, and minimized dialogue. You used to get a conversation wheel when talking to practically anyone, and now all squad mates act like ME2 DLC. I wanted to feel like my Shepard mattered, and instead I got Buzz Aldrin telling some bull**** story to a kid with the Catalyst's voice in an attempt to get me to buy DLC. That's why I wanted the original script to happen.

[ShadowLordXII]

AlanC9 wrote...

Again, how is it EA's fault that Bio can't work within known time constraints?

Because EA is notorious for setting unreasonable time constraints that damage the game's quality regardless of the team's talent.

DAII was clearly rushed (though BW will never admit it) because EA wanted to cash in on DAO's popularity. But whether you thought DAII was good or bad, it clearly needed at least half a year of more development to really be able to measure up to DAO. Thanks to EA's meddling, the game is now clearly seen as a decent/good game, but a drastically inferior sequel.

Just look at Ultima 8 and 9, two games that were rushed out by EA and ended up torpedoing the Ultima Series.

In the case of ME3, EA's time constraint forced a lot of stuff from the original script to be cut so that BW could meet the deadline. Especially during the final level and in the ending.

[AlanC9]

My point was that Bio shouldn't have written that script in the first place, since they knew-- or at least should have known -- that they wouldn't have any more time for ME3 than they had had for ME2.

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 novembre 2013 - 02:53 .

[Linkenski]

AlanC9 wrote...

Again, how is it EA's fault that Bio can't work within known time constraints?

Of course many could've made a much better ending than Bioware ultimately did but you have to remember they were working crunch time wiyh everything and didn't have enough time to fully analyze the consistency of the endings to the various choices you could make, so they completely overlooked something major like Geth and Quarians being organics and synthetics coexisting peacefully for instance.

I still believe tge big flaw is that ME had to summarise and conclude everything in 1.5 year which was less than what they had to make a story like ME2, and that game barely focused on accounting for previous choices.

Ao IMO its part bad writing and just part rushedness that ruined ME3 and that IS EA's fault. If that company wasn't so by-the-numbers they'd have known ME3 wasn't just an extra action-y entry in a franchise to be milked and they'd worked to give Bioware the time necessary for making a good piece of art.<_<

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Linkenski wrote...
No, Shepard would yell "ENOUGH!" and shove his hands in to seperate you and David and it would be in autodialogue. /lamelol

I'd love to see him try.

[AlanC9]

I know I asked this upthread, but does anyone have a link to the oldest leaked script? The ones I've seen aren't all that different from what we got.