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[crimzontearz]

He is referring to the themes he highlighted for ME3, victory through sacrifice, survival through submission

[Mcfly616]

"Survival through submission"? Lol



Riiiiight....

[crimzontearz]

Don't look at me McFly, I never said I agree with it I am merely explaining

[AlanC9]

crimzontearz wrote...

He is referring to the themes he highlighted for ME3, victory through sacrifice, survival through submission

Well, survival by submission is just nonsense, so I was not paying attention there.

How is victory through sacrifice rendered meaningless by canonizing Destroy?

[Sovereign330]

I just hope you they don't forbid you from playing as certain races.

[Iakus]

crimzontearz wrote...

That's it tho Morocco, you say they learned their lesson (some interviews point out to the opposite) but you have no concrete proof they did and until that I put VERY little beneath them. Sure, there was a time I would have DEFINITELY put this beneath them, but that time has past

Also, the ending sucked, their handling of it sucked, deal with it. It's not about ****ing, it's about not letting them forget it (which Bioware is good at). They can only make amends about it (as changing it would be messing with dat art) now but it appears they can't/won't/would not matter. So, better off to start with a clean slate and forget the whole faux pas.

This firum seriously needs a thumbs-up emote.

[LisuPL]

iakus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

That's it tho Morocco, you say they learned their lesson (some interviews point out to the opposite) but you have no concrete proof they did and until that I put VERY little beneath them. Sure, there was a time I would have DEFINITELY put this beneath them, but that time has past

Also, the ending sucked, their handling of it sucked, deal with it. It's not about ****ing, it's about not letting them forget it (which Bioware is good at). They can only make amends about it (as changing it would be messing with dat art) now but it appears they can't/won't/would not matter. So, better off to start with a clean slate and forget the whole faux pas.

This firum seriously needs a thumbs-up emote.

When it comes to the ending of ME3 and it's general reception in the community, I believe BioWare really noticed what people liked/didn't like.

I am calm about the next game and I even hope for a outstanding outro in ME"4" that will serve as a recuperation for testicle-tightened ME3 haters.



So relax ladies and let BioWare do it's magic while it's stepmother EA isn't watching.

Modifié par LisuPL, 30 novembre 2013 - 05:20 .

[crimzontearz]

You keep thinking about them as separate entities, they are not.

Also, what makes you think they learned? The citadel DLC?

[SilJeff]

Well, ths Citadel DLC was great and well recieved

[Iakus]

LisuPL wrote...

When it comes to the ending of ME3 and it's general reception in the community, I believe BioWare really noticed what people liked/didn't like.

I am calm about the next game and I even hope for a outstanding outro in ME"4" that will serve as a recuperation for testicle-tightened ME3 haters.



So relax ladies and let BioWare do it's magic while it's stepmother EA isn't watching.

EC pretty clearly demonstrates they either didn't understand or didn't care what people didn't like.

This interview pretty much confirms that "Your opinion matters only if you agree with us"  (Guess what?  My Shepard isn't and never was Walter White!)

So yeah, I'm pessisitic

[crimzontearz]

Oh wait NM


and yeah, you are entitled to an opinion, as long as it coincides with ours

[Linkenski]

iakus wrote...

LisuPL wrote...

When it comes to the ending of ME3 and it's general reception in the community, I believe BioWare really noticed what people liked/didn't like.

I am calm about the next game and I even hope for a outstanding outro in ME"4" that will serve as a recuperation for testicle-tightened ME3 haters.



So relax ladies and let BioWare do it's magic while it's stepmother EA isn't watching.

EC pretty clearly demonstrates they either didn't understand or didn't care what people didn't like.

This interview pretty much confirms that "Your opinion matters only if you agree with us"  (Guess what?  My Shepard isn't and never was Walter White!)

So yeah, I'm pessisitic

Obviously it was a bad comparison, but what I hate more is how Walters doesn't understand that people are not whining because Shepard dies almost no matter what, but because the OTHER stuff in the endings violate/cheapens lore and just ruins the experience. I just read through Final Hours when I saw I still had it on my PC and it's just so obvious Casey nor Mac knew what the hell they had just written with the ending. Casey sitting there, claiming that Mass Effect 3 is about the struggle between organics and synthetics. I hope for his sake that he didn't actually think that was deep.

[crimzontearz]

Obviously it was a bad comparison, but what I hate more is how Walters doesn't understand that people are not whining because Shepard dies almost no matter what, but because the OTHER stuff in the endings violate/cheapens lore and just ruins the experience. I just read through Final Hours when I saw I still had it on my PC and it's just so obvious Casey nor Mac knew what the hell they had just written with the ending. Casey sitting there, claiming that Mass Effect 3 is about the struggle between organics and synthetics. I hope for his sake that he didn't actually think that was deep.

Survival + reunion scene would have put me in the mood to overlook most of the awful writing tho

Also, yes does....he is an artist

[Iakus]

KaiserShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

And that is exactly why I never started watching Spartacus or Breaking bad

Never watched Spartacus, but Breaking Bad is a great show.

It doesn't matter if the show is good or bad.  What matters isthe characters on these shows aren't ours.  We don't get a say in what they do, how they react, or in their ultimnate fate.  We are passive observers, not active participants. Not like in a game that celebrates player agency (supposedly.)

A game is not a tv show.  It is not a movie.  And it certainly isn't a comic book.  Until they stop trying to be these things, I don't think they hqave learned anything,

[PinkysPain]

AlanC9 wrote...
Well, survival by submission is just nonsense

Enough people honestly thought differently for it to get through to McCasey and make them decide to troll us with a refuse ending.

How is victory through sacrifice rendered meaningless by canonizing Destroy?

I said choice/sacrifice ... the sacrifice of the geth will be shown as just an arbitrary bit thrown in to make the best (canon) choice less appealing. As for how canonizing makes the choice in and of itself meaningless, well because.

[Iakus]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Ultimately, the characters do not belong to you. They are bioware's.

#ItsYourShepard

[crimzontearz]

You mean like MP was not needed for all endings? LOL

[PinkysPain]

crimzontearz wrote...
Survival + reunion scene would have put me in the mood to overlook most of the awful writing tho

I hate how they keep pretending it's just Shepard's death which was the problem ... and not the combination with the starchild sucking all illusion of agency out of the game.

Either make Shepard a real winner, who dies to really save the universe for all his friends. Or let him get a partial victory and survive to make blue babies. Having him die AND be a tool, that's not what I wanted, not within the realm of expectations either after ME1 and ME2 (which promised a true victory AND blue babies, but I guess a true happy ending is too much to bear for the grim derp generation).

Modifié par PinkysPain, 30 novembre 2013 - 09:17 .

[crimzontearz]

Uh....ART? You know....it has to be dark depressing and make reflect on the meaningless nature if life or some such crap

[crimzontearz]

And the delusions of artistdom of Mac and Walters

[Sebby]

iakus wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Ultimately, the characters do not belong to you. They are bioware's.

#ItsYourShepard

Shepard is Bioware's character and a poor one at that.

Modifié par Seboist, 30 novembre 2013 - 09:26 .

[crimzontearz]

Mac and Casey....goddamn I can't even edit on these forums