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Morocco Mole wrote...

Your ignoring my point. Character discussion threads can be interesting, and should be. But they cannot be interesting when they are all weird hugboxes that outright discourage any character analyzation in favor of gushing about them. Which was a major issue in the section.

Not to mention having threads that run for hundreds of pages get weird and cliquey, even when they aren't about characters.

If you want to discuss a character, make a thread in this section.


I'm not ignoring your point, you mentioned it hundred times in different threads. The main problem was Bioware moderators not doing their job, you know, moderating. Bans and deleting bad posts amazingly help to clear atmosphere.

And your claim that "romance forums are main source of toxic atmosphere" is laughable. Bioware making games worse than before like DA2 & ME3 is the reason of toxicity. There was vibrant, positive, optimistic atmosphere on BSN after DA:O and ME2, when Bioware had high standards. Oh, and actually moderated romance and character forums.  

Modifié par Star fury, 26 novembre 2013 - 05:39 .


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I'm not ignoring your point, you mentioned it hundred times in different threads. The main problem was Bioware moderators not doing their job, you know, moderating. Bans and deleting bad posts amazingly help to clear atmosphere.


The one thing I can agree with the moderation of BSN is that the romance sections needed to go.

And your claim that "romance forums are main source of toxic atmosphere" is laughable. Bioware making games worse than before like DA2 & ME3 is the reason of toxicity. There was vibrant, positive, optimistic atmosphere on BSN after DA:O and ME2. When Bioware held it's high standards. Oh, and actually moderated romance and charatcer forums.


lol. Are you for real? Bioware's moderation has never been good on BSN. Even in the ME2 days the large romance threads were ridiculed on other forums and were probably a constant headache for the few mods that did their job.

Modifié par Morocco Mole, 26 novembre 2013 - 05:43 .


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Morocco Mole wrote...

lol. Are you for real? Bioware's moderation has never been good on BSN. Even in the ME2 days the large romance threads were ridiculed on other forums and were probably a constant headache for the few mods that did their job.


Where did I write that "Bioware's moderation has been good"? Care to provide me with a quote?

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Oh, and actually moderated romance and charatcer forums.



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Problem with reading comprehension? Where did I write that "Bioware's moderation has been good"? #2.

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Nope. BioWare learned their lesson. Easier on everyone if they leave that box of trouble unopened.

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Star fury wrote...

Problem with reading comprehension? Where did I write that "Bioware's moderation has been good"? #2.


By implying they actually moderated

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Problem with reading comprehension? Where did I write that "Bioware's moderation has been good"? #2.


By implying they actually moderated


I wrote "moderated" in case you didn't notice. I never wrote "good" or bad, it was all your fantasies.Even you write about "few mods that did their job". You even contradict yourself.

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Star fury wrote...

Problem with reading comprehension? Where did I write that "Bioware's moderation has been good"? #2.


Frankly, I don't think its in anyway reasonable to expect Bioware to waste their time moderating the kind of discussions we saw in those horrifyingly creepy romance threads. FWIW, I'm actually positive about there being a dedicated romance and discussion board (if only to keep that faff confined to a single area) - just not those who insist on turning it into a cesspool. You know who you are!

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I wrote "moderated" in case you
didn't notice. I never wrote "good" or bad, it was all your
fantasies.Even you write about "few mods that did their job". You even
contradict yourself.


Your entire post implies that the forums were somehow better back then, when they really weren't, moderation included. The only difference between now and then is that Bioware felt they didn't need to moderate their forums as much because the community was more in fanboy mode at the time.


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Frankly, I don't think its in anyway reasonable to expect Bioware to waste their time moderating the kind of discussions we saw in those horrifyingly creepy romance threads. FWIW, I'm actually positive about there being a dedicated romance and discussion board (if only to keep that faff confined to a single area) - just not those who insist on turning it into a cesspool. You know who you are!


It actually looks they have been trying pretty hard to distance themselves from those type of fans as much as possible of late. So i doubt we'll see it again.

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The amount of quibbling and fighting in this one thread should hint that a sub forum of this nature will lead to endless conflict.

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i liked the character threads, a lot of people put in a ton of effort to maintain them, too.

idk why but the groups dont seem to be as lively either

Modifié par rekn2, 26 novembre 2013 - 06:20 .


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I can't personally wait for the obsessed fans of one character to invade the threads of another until it devolves into constant attacks on the characters, sarcastically insulting the opposing posters but not enough to get a warning for it, and then directly attacking them.

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I never followed them, so how bad were they?

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Quite frankly, I think people are exaggerating the issue.  The Tali thread was quite peaceful.

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hopefully, it will be highly amusing.

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It's still there. Go read it. Such things should never be repeated.

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They took people like GMag away from us. Let them never return to harm anyone else.

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Quite frankly, I think people are exaggerating the issue.  The Tali thread was quite peaceful.



it was no where near as bad as people are saying

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Quite frankly, I think people are exaggerating the issue.  The Tali thread was quite peaceful.


The Tali thread was pretty bad but the Miranda thread(s) are what set the Character forums aflame.

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Quite frankly, I think people are exaggerating the issue.  The Tali thread was quite peaceful.


it was a massive circlejerk

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Quite frankly, I think people are exaggerating the issue.  The Tali thread was quite peaceful.


it was a massive circlejerk


no more or less than anything else

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the biggest problem was that people started attack the other characters in there respective topics.

And honestly it shouldn't have gone that far. Its people proposfully starting a conflict. 1 person does it and 10 people respond to get "revenge" so it turned into a visious circle

Who knows maybe if people followed the ToS it would have been better.

Honestly what Mods needed to do was do a 3 day ban, and if they came back, 2 week ban to "cool down" Then after that, they clearly are just a troll and are only there to cause trouble and need to be gotten rid of.

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rekn2 wrote...

no more or less than anything else


All of the romance threads were above and beyond any other type of thread on this site in terms of circlejerkery. At least in mage and templar threads you can get some form of debate going. I can't say the same about any of the character threads I've looked through

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Honestly what Mods needed to do was do a 3 day ban, and if they came back, 2 week ban to "cool down" Then after that, they clearly are just a troll and are only there to cause trouble and need to be gotten rid of.


The entire sub-forum had gone to hell, there was infighting in character threads and "raids" on other threads organized. Closing the sub-forum and leaving it to groups was the wisest course of action, let them quibble amongst themselves and let them deal with it.