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[David7204]

How is Citadel 'bittersweet' in the slightest? Everything goes right. Clone dies. Crew gets Normandy back. Big happy ending.

I'm curious what 'bitter' is to you if Citadel is 'bittersweet.' A single friendly character dying?

Modifié par David7204, 24 novembre 2013 - 03:12 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

I feel ya OP.

David7204 wrote...

There can be no great victory and great resolution without great challenge.

>implying a great challenge can't be provided by something that isn't a lovecraftian horror.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 24 novembre 2013 - 03:11 .

[David7204]

They made a game that got lots of perfect scores and sold well. They're justified in being happy overall.

Modifié par David7204, 24 novembre 2013 - 03:14 .

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

They made a game that got lots of perfect scores and sold well. They're justified in being happy.

Their fanbase has also been ravaged and split

[themikefest]

I enjoyed the dlc. I played it with each class.

I also played with all possible squadmates and I played it with only Steve, Sam, Joker, James, T'soni and edi in the dlc.

[David7204]

And you're thinking because of that, they're incapable or unwilling to learn from their mistakes and the reactions of players?

[Br3admax]

David7204 wrote...

And you're thinking because of that, they're incapable or unwilling to learn from their mistakes and the reactions of players?

Wait, did they do good or bad? Pick a side, David. 

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

And you're thinking because of that, they're incapable or unwilling to learn from their mistakes and the reactions of players?

Well if we look at how well recieved Kai Leng and Cerberus was it makes you wonder why Walters made them the focus of the next comic series.

Brooks may have been decently liked but I dobt mnay people were clamoring for her to become Forrest Gump.

[dreamgazer]

StreetMagic wrote...

They seem pretty happy with what they did. At least publicly. I don't know if they want to learn anything from this or not.

I think they're proud of the work they produced, not of "what they did" in terms of partitioning the player base.  But given the rational comments I've seen about anticipation for the next game, it's not as significant of a blow as some would like to think.  People still want more Mass Effect.

From the big details to small stuff in Citadel, it's obvious that they learned a few things, though. Here's hoping Montreal takes that momentum (and some of their RPing ideas from Omega) and run with it. 

[dreamgazer]

Steelcan wrote...

Brooks may have been decently liked but I dobt mnay people were clamoring for her to become Forrest Gump.

Ah! (points)

Perfect.

[Iakus]

David7204 wrote...

They made a game that got lots of perfect scores and sold well. They're justified in being happy overall.

At the cost of their credibility.  Wouldn't call that a won, overall

[David7204]

I'll make sure and make a nice long thread about why class based interrupts with significant story effect are stupid the moment a ME 4 section is opened up. Make sure BioWare has at least some feedback smarter than 'Moar rpg more better.'

Modifié par David7204, 24 novembre 2013 - 03:30 .

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

I'll make sure and make a nice long thread about why class based interrupts with significant story effect are stupid the moment a ME 4 section is opened up. Make sure BioWare has at least feedback smarter than 'Moar rpg more better.'

given how poorly you've been recieved when talking about storytelling by everyone, including the gorram mods, do you really think thats a good idea?

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

I'll make sure and make a nice long thread about why class based interrupts are stupid the moment a ME 4 section is opened up. Make sure BioWare has at least feedback smarter than 'Moar rpg more better.'

Oh, trust me: I'm definitely looking forward to that. 

More of your perspective on RPGs is always a treat. 

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...

I'll make sure and make a nice long thread about why class based interrupts with significant story effect are stupid the moment a ME 4 section is opened up. Make sure BioWare has at least some feedback smarter than 'Moar rpg more better.'

I'll make sure to mock the hell out of it, and laugh when they ignore you.

[David7204]

Oh yes. It's all the better for the shrieking accusations that I hate RPGs. Makes me look good.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

I'll make sure and make a nice long thread about why class based interrupts with significant story effect are stupid the moment a ME 4 section is opened up. Make sure BioWare has at least some feedback smarter than 'Moar rpg more better.'

Well, BW has said that not every bit of feedback is taken into account. They can't please everybody. So hopefully, they'll stick with what the masses asking for 'moar RPG' than yours. They aren't making games to please you David.

[Iakus]

Daemul wrote...

If the entirety of ME3 had been like Citadel the game would have been complete and utter s**t. Citadel is good because it is a self contained DLC which has absolutely no connection to the Reaper/Cerberus story. unlike the other ME3 DLC's.

The whole reason Citadel is fun is because it's not meant to be taken seriously, so we can overlook the fact that it has the worst DLC main plot in the entire series because of that. If you make it the main plot then we have to take it seriously and scrutinise it and I don't think you want to see just how badly BSN and the internet would rip it apart.

If the whole game was like Citadel, yeah it would have been a silly, plontless game.  However, ME3 in general was so depressing, pointless, and hopeless it needed some lighthearted fun.  In fact, there are a lot of people pit thre who use Citadel as their epilogue to the game, imagining it takes place after the war.

That such is felt to be needed is telling about the main plot

[Br3admax]

David7204 wrote...

Oh yes. It's all the better for the shrieking accusations that I hate RPGs. Makes me look good.

I don't think you even know what an RPG is, honestly. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Oh yes. It's all the better for the shrieking accusations that I hate RPGs. Makes me look good.

Well, you seem to despise everything that many others love about them. You believe in taking away the ability of the player to define their character, hence limiting the RP aspect of games. It's really easy to come to this conclusion.

[in it for the lolz]

David7204 wrote...

I'll make sure and make a nice long thread about why class based interrupts with significant story effect are stupid the moment a ME 4 section is opened up. Make sure BioWare has at least some feedback smarter than 'Moar rpg more better.'

Aww, did someone get a boo-boo?

[dreamgazer]

iakus wrote...

Daemul wrote...

If the entirety of ME3 had been like Citadel the game would have been complete and utter s**t. Citadel is good because it is a self contained DLC which has absolutely no connection to the Reaper/Cerberus story. unlike the other ME3 DLC's.

The whole reason Citadel is fun is because it's not meant to be taken seriously, so we can overlook the fact that it has the worst DLC main plot in the entire series because of that. If you make it the main plot then we have to take it seriously and scrutinise it and I don't think you want to see just how badly BSN and the internet would rip it apart.

If the whole game was like Citadel, yeah it would have been a silly, plontless game.  However, ME3 in general was so depressing, pointless, and hopeless it needed some lighthearted fun.  In fact, there are a lot of people pit thre who use Citadel as their epilogue to the game, imagining it takes place after the war.

That such is felt to be needed is telling about the main plot

Shadow Broker can be summed up pretty much in the same way.  Does it say the same things about ME2?