sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
I will bet that whatever ending you chose, the reapers are not going to be in the galaxy. There may be a 1 minute cutscene showing the results of your ending choice, and no matter what you chose it will have little or no impact on the new game.
Imagine the scenario of a talk radio show: the host says he’s conducting a poll, and listeners can call-in to express their opinion. At the end of the show, the host tallies up the "results," and concludes that the American people overwhelmingly agree with his position. You can see the problem here – the radio host is only hearing from people that listen to the show, and care enough about a subject to call in and express an opinion…the respondents "self-select," and everyone who doesn’t listen to the show or doesn’t care enough to call in are left out of the process. This is a picture-perfect definition of bias!
Posting a survey on your website without regard to who can or cannot fill it out is essentially the same thing as the straw poll by the radio host. You may get somewhat of a "mixed bag" of respondents for your sample (if you're lucky), and you may get results in that show mass support of an idea, product or service.
If your target audience is small, this may be okay for you...but you certainly don’t have a representative sample from which you can accurately generalize results to a larger population, if that is a goal in your research. Because you have no control over who does or doesn’t complete the online questionnaire, you risk bias in the validity and reliability of your results.
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Morocco Mole wrote...
I'm against a prequel because, even ignoring how 90% of all prequels just introduce weird plotholes and have to shoehorn previous characters so you can go "its that guy from the last installment!" I consider it a copout that won't even solve the "ending situation" which will still be the elephant in the room. Because the people who were "crushed" by the endings will still not shut up about it. Only now they will whine that the "shadow of the ending is hanging over it"
Its also admitting defeat.
Go for a sequel, **** the whiny fans who will only ever whine about their 'choices" because continually saying there is "no canon" long after the trilogy is over is just going to keep hampering both the choice of the players and the writing of the writers.
KaiserShep wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
I'm against a prequel because, even ignoring how 90% of all prequels just introduce weird plotholes and have to shoehorn previous characters so you can go "its that guy from the last installment!" I consider it a copout that won't even solve the "ending situation" which will still be the elephant in the room. Because the people who were "crushed" by the endings will still not shut up about it. Only now they will whine that the "shadow of the ending is hanging over it"
Its also admitting defeat.
Go for a sequel, **** the whiny fans who will only ever whine about their 'choices" because continually saying there is "no canon" long after the trilogy is over is just going to keep hampering both the choice of the players and the writing of the writers.
I agree wholeheartedly. My biggest gripe with the prequel idea also is that it allows BioWare to just reset all of the major social issues that span the galaxy. The geth are back to being nothing but enemies, the quarians are nomads again, the krogan have the genophage and hate the salarians and turians, batarians are back to just being bitter slavers, etc.. With all of those things being resolved, going back would be annoying.
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Morocco Mole wrote...
Control or Destroy would be the best possible choices for a sequel, with control edging out since it preserves almost everything enjoyable about the series.
You can write off the Shepard!Reapers as vanishing into the far reaches of space to repair more relays or whatever to remove them from the scene
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Morocco Mole wrote...
You can't repair a dead AI.
Modifié par Eryri, 29 novembre 2013 - 12:38 .
They can be handy for finding out what a hardcore segment of the fanbase thinks, I suppose. Sort of a gut check - throw out a question and filter through the responses, the same way they run review/feedback threads on the BSN.
I don't know why Bioware runs those sort of polls, or how the "results" are treated internally (at a guess, they're used to gauge feedback about decisions that have already been made). It's when people outside Bioware try to give these polls *undue* legitimacy that it becomes a problem. Using the results is fine, as long as it's always kept in mind how limited they are, and how small + unrepresentative the pool of replies are compared to the larger fanbase.
(Though obviously, if anyone in Bioware was actually using questions on Twitter as a substitute for market research or whatever, that would be weird.)
iOnlySignIn wrote...
Yep.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
I will bet that whatever ending you chose, the reapers are not going to be in the galaxy. There may be a 1 minute cutscene showing the results of your ending choice, and no matter what you chose it will have little or no impact on the new game.
Destroy - as is.
Control - Shepard retreats to Dark Space with Reapers.
Synthesis - slight texture change to all in game models.
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Morocco Mole wrote...
10,000 years would be something I'd hardly call Mass Effect anymore.
People here have a funny way of overlooking that we're actually a tiny, deeply *unusual* segment of the playerbase, and that a typical Mass Effect player is probably nothing like a typical BSN Mass Effect fan, let alone a typical BSN Mass Effect fan who is still on the forum years before the next game launch.crimzontearz wrote...
Lovely
The Grey Nayr wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
10,000 years would be something I'd hardly call Mass Effect anymore.
Why? Major events in Mass Effect's universe usually take 50,000 years to start happening again.
The game will still have humans, turians, salarians, quarians(Maybe suitless), asari, krogan, vorcha, batarians, volus, elcor, hanar, and drell.
And you'll still have the Citadel(which was shown restored in Extended Cut Destroy, never damaged in control, and implied to be rebuilt with everything else in synthesis) and mass relays
How is that not Mass Effect? Only difference is no Shep and in the right situations, no Reapers.
.People here have a funny way of overlooking that we're actually a tiny, deeply *unusual* segment of the playerbase, and that a typical Mass Effect player is probably nothing like a typical BSN Mass Effect fan, let alone a typical BSN Mass Effect fan who is still on the forum years before the next game launch.
I mean, only 42% of Mass Effect 3 players even finished it.
It can be tempting to argue that deep engagement with the series should be rewarded with "fans' voices being heard", but I think expecting Bioware to listen wholly to the BSN is going to end in disappointment. We're not irrelevant, but I think in many cases BSN fans overestimate how much influence they have (or should have).
crimzontearz wrote...
I am not a fan of being asked to provide feedback about a product when that feedback is going to be pointless (Bioware did that in the past, helllooooooo magic spreadsheets)
KaiserShep wrote...
The Grey Nayr wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
10,000 years would be something I'd hardly call Mass Effect anymore.
Why? Major events in Mass Effect's universe usually take 50,000 years to start happening again.
The game will still have humans, turians, salarians, quarians(Maybe suitless), asari, krogan, vorcha, batarians, volus, elcor, hanar, and drell.
And you'll still have the Citadel(which was shown restored in Extended Cut Destroy, never damaged in control, and implied to be rebuilt with everything else in synthesis) and mass relays
How is that not Mass Effect? Only difference is no Shep and in the right situations, no Reapers.
I can't help but think that the technology would need to look way more advanced than what we see in the trilogy, because 10K years is quite long time for development. Also, you'd think that the mass relays would start to come closer and closer to obsolescence as spacefaring species keep developing better and better spacecraft.
Eryri wrote...
If ME was a rigorously consistent, hard-sci-fi world, I would agree with you, but this is a universe where the protagonist himself was resurrected from "meat and tubes". Where an organic mind can be copied into Reapers, and a wave of green light can implant circuitry into maple trees.
Never underestimate the power of handwavium. Particularly when destroy is the most popular ending, coupled with EDI and the Geth being reasonably well liked characters.
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People here have a funny way of overlooking that we're actually a tiny, deeply *unusual* segment of the playerbase, and that a typical Mass Effect player is probably nothing like a typical BSN Mass Ecrimzontearz wrote...
Lovely
Modifié par Malchat, 29 novembre 2013 - 04:03 .
Indeed. It's not really feedback, it's just "Smile, and nod until they go away"
Chashan wrote...
True, yet that wouldn't be the only time in fiction that technology 'stagnates' for a lengthy period of time. Look at Warhammer 40k, where there haven't been any significant quantum leaps in tech for the Imperium of Man in as long a time (due to its very technophobic attitude, true, but still)..
The Grey Nayr wrote...
How is that not Mass Effect? Only difference is no Shep and in the right situations, no Reapers.
ElitePinecone wrote...
It would either confuse the heck out of the player (if the game realistically featured a society of humans that we can't understand) or otherwise make a completely ridiculous future where everyone still speaks English 10,000 years from now and human society doesn't change over thousands of years.
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