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[leaguer of one]

InvincibleHero wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Battle field and COD you kill nothing but Terrorist, and Russians.

So Russians are not white males?  I assume COD is Arabic terrorists right but would you say the game is made with PC principles in application?

Teasing. And you are right. Games in general do play it safe with the villian's race.

[Br3admax]

Are you seriously arguing now that we don't know what we speak like until we hear another accent? Right.

[leaguer of one]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Well, he is a man whose dad ditched him, who cheated on his girl, doesn't play by the rules, talks with that oh so noticable accent, and looks like kayne west.

It ain't looking good.

In short he's the guy with issue who happens to be black. Like Anderson is your mentor who happens to be black.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I think the bigger question is why the mods felt that we should have the polls section locked, therefore keeping people from polling the bsn for their opinion on diversity and "token" characters.

[AresKeith]

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

[leaguer of one]

Br3ad wrote...

Are you seriously arguing now that we don't know what we speak like until we hear another accent? Right.

More of a case with accents. Everyone has their own normal.

[dragonflight288]

That's the question I would like answered: why is the idea of inclusivity and diversity so damned threatening that it inspires the same kind of vitriolic reaction again and again and again?

Because people as a culture have been conditioned to believe that different is uncomfortable, and if they ask for more representation, it must mean that they are whining about it.

Or I may be wrong. I am simply saying this because this was the attitude I had when I was in junior high school. If it was different than what I was used to, I was uncomfortable. If I didn't see it everyday, I didn't want it near me.

I'm happy to say I've matured significantly in the 12-15 years since then.

[Inquisitor Recon]

So much white guilt in this thread.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Projections are bad, m'kay?

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

Jacob could be made White and it would make no differece to his character.

[spirosz]

@Darth Brotarian 

"Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Works perfect with your avatar and the hand movement, rofl. 

[Ryzaki]

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

[Paul E Dangerously]

Silfren wrote...
That's the question I would like answered: why is the idea of inclusivity and diversity so damned threatening that it inspires the same kind of vitriolic reaction again and again and again?

While I don't think "threatening" is the right word, if you keep railing on an issue long enough you're going to make even the people who support the issue sick of hearing about it. Given that the whole "cater to my taste" thing is the most prevalent topic on the board bar none, well..

[Cainhurst Crow]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

So much white gilt in this thread.

They're everywhere.

[dragonflight288]

Br3ad wrote...

Are you seriously arguing now that we don't know what we speak like until we hear another accent? Right.

Why are we arguing about accents anyway? There isn't a single U.S. accent at all. There's southern dialects, and there are multiple kinds of dialects depending on if you live in Texas or Massachusets. There's also Boughston (Boston) accents, New Jearsy (New Jersy) dialects, rocky-mou'ain dialects and so forth.

And these are all in the U.S. Each one is completely different from another.

And yes, I'm actually studying these in my Structure of English class this semester. We're covering the History of the English Language from Old-English up to Modern, and various dialects, phonemes, allophones, jargon, and regional differences.

[AresKeith]

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

[Senya]

dragonflight288 wrote...

I've only read the first few posts on the first page, so I'm just adding my thoughts here.

I honestly couldn't care less about the sexuality or ethnicity of characters, and I don't think adding them simply for the sake of adding them is beneficial. Ferelden and Orlais seem to be largely european based countries, England and France for example, and the ethnicity seems to reflect that. Antiva seems to be more spanish based, or at least Antivans have closer to a spanish-based accent, and the Free-Marches seem to be quite similar to Greece with the whole City-State set-up. And judging Rivain based on Isabella, they seem to be more Caribbean centric. And the Chasind seem to be Native-Americanish (based on that Chasind in Lothering.)

I honestly don't know the ethno-centric populations of such countries in real life, but I feel adding new and more ethnicities for the sake of adding them wouldn't work well. But say, we had a party member from the Anderfels or some-such, but simply adding in more races would feel like a waste of resources unless it's part of that individual's character background. Say we have an Orleisian member who grew up in a family of immigrants from the Anderfels or something, and it's part of their background as we get to know them, and part of their own internal character conflicts, then I would love to have it.

That said, I'll move onto my opinions of sexuality. I honestly couldn't care less what a character's sexual preference is. In real life, I've been flirted with by gays before, but I'm simply straight. No offense to them or their beliefs/lifestyles, but I simply am straight, and nothing they could've done to romance me would've worked.

I'm against making every character bi-sexual, just as I'm equally against making all characters not-sexual. I liked it in Origins how Alistair and Morrigan are hard-core straight. You can't romance Alistair if you're a guy, and you can't romance Morrigan if you're a girl. They are who they are, whereas Leliana and Zevran make it clear to either gender that they go both ways. And I thought that was cool, and they're true to themselves no matter which gender the character plays as.

Like in ME3, we had an open gay and an open lesbian in the crew, and each could only be romanced by their same gender, in addition to all the other romance options available to Shepard.

I prefer good, solid writing and constant characters. Heck, I'd support having an elf companion who can only be romanced by an elven inquisitor simply because that companion would only like elves that way or a dwarven companion or something like that. So long as they remain true to their character no matter what kind of Inquisitor we make.

I feel doing so increases replayability for the game. If you want to romance someone, you can create a character that falls into their type.

As for having more gays and lesbians in the game, I simply couldn't care less. We know we'll have nine companions. I don't think all of them should be romanceable. Heck, some may already be in relationships. And I don't think we need to have equal numbers of gays vs heteros either. Let the characters develop for themselves, or as the devs write them, and simply let it be.

If they're well-written, solid, and the true to themselves no matter what kind of Inquisitor we make, I'll be happy.

I was going to post, but this says it better than I can ever say it myself.

[dragonflight288]

I was going to post, but this says it better than I can ever say it myself.

Why thank you.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Who here watches ponies?



Because I think this would make a wonderful mage staff.

"Staff of the Alicorn Equestrian: Boost all attributes by 5"

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

....Wait, this is the same character most people said was boring in ME2...

[dragonflight288]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

....Wait, this is the same character most people said was boring in ME2...

Yup.

[Br3admax]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Are you seriously arguing now that we don't know what we speak like until we hear another accent? Right.

Why are we arguing about accents anyway? There isn't a single U.S. accent at all. There's southern dialects, and there are multiple kinds of dialects depending on if you live in Texas or Massachusets. There's also Boughston (Boston) accents, New Jearsy (New Jersy) dialects, rocky-mou'ain dialects and so forth.

And these are all in the U.S. Each one is completely different from another.

And yes, I'm actually studying these in my Structure of English class this semester. We're covering the History of the English Language from Old-English up to Modern, and various dialects, phonemes, allophones, jargon, and regional differences.

Not to mention the multiple accents that can change within these states. I'm actually quite curious to what an American Accent is. The closest I can think of is American Standard.