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[Laughing_Man]

almostinsane99 wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

I've only read the first few posts on the first page, so I'm just adding my thoughts here.

I honestly couldn't care less about the sexuality or ethnicity of characters, and I don't think adding them simply for the sake of adding them is beneficial. Ferelden and Orlais seem to be largely european based countries, England and France for example, and the ethnicity seems to reflect that. Antiva seems to be more spanish based, or at least Antivans have closer to a spanish-based accent, and the Free-Marches seem to be quite similar to Greece with the whole City-State set-up. And judging Rivain based on Isabella, they seem to be more Caribbean centric. And the Chasind seem to be Native-Americanish (based on that Chasind in Lothering.)

I honestly don't know the ethno-centric populations of such countries in real life, but I feel adding new and more ethnicities for the sake of adding them wouldn't work well. But say, we had a party member from the Anderfels or some-such, but simply adding in more races would feel like a waste of resources unless it's part of that individual's character background. Say we have an Orleisian member who grew up in a family of immigrants from the Anderfels or something, and it's part of their background as we get to know them, and part of their own internal character conflicts, then I would love to have it.

That said, I'll move onto my opinions of sexuality. I honestly couldn't care less what a character's sexual preference is. In real life, I've been flirted with by gays before, but I'm simply straight. No offense to them or their beliefs/lifestyles, but I simply am straight, and nothing they could've done to romance me would've worked.

I'm against making every character bi-sexual, just as I'm equally against making all characters not-sexual. I liked it in Origins how Alistair and Morrigan are hard-core straight. You can't romance Alistair if you're a guy, and you can't romance Morrigan if you're a girl. They are who they are, whereas Leliana and Zevran make it clear to either gender that they go both ways. And I thought that was cool, and they're true to themselves no matter which gender the character plays as.

Like in ME3, we had an open gay and an open lesbian in the crew, and each could only be romanced by their same gender, in addition to all the other romance options available to Shepard.

I prefer good, solid writing and constant characters. Heck, I'd support having an elf companion who can only be romanced by an elven inquisitor simply because that companion would only like elves that way or a dwarven companion or something like that. So long as they remain true to their character no matter what kind of Inquisitor we make.

I feel doing so increases replayability for the game. If you want to romance someone, you can create a character that falls into their type.

As for having more gays and lesbians in the game, I simply couldn't care less. We know we'll have nine companions. I don't think all of them should be romanceable. Heck, some may already be in relationships. And I don't think we need to have equal numbers of gays vs heteros either. Let the characters develop for themselves, or as the devs write them, and simply let it be.

If they're well-written, solid, and the true to themselves no matter what kind of Inquisitor we make, I'll be happy.

I was going to post, but this says it better than I can ever say it myself.

^ Indeed. Well said.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

....Wait, this is the same character most people said was boring in ME2...

Such a waste of what could have been a good character

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Morocco Mole wrote...

He was boring because Bioware put no effort into him. Jacob exists purely to round out the roster

Yup. He's not even that great a bitoic.



I don't even know this guy and I know he'd make a better blacks squadmate then jacob.

At least he can make a nice salad in his off time, not just stand over a bunch of guns not cleaning any of them.

[dragonflight288]

Not to mention the multiple accents that can change within these states. I'm actually quite curious to what an American Accent is. The closest I can think of is American Standard.

And I have yet to meet a single person who has studied English be able to pin-point exactly what American Standard truly is.

[DeinonSlayer]

almostinsane99 wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

I've only read the first few posts on the first page, so I'm just adding my thoughts here.

I honestly couldn't care less about the sexuality or ethnicity of characters, and I don't think adding them simply for the sake of adding them is beneficial. Ferelden and Orlais seem to be largely european based countries, England and France for example, and the ethnicity seems to reflect that. Antiva seems to be more spanish based, or at least Antivans have closer to a spanish-based accent, and the Free-Marches seem to be quite similar to Greece with the whole City-State set-up. And judging Rivain based on Isabella, they seem to be more Caribbean centric. And the Chasind seem to be Native-Americanish (based on that Chasind in Lothering.)

I honestly don't know the ethno-centric populations of such countries in real life, but I feel adding new and more ethnicities for the sake of adding them wouldn't work well. But say, we had a party member from the Anderfels or some-such, but simply adding in more races would feel like a waste of resources unless it's part of that individual's character background. Say we have an Orleisian member who grew up in a family of immigrants from the Anderfels or something, and it's part of their background as we get to know them, and part of their own internal character conflicts, then I would love to have it.

That said, I'll move onto my opinions of sexuality. I honestly couldn't care less what a character's sexual preference is. In real life, I've been flirted with by gays before, but I'm simply straight. No offense to them or their beliefs/lifestyles, but I simply am straight, and nothing they could've done to romance me would've worked.

I'm against making every character bi-sexual, just as I'm equally against making all characters not-sexual. I liked it in Origins how Alistair and Morrigan are hard-core straight. You can't romance Alistair if you're a guy, and you can't romance Morrigan if you're a girl. They are who they are, whereas Leliana and Zevran make it clear to either gender that they go both ways. And I thought that was cool, and they're true to themselves no matter which gender the character plays as.

Like in ME3, we had an open gay and an open lesbian in the crew, and each could only be romanced by their same gender, in addition to all the other romance options available to Shepard.

I prefer good, solid writing and constant characters. Heck, I'd support having an elf companion who can only be romanced by an elven inquisitor simply because that companion would only like elves that way or a dwarven companion or something like that. So long as they remain true to their character no matter what kind of Inquisitor we make.

I feel doing so increases replayability for the game. If you want to romance someone, you can create a character that falls into their type.

As for having more gays and lesbians in the game, I simply couldn't care less. We know we'll have nine companions. I don't think all of them should be romanceable. Heck, some may already be in relationships. And I don't think we need to have equal numbers of gays vs heteros either. Let the characters develop for themselves, or as the devs write them, and simply let it be.

If they're well-written, solid, and the true to themselves no matter what kind of Inquisitor we make, I'll be happy.

I was going to post, but this says it better than I can ever say it myself.

Endorsed. It breaks immersion when everyone you run across in the story universe is bi in a transparent attempt to cater to anyone's tastes.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

So much white gilt in this thread.

They're everywhere.

The disadvantages of getting browned by the sun.

[Ryzaki]

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

Yeah he had the start of it in ME2 with the Corsair but that's COMPLETELY brushed over. It's like they forget here's there most of the time. His loyalty mission could've been a nice insight but he completely shoves you away and says he's "fine" and meh *shrugs*

Denion Slayerwrote...

Endorsed. It breaks immersion when everyone you run across in the story
universe is bi in a transparent attempt to cater to anyone's tastes.

*looks at avatar*

*laughs and laughs and laughs*

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 novembre 2013 - 06:03 .

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Statare wrote...
 Is Jacob simplt "the black guy"?

Towards the middle of ME2 and onward, sadly Yes

And ME3 takes it over the top with jealous baby momma Brynn.

yeesh.

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

....Wait, this is the same character most people said was boring in ME2...

Such a waste of what could have been a good character

[Silfren]

J. Reezy wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...
Anderson is a black guy born and raised in London with an american accent. Ashley we still don't know what ethnicity she even is. ME point that it's all going to be one to the point we see no difference.

Anderson has an American accent? Lolno

Here's the vo.


Keith David. Born and rasied in New york.

He made an awesome gargoyle, I must say.

Modifié par Silfren, 27 novembre 2013 - 06:03 .

[The Flying Grey Warden]

I think what DA could really use is more representation of those who do not necessarily identify with beings of a humanoid nature.



These would make better squadmates btw. At least they'd have a reason to not act like sentient humans and more cartoony caricatures.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

I think what DA could really use is more representation of those who do not necessarily identify with beings of a humanoid nature.



These would make better squadmates btw. At least they'd have a reason to not act like sentient humans and more cartoony caricatures.

[leaguer of one]

Silfren wrote...



He made an awesome gargoyle, I must say.

Damn Disney to hell for ending that show......

[Enigmatick]

CrustyBot wrote...

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

I think what DA could really use is more representation of those who do not necessarily identify with beings of a humanoid nature.



These would make better squadmates btw. At least they'd have a reason to not act like sentient humans and more cartoony caricatures.

You got a pretty good chuckle out of me with that one crusty.

[SlottsMachine]

dragonflight288 wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Such a waste of  what could have been a good character

....Wait, this is the same character most people said was boring in ME2...

Yup.

So?

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

Denion Slayerwrote...

Endorsed. It breaks immersion when everyone you run across in the story
universe is bi in a transparent attempt to cater to anyone's tastes.

*looks at avatar*

*laughs and laughs and laughs*

Yeah, yeah, mea culpa. :innocent:

You know what I'm saying. Everyone in ME except Kaidan and Chobot have limitations in regards to who they'll romance. As I understand it, everyone in DA2 is bi.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 27 novembre 2013 - 06:06 .

[The Flying Grey Warden]

leaguer of one wrote...

Silfren wrote...



He made an awesome gargoyle, I must say.

Damn Disney to hell for ending that show......

Goliath deserves a better ending.

[Br3admax]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

He was boring because Bioware put no effort into him. Jacob exists purely to round out the roster

Yup. He's not even that great a bitoic.



I don't even know this guy and I know he'd make a better blacks squadmate then jacob.

At least he can make a nice salad in his off time, not just stand over a bunch of guns not cleaning any of them.

But, the sit ups. "Throwin up muh barrier!" GTFO, TFGW.

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Denion Slayerwrote...

Endorsed. It breaks immersion when everyone you run across in the story
universe is bi in a transparent attempt to cater to anyone's tastes.

*looks at avatar*

*laughs and laughs and laughs*

You know what I'm saying. Everyone in ME except Kaidan and Chobot have limitations in regards to who they'll romance. As I understand it, everyone in DA2 is bi.

Tali and Garrus are romance options in a transparent attempt to cater to some people's tastes is my point. It's as much fanservice as everyone being bi. Only it's fanservice for you so apparently that makes it more acceptable.

Also no everyone in DA2 is not bi. I wish to god people would stop saying that as if they know wtf they're talking about.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 novembre 2013 - 06:07 .

[dragonflight288]

Filament wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

And I have yet to meet a single person who has studied English be able to pin-point exactly what American Standard truly is.

Keith David. Now we all know.

[Senya]

Ryzaki wrote...

Denion Slayerwrote...

Endorsed. It breaks immersion when everyone you run across in the story
universe is bi in a transparent attempt to cater to anyone's tastes.

*looks at avatar*

*laughs and laughs and laughs*

????

[Laughing_Man]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

I think what DA could really use is more representation of those who do not necessarily identify with beings of a humanoid nature.



These would make better squadmates btw. At least they'd have a reason to not act like sentient humans and more cartoony caricatures.

There are things you should not even joke about.
The human mind can contain only so much horror before it breaks down.

[Steelcan]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Denion Slayerwrote...

Endorsed. It breaks immersion when everyone you run across in the story
universe is bi in a transparent attempt to cater to anyone's tastes.

*looks at avatar*

*laughs and laughs and laughs*

Yeah, yeah, mea culpa. :innocent:

You know what I'm saying. Everyone in ME except Kaidan and Chobot have limitations in regards to who they'll romance. As I understand it, everyone in DA2 is bi.

can of worms opened...

[Silfren]

leaguer of one wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

How about they work on making the best game possible rather than trying to appease those who look for reasons to be offended by "not enough people of X race/sexuality/gender/whatever"?

Why does making the best game possible, telling the best story possible, have to come at the expense of excluding minorities? 

Dear lord, what make you think thedus has the same Human development our world does or even have the same issues? The point is not to force it in. Thedus is not a mirror of our world. It not like human of thedes is not show to have ethnic variety.

I don't think you've thought your own argument through.