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[Roux72]

None.

[Kem]

I find it funny how so many of you would rather kill the Drell instead of (for example) the Asari which are in my top 3 poorest races ever designed for a Sci-Fy product (book/movie/game/tv series etc).I understand the idea of throwing the races you haven't seen alot of under the bus because you don't care as much for them but you have to at least see the potential within them.

Since ME1 I was facinated by the Hanar and in ME2 Thane intensified this facination while at the same adding one for the Drell.If we ever get to see Kahje I know the two races will be properly fleshed out so I don't want them to get the boot this early in the franchise.

My top 2 "get the boot" would be:

1)Reapers/Asari=I know BW might have asked this question in order to see which races need more spotlight or which to include in the playable races roster but if I have to deal with the reapers again I think I might just quit the series.They're history now so keep them for the Codex.If reapers are not a viable choice then Asari would be my next pick for #1.

2)Geth/Raloi=I love the Geth but the most important ending (IMO obviously) has them dead so I would reluctently say "goodbye" to them if I had too.The Raoli are tied with the Geth because we literaly see nothing about them in game aside form a news report.The fact that they might already be extinct by the time Shep deals with the reapers is also a fact that weighed heavly on my decision.

Modifié par Kem, 11 janvier 2014 - 12:47 .

[windsea]

Raloi and the Virtual Aliens

[Seival]

All races introduced in ME Trilogy should stay in MEU. But I believe many of them need re-design. Too many of them look humanoid. Some have rather ridiculous and funny proportions and looks... I think re-design is really needed for most of the races.

For example, Turians would be much better if they would look more like this:


Hanar would look better like this:


Krogan would look better like this:


Asari would look better like this:


Elcor would look better like this:


Vorcha would look better like this:


etc.

The point is to have really diverse sizes and profiles instead of "20 humans in fancy costumes" as "different alien races".

Modifié par Seival, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:22 .

[Armass81]

Seival wrote...

All races introduced in ME Trilogy should stay in MEU. But I believe many of them need re-design. Too many of them look humanoid. Some have rather ridiculous and funny proportions and looks... I think re-design is really needed for most of the races.

For example, Turians would be much better if they would look more like this:


Hanar would look better like this:


Krogan would look better like this:


Asari would look better like this:


Elcor would look better like this:


Vorcha would look better like this:


etc.

The point is to have really diverse sizes and profiles instead of "20 humans in fancy costumes" as "different alien races".

The thing is youre not going to get that in these games. Each of those creatures would require a completely different skeleton and physics to work within a game setting. Way too costly. Many of the races run on human animations, which is why humanoid form is good. Also they need to be able to hold a gun or armor. Races like elcor and hanar need their own unique animations, which the first game didnt even show. If you have 20 races like that which each have their own unique animations, its a nightmare to develop.

Also, If you had those species replacing the old species, this wouldnt be ME anymore, in any form. It would be unrecognizable. You might as well start a new IP.

Modifié par Armass81, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:07 .

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...

All races introduced in ME Trilogy should stay in MEU. But I believe many of them need re-design. Too many of them look humanoid. Some have rather ridiculous and funny proportions and looks... I think re-design is reallyneeded for most of the races.

For example, Turians would be much better if they would look more like this:


Hanar would look better like this:


Krogan would look better like this:


Asari would look better like this:


Elcor would look better like this:


Vorcha would look better like this:


etc.

The point is to have really diverse sizes and profiles instead of "20 humans in fancy costumes" as "different alien races".

HELL NO.

Why are you trying to kill the Mass Effect Universe and ruin our favorite races?

Modifié par General TSAR, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:57 .

[Br3admax]

Anything not human.

[ruggly]

dreamgazer wrote...

Drell and Geth.

[Seival]

Armass81 wrote...

Seival wrote...

All races introduced in ME Trilogy should stay in MEU. But I believe many of them need re-design. Too many of them look humanoid. Some have rather ridiculous and funny proportions and looks... I think re-design is really needed for most of the races.

For example, Turians would be much better if they would look more like this:


Hanar would look better like this:


Krogan would look better like this:


Asari would look better like this:


Elcor would look better like this:


Vorcha would look better like this:


etc.

The point is to have really diverse sizes and profiles instead of "20 humans in fancy costumes" as "different alien races".

The thing is youre not going to get that in these games. Each of those creatures would require a completely different skeleton and physics to work within a game setting. Way too costly. Also they need to be able to hold a gun or armor.

Costly and challenging, yes. But the impart on the atmosphere and visual part of the game would be awesome. None of these races should be collossal, sizes from race to race may differ not too much. But I believe that completely different forms, which perfectly correspond to the races' ideas are really needed.

As for giving them armor and weapons - this is not more challenging than arming the current Elcor, Hanar, or Rachni.

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...
Costly and challenging, yes. But the impart on the atmosphere and visual part of the game would be awesome.

 
Subjective opinion, not objective fact.

[Armass81]

Seival. those wouldnt work, as I already said they would be unrecognizable. It might as well be a new IP if you changed any of the old races into those.... things. As for new races, some of them might be ok, but not for the old.

Modifié par Armass81, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:20 .

[Seival]

General TSAR wrote...

Seival wrote...
Costly and challenging, yes. But the impart on the atmosphere and visual part of the game would be awesome.

 
Subjective opinion, not objective fact.

Correct. And?

I prefer alien races to be alien races, not a human cosplay.

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...
Correct. And?

I prefer alien races to be alien races, not a human cosplay.

Then go find a different gaming franchise.

Mass Effect will always have humanoid aliens for practical purposes and to better connect with the player, deal with it. 

Modifié par General TSAR, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:22 .

[Armass81]

Seival wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

Seival wrote...
Costly and challenging, yes. But the impart on the atmosphere and visual part of the game would be awesome.

 
Subjective opinion, not objective fact.

Correct. And?

I prefer alien races to be alien races, not a human cosplay.

In addition to the practicality of animation costs and space, in a setting of scifi space opera like ME, you need a certain amount of familiarity. Thats why starfish aliens like hanar are intresting, but they should not be the constant rule in that setting.

I for one cant look and point on a salarian and krogan, and in any way say "thats a human in a costume". I can do that with asari and quarians tough, and I agree its kinda stupid.

Modifié par Armass81, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:29 .

[Seival]

Armass81 wrote...


Seival. those wouldnt work, as I already said they would be unrecognizable. It would be a new IP if you changed any of the old races into those.... things. As for new races, some of them might be ok, but not for the old.

Well, they might decide to revamp MEU. Keep the main ideas, but change and improve the visual style. They did it twice to DA series already, so I see no problem here. And BioWare are known for capability of making very challenging things.

[Armass81]

Seival wrote...

Armass81 wrote...


Seival. those wouldnt work, as I already said they would be unrecognizable. It would be a new IP if you changed any of the old races into those.... things. As for new races, some of them might be ok, but not for the old.

Well, they might decide to revamp MEU. Keep the main ideas, but change and improve the visual style. They did it twice to DA series already, so I see no problem here. And BioWare are known for capability of making very challenging things.

Yes, improve. Not change completely. Thats a whole different can of worms.

Btw if you like a space game with diverse aliens, you should check out Star Control 2:The Ur-Quan Masters, if you havent already. Its an oldie, but goodie.

Modifié par Armass81, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:41 .

[Seival]

Armass81 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Armass81 wrote...


Seival. those wouldnt work, as I already said they would be unrecognizable. It would be a new IP if you changed any of the old races into those.... things. As for new races, some of them might be ok, but not for the old.

Well, they might decide to revamp MEU. Keep the main ideas, but change and improve the visual style. They did it twice to DA series already, so I see no problem here. And BioWare are known for capability of making very challenging things.

Yes, improve. Not change completely. Thats a whole different can of worms.

Yes, a whole different can of worms. But not an invalid one. Personally I hope for most races visual revamp. I believe that only Humans, Salarians, Quarians, and Geth should remain as they are - more than enough humanoid races which look very good.

Modifié par Seival, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:37 .

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...
Personally I hope for most races visual revamp.

And I personally hope BW doesn't listen to your asinine ideas and I hope you find a different gaming franchise for your needs instead of trying to ruin Mass Effect. 

Modifié par General TSAR, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:42 .

[AresKeith]

I like how he claims to love a series and yet he wants them to be completely unrecognizable

Seival wrote...
Personally I hope for most races visual revamp.

HELL NO

Modifié par AresKeith, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:43 .

[Seival]

General TSAR wrote...

Seival wrote...
Personally I hope for most races visual revamp.

And I personally hope BW doesn't listen to your asinine ideas and I hope you find a different gaming franchise for your needs instead of trying to ruin Mass Effect. 

If some other sci-fi franchise would make many intelligent alien races without "human cosplay", that would definitely be that franchise's advantage over Mass Effect. But I don't recall any announced game with such feature. And I prefer BioWare to do that first... Maybe not in NME, but in new IP. But NME is more preferrable.

[General TSAR]

Seival wrote...

If some other sci-fi franchise would make many intelligent alien races without "human cosplay", that would definitely be that franchise's advantage over Mass Effect.

Yeah I can see how people can connect with Cthulhu or have a Bromance with a Martian Puma. <_< 

But I don't recall any announced game with such feature.

Then go create one instead of trying to ruin this franchise.

And I prefer BioWare to do that first... Maybe not in NME, but in new IP.

They have enough on their plate as it is and you want to strech their resources? So glad you're not part of any development team of a successful company.  

But NME is more preferrable.

How about no?

Modifié par General TSAR, 12 janvier 2014 - 06:03 .

[dreamgazer]

Seival wrote...

I prefer alien races to be alien races, not a human cosplay.

How do you know that aliens aren't bipeds like us? 

[dreamgazer]

I wonder if there's a species of beings somewhere in space who look and act almost exactly like humans, only with three eyes and purple skin, thinking that aliens out in the cosmos must look completely and utterly different from them.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 12 janvier 2014 - 06:05 .

[Br3admax]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

I prefer alien races to be alien races, not a human cosplay.

How do you know that aliens aren't bipeds like us? 

How does he know what any alien race looks like? The possibilities are...unpleasant.