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[toastmasta]

Hello all, been awhile since I've been here, but I have returned.

Anyway I was reading in another post that people tend to spec there SI for power damage rather than raw damage.  The reasoning is the damage is not a global % and only adds a flat amount of damage to your sniper shot.  Whereas the actual sniper shot will one hit if you shield drain maxed out.  Seemed a little confusing since maxing out power damage only raised the ED damage by 100 points or so.  Wouldn't a 20% headshot bonus + 17.5 % damage boost be more beneficial, or am I missing something here. 

I'm guessing if using the Widow, the extra damage won't make much of a difference, but how will the extra ED damage make a difference either?

[Wizard of Ox]

I always specced him for weapon damage, he's an infiltrator after all and his powers haven't that much raw damage to buff.

Modifié par KroGan_eRRanT, 24 novembre 2013 - 09:08 .

[InstaShark]

Weapon damage. Dat Javelin X.

[VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS]

Weapon damage.

[toastmasta]

http://social.biowar...ndex/11725335/1

Found what I had read earlier.

- headshot bonus and weapon bonus in salarian operative are not global multipliers.
Sniper damage in tactical cloak gives you 1.4x to final damage.
20% headshot bonus is useless because anything you headshot other than geth primes will die or lose all their shields anyways.
10% weapon damage is additive, not global, so you'll get less than 4% to your final damage.
Which, is for all intents and purposes, useless. It will not affect the number of shots you will use to kill any mob.
you MIGHT save 1 bullet on an atlas, but maybe not because 4% is so little.

[InstaShark]

toastmasta wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11725335/1

Found what I had read earlier.

- headshot bonus and weapon bonus in salarian operative are not global multipliers.
Sniper damage in tactical cloak gives you 1.4x to final damage.
20% headshot bonus is useless because anything you headshot other than geth primes will die or lose all their shields anyways.
10% weapon damage is additive, not global, so you'll get less than 4% to your final damage.
Which, is for all intents and purposes, useless. It will not affect the number of shots you will use to kill any mob.
you MIGHT save 1 bullet on an atlas, but maybe not because 4% is so little.

But





Javelin

[VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS]

Do what you want, but Headshot damage and Weapon Damage are the way to go IMO, and i'm sure most people will tell you as much.

[toastmasta]

But even still, don't see how ED damage could outweigh that % regardless. So I will just stick to damage.

And yeah I've always gone the damage route, just thought with my time away, there might be tricks or tips I didn't know before.  Prox Mine is still useless right?

Modifié par toastmasta, 24 novembre 2013 - 09:22 .

[toastmasta]

InstaShark wrote...

toastmasta wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11725335/1

Found what I had read earlier.

- headshot bonus and weapon bonus in salarian operative are not global multipliers.
Sniper damage in tactical cloak gives you 1.4x to final damage.
20% headshot bonus is useless because anything you headshot other than geth primes will die or lose all their shields anyways.
10% weapon damage is additive, not global, so you'll get less than 4% to your final damage.
Which, is for all intents and purposes, useless. It will not affect the number of shots you will use to kill any mob.
you MIGHT save 1 bullet on an atlas, but maybe not because 4% is so little.

But





Javelin

Would you take a Javelin I over a Widow X?  Always had a hard time with the Jav, seemed any lag would make my shot miss.

[InstaShark]

toastmasta wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

toastmasta wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11725335/1

Found what I had read earlier.

- headshot bonus and weapon bonus in salarian operative are not global multipliers.
Sniper damage in tactical cloak gives you 1.4x to final damage.
20% headshot bonus is useless because anything you headshot other than geth primes will die or lose all their shields anyways.
10% weapon damage is additive, not global, so you'll get less than 4% to your final damage.
Which, is for all intents and purposes, useless. It will not affect the number of shots you will use to kill any mob.
you MIGHT save 1 bullet on an atlas, but maybe not because 4% is so little.

But





Javelin

Would you take a Javelin I over a Widow X?  Always had a hard time with the Jav, seemed any lag would make my shot miss.

If you were to ask me that a year or so from now, I would say yes.

However, I know better, so no. But just the same, the Widow would benefit more from weapon damage rather than just raw power damage for ED. Even then, I think the rule of thumb for sniper rifles is: Always use Phasic Rounds. Dat shield gate.

EDIT: IIRC correctly, ED doesn't always fully drain shields on mooks even with passives in power damage (unless you use equipment/gear to boost tech damage).

Modifié par InstaShark, 24 novembre 2013 - 09:30 .

[Bladedrummer]

Weapon damage, and if you're going for snipers Widow, Black Widow, Javelin, w/e.

Edit: CLAYMORE 

Modifié par Bladedrummer, 24 novembre 2013 - 09:28 .

[InstaShark]

Bladedrummer wrote...

Weapon damage, and if you're going for snipers Widow, Black Widow, Javelin, w/e.

Edit: CRUSADER 

Fixed. :3

[toastmasta]

Thanks for the input guys. Gonna respec back to full damage.

EDIT:  Never used the Crusader with Infiltrator class.  I really like it on my Destroyer.

Another question then.  What's your guy's secondary weapon choice to compliment the sniper?  Or do you skip it and just maintain the highest power recharge rate?

Been using the Hurricane, but rarely ever use it.

Modifié par toastmasta, 24 novembre 2013 - 10:00 .

[InstaShark]

toastmasta wrote...

Thanks for the input guys. Gonna respec back to full damage.

EDIT:  Never used the Crusader with Infiltrator class.  I really like it on my Destroyer.

Another question then.  What's your guy's secondary weapon choice to compliment the sniper?  Or do you skip it and just maintain the highest power recharge rate?

Been using the Hurricane, but rarely ever use it.

Talon for CQB. It's just too good.

That, or Scorpion for lulz

[VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS]

Also, Proxy Mine isn't useless. If you don't have 5 ranks in Proxy Mine (Damage Taken on rank 5) then please go commit sudoku.

[Bladedrummer]

VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS wrote...

Also, Proxy Mine isn't useless. If you don't have 5 ranks in Proxy Mine (Damage Taken on rank 5) then please go commit sudoku.

I suppose you meant seppuku ''
Although, sudoku is less gory.

Anyhow, I agree. Rank 5 proxy mine is godly.

Modifié par Bladedrummer, 24 novembre 2013 - 10:05 .

[Aquaman 40oz]

I tend to go with power damage on the Salarian because I generally cloak, strip shields/proxy mine, then shoot. The idea is to eliminate the shield gate before the gunshot, and use a sniper rifle that does enough damage I don't need to worry about a second shot - another proxy mine/ED at most to kill the mook. I want the strongest ED I can get, so power damage is preferred.

[VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS]

Bladedrummer wrote...

VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS wrote...

Also, Proxy Mine isn't useless. If you don't have 5 ranks in Proxy Mine (Damage Taken on rank 5) then please go commit sudoku.

I suppose you meant seppuku ''
Although, sudoku is less gory.

Anyhow, I agree. Rank 5 proxy mine is godly.

I meant sudoku. 

[ndw542]

Prox Mine, useless? Who the hell ever thought that?

[LemurFromTheId]

toastmasta wrote...

20% headshot bonus is useless because anything you headshot other than geth primes will die or lose all their shields anyways.

What about Ravagers, Brutes, Banshees, Scions, Praetorians...?

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Bladedrummer wrote...

VolusVolusVolusVolusVOLUSVOLUSVOLUS wrote...

Also, Proxy Mine isn't useless. If you don't have 5 ranks in Proxy Mine (Damage Taken on rank 5) then please go commit sudoku.

I suppose you meant seppuku ''
Although, sudoku is less gory.

Anyhow, I agree. Rank 5 proxy mine is godly.

I have nothing to add that hasn't already been covered.

[OniGanon]

If you're using a Valiant X, Krysae X, Black Widow, Widow or Javelin, you can kill most undefended Gold infantry in a single body shot (Valiant requires Warp/AP IV to do this).

That's why some people recommend taking Power Damage. When you're already killing things in one shot, adding more gun damage doesn't do a whole lot, so you're better off maximising your ability to strip defenses in that case.

Depending your exact setup, taking the Power evos can open up OHKs on the Hunter, Phantom and Cerberus Turret without relying on Disruptor/Phasic.

Of course if you're just going to use a Javelin with Phasic Ammo, you don't really need a powerful Energy Drain. But then if you're not going to take advantage of Energy Drain, you may as well not use the Salarian Infiltrator at all.

[iOnlySignIn]

There is only one Infiltrator on which you should even consider spending a few points in passives for Power Damage.

That is the Infiltrator with Recon Mine.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 25 novembre 2013 - 12:49 .

[InstaShark]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

There is only one Infiltrator on which you should even consider spending a few points in passives for Power Damage.

That is the Infiltrator with Recon Mine.

Asari Huntress says hi.

[iOnlySignIn]

InstaShark wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

There is only one Infiltrator on which you should even consider spending a few points in passives for Power Damage.

That is the Infiltrator with Recon Mine.

Asari Huntress says hi.

Not really, no.

The Power Damage boost you get from her Passive is negligible compared to what you get from her Cloak, which means the ttk reduction you get from Power Damage Passives is also negligible.

However, the Weapon Damage you get from her Passive can mean the difference between OSK Ravager on Platinum and not OSK. Reason: Warp Ammo.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 25 novembre 2013 - 12:54 .