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[dreamgazer]

Criticism =/= Complaining.

You can do one without the other. Far too many people on this forum are guilty of assuming they're one in the same and, therefore, are "protected" underneath said assumption.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 24 novembre 2013 - 07:56 .

[AresKeith]

spirosz wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I definitely wish they would have visualized/utilized war assets better.

Would of been awesome to actually see Rachni and Krogan fighting off swarms of Ravagers, or Jack and her kids fighting - the Geth setting up structures to help utilize the strength of the Quarians, etc.  What could of been, tbh.  That whole ending mission should of been like 10 hours of epic gameplay, haha. 

Lets get some Suicide mission and RTS elements added to that also lol 

[KaiserShep]

Barquiel wrote...

About the Priority:Earth mission itself, I didn't have problem with it. It isn't that much different from other combat-heavy missions and the goodbye scenes with the ME3 squadmates are very good. The confrontation with TIM was handled well for his character...and the final conversation that Anderson and Shepard have is really touching. The scene that follows is, well, not that good. But I like the destroy epilogue and the cheering asari/krogan again.

I agree. The catalyst is really the only thing about the final act of the game that I don't particularly like (partly because it's a child-like entity, which makes it even more annoying), but I get to kill it, so that counts for something.

[Hjklop]

Robosexual wrote...

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Sure, but 2 years is a long time. 2 years is enough time to move on from long-term relationship, even a death, let alone a game you played for a couple of hours.

It's about time we stopped sitting around waiting for people to get off the topic. It's been almost 2 years. And it's a game. Constantly complaining about something for far longer than the amount of time you put into it, especially something like a game, is incredibly unhealthy. Literally the best thing to do is to move on, to actively try to do something more productive.

I don't think it's really our business to tell other people the time it should take them to get over anything, and who are you to say none of them are doing anything productive? 

I disagree. And you consider this productive?

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, and no, I meant doing productive things as well as visiting forums.

[AresKeith]

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Sure, but 2 years is a long time. 2 years is enough time to move on from long-term relationship, even a death, let alone a game you played for a couple of hours.

It's about time we stopped sitting around waiting for people to get off the topic. It's been almost 2 years. And it's a game. Constantly complaining about something for far longer than the amount of time you put into it, especially something like a game, is incredibly unhealthy. Literally the best thing to do is to move on, to actively try to do something more productive.

I don't think it's really our business to tell other people the time it should take them to get over anything, and who are you to say none of them are doing anything productive? 

I disagree. And you consider this productive?

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, and no, I meant doing productive things as well as visiting forums.

He has a hard time grasping that concept

[Clayless]

Omega Torsk wrote...

This, essentially. Nobody is forcing you to hang around here and enlighten "us whiners."

People need to vent. It helps even if you think it doesn't. Believe it or not, Bioware needs to be reminded of how unforgivable this ending was. The party responsible for it (Mac and Casey) refuses to acknowledge it, so we are at an impasse, hoping that it will make them think twice abot how they decide to handle future conclusions in their games.

Even though you seem to have not been affected by it, these endings hurt a lot of people that held these games in a special place in their hearts. It ruined and invalidated not only ME3, but the entire saga. Nobody wants to be saturated with such a rich, exciting experience only to be told at the end that it really didn't matter.

Enlighten? Hopefully no one thinks that being told to move on from something they hate after almost 2 years is enlightening information.

Plus, despite you saying it helps, after 2 years it seems to have done nothing. It's pretty clear that it doesn't help, otherwise they would have moved on. It would have helped with the grief to the extent where they could let it go and stop holding on. It would have helped them do something more productive with their time, instead of doing the same thing constantly for 2 years, for no reason.

[dreamgazer]

AresKeith wrote...

spirosz wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I definitely wish they would have visualized/utilized war assets better.

Would of been awesome to actually see Rachni and Krogan fighting off swarms of Ravagers, or Jack and her kids fighting - the Geth setting up structures to help utilize the strength of the Quarians, etc.  What could of been, tbh.  That whole ending mission should of been like 10 hours of epic gameplay, haha. 

Lets get some Suicide mission and RTS elements added to that also lol 

Best-case scenario, I'd expect something similar to DA:O in terms of choosing forces that swarm around you during the London push.  Bonus points for being able to do so mid-battle. 

Worst-case scenario? Just simple variation in cutscenes to reflect what your assets look like in battle. 

[rekn2]

the whole game seemed rushed. if they had another year i bet it wouldve been great

[AresKeith]

dreamgazer wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

spirosz wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I definitely wish they would have visualized/utilized war assets better.

Would of been awesome to actually see Rachni and Krogan fighting off swarms of Ravagers, or Jack and her kids fighting - the Geth setting up structures to help utilize the strength of the Quarians, etc.  What could of been, tbh.  That whole ending mission should of been like 10 hours of epic gameplay, haha. 

Lets get some Suicide mission and RTS elements added to that also lol 

Best-case scenario, I'd expect something similar to DA:O in terms of choosing forces that swarm around you during the London push.  Bonus points for being able to do so mid-battle. 

Worst-case scenario? Just simple variation in cutscenes to reflect what your assets look like in battle. 

And having the Squadmate you don't choose actually do something

[Clayless]

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I disagree. And you consider this productive?

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, and no, I meant doing productive things as well as visiting forums.

I guess so. And, even if you think they're doing other productive things as well as visiting here (something I wasn't talking about), and you don't consider complaining about something they hate for 2 years productive, you must think that the time the time they spend here could be better spent.

[Malanek]

Marauder shields. It took me about 5 attempts to kill it which was quite a frustrating time for that. It was the change in mechanics that got me and I was convinced you needed to take on some different strategy rather than just shooting it. I didn't like the fact you moved so slowly through the entire sequence.

From a story point of view it is difficult to say. The entire area with the kid felt emotionally flat for me (this is pre extended cut). I had absolutely no problem sacrificing shepard but none of the choices you could make felt convincing or even desirable.

I thought the ending was bad but I still liked the overall game and I still thought the situation it left the game in was interesting for a sequel (at least destroy was).

[Hjklop]

Robosexual wrote...

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I disagree. And you consider this productive?

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, and no, I meant doing productive things as well as visiting forums.

I guess so. And, even if you think they're doing other productive things as well as visiting here (something I wasn't talking about), and you don't consider complaining about something they hate for 2 years productive, you must think that the time the time they spend here could be better spent.

Better spent doing what, it takes what a few minutes to post something, how people spend their leisure time is not up to anyone but themselves. I find it rather odd that you need to criticise people like this, can't you spend your time doing something more productive than arguing with people on this topic?

[Nightwriter]

Robosexual wrote...

Omega Torsk wrote...

This, essentially. Nobody is forcing you to hang around here and enlighten "us whiners."

People need to vent. It helps even if you think it doesn't. Believe it or not, Bioware needs to be reminded of how unforgivable this ending was. The party responsible for it (Mac and Casey) refuses to acknowledge it, so we are at an impasse, hoping that it will make them think twice abot how they decide to handle future conclusions in their games.

Even though you seem to have not been affected by it, these endings hurt a lot of people that held these games in a special place in their hearts. It ruined and invalidated not only ME3, but the entire saga. Nobody wants to be saturated with such a rich, exciting experience only to be told at the end that it really didn't matter.

Enlighten? Hopefully no one thinks that being told to move on from something they hate after almost 2 years is enlightening information.

Plus, despite you saying it helps, after 2 years it seems to have done nothing. It's pretty clear that it doesn't help, otherwise they would have moved on. It would have helped with the grief to the extent where they could let it go and stop holding on. It would have helped them do something more productive with their time, instead of doing the same thing constantly for 2 years, for no reason.

Meh. I would say venting helped me. Much more aloof now. Also everything seems much funnier.

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Modifié par Nightwriter, 24 novembre 2013 - 08:26 .

[Clayless]

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I guess so. And, even if you think they're doing other productive things as well as visiting here (something I wasn't talking about), and you don't consider complaining about something they hate for 2 years productive, you must think that the time the time they spend here could be better spent.

Better spent doing what, it takes what a few minutes to post something, how people spend their leisure time is not up to anyone but themselves. I find it rather odd that you need to criticise people like this, can't you spend your time doing something more productive than arguing with people on this topic?

Probably takes more than a few minutes, browsing and all that, after 2 years that adds up. It's up to them sure, just like how it's up to me to point up how incredibly unhealthy it is and how they should probably be doing something more productive instead.

You find it odd that I need to criticise people who spend 2 years complaining about something they hate, constantly being negative and trying to ruin everything for those of us that enjoy it, so could you think of a solution that would solve both of our problems?

Modifié par Robosexual, 24 novembre 2013 - 08:27 .

[Hjklop]

Robosexual wrote...

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I guess so. And, even if you think they're doing other productive things as well as visiting here (something I wasn't talking about), and you don't consider complaining about something they hate for 2 years productive, you must think that the time the time they spend here could be better spent.

Better spent doing what, it takes what a few minutes to post something, how people spend their leisure time is not up to anyone but themselves. I find it rather odd that you need to criticise people like this, can't you spend your time doing something more productive than arguing with people on this topic?

Probably takes more than a few minutes, browsing and all that, after 2 years that adds up. It's up to them sure, just like how it's up to me to point up how incredibly unhealthy it is and how they should probably be doing something more productive instead.

You find it odd that I need to criticise people who spend 2 years complaining about something they hate, constantly being negative and trying to ruin everything for those of us that enjoy it, so could you think of a solution that would solve both of our problems?

How about you go and do something productive, meaning you'll leave everyone here alone, and then to each other you'll both be be out of sight out of mind. You'll also be practising what you preatch and can lead by example.

[AresKeith]

Robosexual wrote...

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I guess so. And, even if you think they're doing other productive things as well as visiting here (something I wasn't talking about), and you don't consider complaining about something they hate for 2 years productive, you must think that the time the time they spend here could be better spent.

Better spent doing what, it takes what a few minutes to post something, how people spend their leisure time is not up to anyone but themselves. I find it rather odd that you need to criticise people like this, can't you spend your time doing something more productive than arguing with people on this topic?

Probably takes more than a few minutes, browsing and all that, after 2 years that adds up. It's up to them sure, just like how it's up to me to point up how incredibly unhealthy it is and how they should probably be doing something more productive instead.

You find it odd that I need to criticise people who spend 2 years complaining about something they hate, constantly being negative and trying to ruin everything for those of us that enjoy it, so could you think of a solution that would solve both of our problems?

Just admit that you like complaining yourself 

[GreyLycanTrope]

He likes complaining about other posters opinions though. Serious business.

[Br3admax]

I mean I find it kind of dumb, but I'm not going to tell them to stop. If they wanted to or were going to, they would have by now.

[in it for the lolz]

Ah, the old "complaining about the complaining about the ending" thing. How I miss thee!

[DeltaTimo]

Robosexual wrote...

It never.

If it did I would have gotten over it well over a year ago and done something more productive with my time, let alone almost 2 years after the game came out

Almost. Two. Years.

Wow. I feel the same! 

[Clayless]

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Probably takes more than a few minutes, browsing and all that, after 2 years that adds up. It's up to them sure, just like how it's up to me to point up how incredibly unhealthy it is and how they should probably be doing something more productive instead.

You find it odd that I need to criticise people who spend 2 years complaining about something they hate, constantly being negative and trying to ruin everything for those of us that enjoy it, so could you think of a solution that would solve both of our problems?

How about you go and do something productive, meaning you'll leave everyone here alone, and then to each other you'll both be be out of sight out of mind. You'll also be practising what you preatch and can lead by example.

So one side enjoys something, but hates the people that complain about it, constantly, day after day, week after week, month after month, for 2 years, and tells them they need to move on and do something more productive with their time, so those that enjoy it can discuss something they love.

The other side hates something, and complain about it, day after day, week after week, month after month, for 2 years.

And your solution is for those that love it to leave?

Here's a better solution. Those that hate it should let go. Should move on. Should do something more productive with their time. That way both sides win. One side gets to discuss the thing they love, to feel excited, to make theories. The other side gets to be free of the thing they hate, get the chance to do something productive and positive instead. No one has to put up with constant, constant complaining, for years. Everyone wins.

Modifié par Robosexual, 24 novembre 2013 - 08:53 .

[Iakus]

Robosexual wrote...

Enlighten? Hopefully no one thinks that being told to move on from something they hate after almost 2 years is enlightening information.

Plus, despite you saying it helps, after 2 years it seems to have done nothing. It's pretty clear that it doesn't help, otherwise they would have moved on. It would have helped with the grief to the extent where they could let it go and stop holding on. It would have helped them do something more productive with their time, instead of doing the same thing constantly for 2 years, for no reason.

Tell me, what is the statute of limitations on dissatisfaction?  At what point are we supposed to either start liking it or GTFO?  Or did we pass that point already?

[Hjklop]

Robosexual wrote...

TheJJBL wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Probably takes more than a few minutes, browsing and all that, after 2 years that adds up. It's up to them sure, just like how it's up to me to point up how incredibly unhealthy it is and how they should probably be doing something more productive instead.

You find it odd that I need to criticise people who spend 2 years complaining about something they hate, constantly being negative and trying to ruin everything for those of us that enjoy it, so could you think of a solution that would solve both of our problems?

How about you go and do something productive, meaning you'll leave everyone here alone, and then to each other you'll both be be out of sight out of mind. You'll also be practising what you preatch and can lead by example.

So one side enjoys something, but hates the people that complain about it, constantly, day after day, week after week, month after month, for 2 years, and tells them they need to move on and do something more productive with their time, so those that enjoy it can discuss something they love.

The other side hates something, and complain about it, day after day, week after week, month after month, for 2 years.

And your solution is for those that love it to leave?

Here's a better solution. Those that hate it should let go. Should move on. Should do something more productive with their time. That way both sides win. One side gets to discuss the thing they love, to feel excited, to make theories. The other side gets to be free of the thing they hate, get the chance to do something productive and positive instead. No one has to put up with constant, constant complaining, for years. Everyone wins.

Alternativly if you don't want to do anything productive either, you could just not enter topics that outright state that they dislike the ending. I'd understand if you came into a thread about something else and people kept derailing it to talk about how much they disliked the ending, or if it was a thread about how much you liked the ending and people kept derailing it with how much they hated it. But this is not either of these situations, you are simply complaining about complaining, and arguing that others need to go be productive while you yourself are doing nothing productive. 

All a bit pointless no?