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[Alien Number Six]

Overrated: AIU (Only because I feel the GI and the TGI are better.)
Underrated: Human Engineer (Get rid of drone and fire explode all things.)
Best: GI (The damage boosts from his powers can't be ignored.)

[ZombieGrenadier]

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

juggernaut .. gives an early gold access to newcomers, but that's just about it if you don't know how to play him.

It gives an early access to losing gold games in a manner more pathetic than most other characters. If you think about an early access to winning gold games it is QFI (a silver character by the way) against geth. You can use her successfully well below level 20. Any pistol (scorpion is probably the best for more havoc), disruptor ammo, some cloak and sabotage and you are good to go. The most underrrated character in my opinion. 

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Underrated is deffinetly krogan shaman. Especially maxing all the power damages.
Overrated is the GI. He's powerful, yea, but tactical cloak is more like tactical snore. Boring.
Favourite. TSab all the way through the double rainbow!

[Supreme Leech]

ZombieGrenadier wrote...


It gives an early access to losing gold games in a manner more pathetic than most other characters.

Very well said, that is so very true.

[Supreme Leech]

ROBOTICSUPERMAN wrote...

Underrated is deffinetly krogan shaman. Especially maxing all the power damages.
Overrated is the GI. He's powerful, yea, but tactical cloak is more like tactical snore. Boring.
Favourite. TSab all the way through the double rainbow!

I think I've heard it all now. BSN considers the following things boring:

Tactical cloak
Flamer
Grenades
Fury
Juggernaut
Demolisher
Talon mercenary
Kroguard
Paladin
Krolord
Slayer

You've pretty much excluded the vast majority of characters, including a whole class (infiltrators) and all grenade users. How do you people even have fun playing this game? I would have stopped playing like 2 years ago. Go play something else!

Modifié par XFG-65, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:28 .

[Cohen le Barbare]

ZombieGrenadier wrote...

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

juggernaut .. gives an early gold access to newcomers, but that's just about it if you don't know how to play him.

It gives an early access to losing gold games in a manner more pathetic than most other characters. If you think about an early access to winning gold games it is QFI (a silver character by the way) against geth. You can use her successfully well below level 20. Any pistol (scorpion is probably the best for more havoc), disruptor ammo, some cloak and sabotage and you are good to go. The most underrrated character in my opinion. 

When you're a beginner, surviving gold is about being able to sustain a lot of damage. The juggernaut and the krogard are best for that, but the latter usually ends up synckilled somewhere, somehow, whereas the former can't be. I don't use the QFI much myself, but it's in part due to the funky flight path of the grenades. I usually use a widow on her. I think I managed my first silver solo that way.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

[quote]XFG-65 wrote...

I think I've heard it all now. BSN considers the following things boring:

Tactical cloak etc /quote]i think it is probably because it is too easy to play these characters. TC with its evasive uses and up to a 90% damage boost. grenades have high damage, but is probably more to do with having lots of grenades when using grenade gear so not much deters you from spamming. juggs strength and unsung killness. Kroguards tankyness with bc. The slayers pd is pretty powerfull and after the slayers last buff, which was unnecessary, he became a wrecking ball. 

Maybe be its that these characters rely on spamming one attack repeatedly,  grenades, TC, melee,  bc, 

not or that I agree with all the things in this list. 

[JBigga]

Underrated: human adept
Overrated: any vanguard

[Chealec]

ViaNegativia wrote...

Krogan shaman is really underrated imo, I rarely see it in lobbies. He's a solid kit and great fun.

The "best" kits are probably TGI, GI, GT, Destroyer, AIU, KroGuard, and DI.

My favorites to play are the GE, Turian Soldier, QME, and Drell Adept

I agree with the Shaman for must underrated, totally... I sort of forget he's there but I noticed I was close to Barrier Detonations Use challenge again recently and dragged him out of the cupboard for some Gold PuGs; great fun.

After the first game though, I think the host noticed that we smashed through gold so he upped it to platinum and I just stuck with the KroDept. The result was ... unexpected. I may have a new favourite character to take into platinum, the KroDept/Piranha is awesome


Over-rated is probably the AIU - on paper she should be amazeballs but I so rarely see anyone do well with her unless they slap on a Reegar. She's alright if you want an easymode (as in you cannot really die) game but she just doesn't seem to have quite the damage output of some other kits.


Favourite ... melee specced Krentinel. Any day. MMRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaWWWWW!

[TopTrog]

Based on the most/least used character statistics from the sticky thread plus my own preferences here´s my two cents on this:

Most overrated: Juggernaut. I don´t like playing him but he surely gets deployed a lot
Most underrated: MQE and BatDept. Easily two of the very best in the game at what they excel at (CC and peak damage), yet nobody seems to ever play them. Pity, as they are also a ton of fun to play.
Best: TGI, GI, Trooper
Favorite: Original Krogan Sentinel. Deadly at any range, it just feels great to play him. Mrahhhhh !

[Dovakiin_N7]

Alien Number Six wrote...


Underrated: Human Engineer (Get rid of drone and fire explode all things.)

This.. I dont understand why you dont see them. Alien, I do like Combat drone though.

[Tonymac]

I have a few toons I just love to use.

GI, GT, TGI, GE, TSOL - For when you absolutely, positively have to kill every mofugger in the map.

there are more of course..... but we all have our favorites.

[Peer of the Empire]

megabeast37215 wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...
What about the krpgan vanguard? I find him much more survivable than a TGI, he really can't die. He does high damage with a reegar with max level incendiary and weapon amps. He has the perfect combination of survivability and damage output.

I feel the TGI kills quicker, and with less risk overall. Kroguard is a total murder train for sure... But his susceptibility against sync killers makes me think the TGI is better overall. I really do think the TGI is the best character in the game from a min/max perspective. Kroguard also needs a cyclonic 3 or 4 to really achieve that incredible level of tankiness IMO... TGI doesn't need a cyclonic at all. 

Kroguard doesn't need cyclonic for platinum.  Not even the soldier does

Back up from phantoms after charge.

The TGI can also be 6/6/6/6/6 glitched, has the best shield wiping ability in the game (cloaked overload).. the only thing that comes close to it or surpasses it is a cloaked Arc Nade. 

All that cheating, and it doesn't come close to the Acolyte

[Peer of the Empire]

Krogan soldier build in my sig molests all the phantoms on Platinum.  He runs at them.  All mooks are his prey.  He has his way with phantoms and others in seconds.

Can even save himself after phantom gets the jump.  Just have to keep the acolyte charged a lot

Soldier has better shield regen than the Sentinel, which otherwise could perform similarly.  Soldier shields will begin to regen, in combat, on Platinum, especially if Cyclonic is taken, allowing the Soldier to stay mobile and tanky.  Discharge Fortification from time to time to get the melee bonus.

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 29 novembre 2013 - 04:57 .

[GodLovesATrier]

TopTrog wrote...

Based on the most/least used character statistics from the sticky thread plus my own preferences here´s my two cents on this:

Most overrated: Juggernaut. I don´t like playing him but he surely gets deployed a lot
Most underrated: MQE and BatDept. Easily two of the very best in the game at what they excel at (CC and peak damage), yet nobody seems to ever play them. Pity, as they are also a ton of fun to play.
Best: TGI, GI, Trooper
Favorite: Original Krogan Sentinel. Deadly at any range, it just feels great to play him. Mrahhhhh !

Couldn't have put it better myself. The only reason we could think of back when those stats came out was that most players would not have the necessary Gren cap gear to completely fulfil the potential of the QME/Bat slasher.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

stricko wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

- Most underrated: N7 Shadow. A lot of people don't have a clue about how powerful this character is. They hate on her powers, they hate on her fraility, they hate on how difficult she is to use off-host... But I think they are just nuts.

The easiest kit to solo Gold v Cerberus.

I would agree about soloing Cerberus, but I'm not sure about being underrated, necessarily.

While many people bemoan Shadow Strike, and some dislike the slow animation of Electric Slash, I don't think she gets maligned as often as some other kits.

And, of course, she benefits from Tactical Cloak, which most people consider an OP power, so she gets plenty of recognition for being a powerful kit, in that sense.

[Chief Capo]

Malanek999 wrote...

Chief Capo wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

The most underated kit would be something like the Vorcha Engineer, Batarian Adept or Human Sentinel. Overrated, I would go for the Geth Juggernaut.

I definitely agree with you on the underrated side, but on the overrated, the juggernaut? Noooooo, Every team can benefit from a Geth Juggernaut, They can change the tide of battle. They've got a tanky kit and if you spec into siege pulse you can get small targets away quick. I don't think he belongs in the overrated section

I'll try and explain. Whenever you start talking about "under or over" rated anything, you are making assumptions on what others are thinking. I'm not saying the Geth Juggernaut is a bad kit, I'm saying people tend to think it is better than it really is. A lot of people would say it is one of the best kits in the game. It is the most played kit in the game, that shows it is highly rated. 

It is extremely resiliant thanks to high shields and the melee and it has a decent power in siege pulse. But it is really slow.

A fully competent team will clear any map on any level faster without a Juggernaut than with one simply because of its lack of speed, which goes against what you said. I also actually think it is one of the more difficult kits to solo gold or platinum mainly because you cannot kite. The same problem strikes you when you are pugging and the team goes awol. And it is strangely lag dependent with both siege pulse and heavy melee not behaving properly under even moderate lag.

Eh I can't agree. I can see what you're saying, And I hardly play silver/bronze anymore so this post was directed more towards gold/platinum.... but IN MY OPINION, A fully competent team WITH a Geth Jugg with Clear any map
on any difficulty with less trouble to deal with. (Excluding Bronze and Silver cause there's hardly any trouble there as it is) Maybe not as fast, but definitely with less trouble.

Put it like this, I think a good team with a pro juggernaut will face less downed teammates, less trouble on certain objectives, BECAUSE of the juggernaut taking care of the big guys, setting up shields to block damage, getting enemies away from teammates with siege pulse, Etc. I wouldn't see how his lack of speed would effect a good team who stays together.

I think he lives up to his reputation in every way possible, a Team with a Good Jugg may not clear the map on platinum as quick as a non-jug team, but they will definitely face less problems so long as you have a good juggernaut player who knows what he's doing... Especially if the team uses strategies like fortifying a position and just holding it down (Similar to how a lot of people play on Firebase giant in the corner) the Geth juggernaut will live up to it's reputation in every way, and shine. And the way you're talking, it implies that you're also saying he's overrated, that's why I can't agree, Cause he is as good as people say he is in my opinion

Modifié par Chief Capo, 29 novembre 2013 - 07:33 .

[Lyrandori]

Most overrated: On paper I think they're all good in their own rights when played properly, but here on the BSN forums I keep seeing praise given to the Geth Infiltrator. I tried him a couple of times, and it's true he deals a crap load of sniper damage, but my gosh he's boring to play. That doesn't make him overrated though, he's really good, he's just boring.

Most underrated: Cabal I'd say. Supposedly Poison Strike is too buggy, especially off-host (but even as host) and Ballistic Blades is better than Nightshade Blades anyway. That's what I've seen lots of people saying around, giving me the impression that the character isn't well-rated or simply under-rated. I've tried her a couple of times and she's fun, but she's not exactly the solo-friendly character for me (if it is for any of you guys then good for you). I really do love how Nightshade Blades eats Phantoms for breakfast though (personally I love that power, but I do prefer Ballistic Blades). I do know one thing is for sure, however, is that I see her extremely rarely in PUGs especially on Gold (but she's rare even on Silver).

Favorite: I can't just pick one, sorry. I have like 10 characters I really like pretty much equally, they'd all be squished like sardines on the podium. But I can easily say that I just love the Human Soldiers (male/female, I spec them both differently so I use them both) because of Adrenaline Rush, any characters with Overload because Overload (especially Human Engineers) and both the Salarian and Drell Assassin (especially the Drell thanks to Recon Mine). And more...

Modifié par Lyrandori, 29 novembre 2013 - 09:58 .

[MtOMajorCat0311]

Chief Capo wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Chief Capo wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

The most underated kit would be something like the Vorcha Engineer, Batarian Adept or Human Sentinel. Overrated, I would go for the Geth Juggernaut.

I definitely agree with you on the underrated side, but on the overrated, the juggernaut? Noooooo, Every team can benefit from a Geth Juggernaut, They can change the tide of battle. They've got a tanky kit and if you spec into siege pulse you can get small targets away quick. I don't think he belongs in the overrated section

I'll try and explain. Whenever you start talking about "under or over" rated anything, you are making assumptions on what others are thinking. I'm not saying the Geth Juggernaut is a bad kit, I'm saying people tend to think it is better than it really is. A lot of people would say it is one of the best kits in the game. It is the most played kit in the game, that shows it is highly rated. 

It is extremely resiliant thanks to high shields and the melee and it has a decent power in siege pulse. But it is really slow.

A fully competent team will clear any map on any level faster without a Juggernaut than with one simply because of its lack of speed, which goes against what you said. I also actually think it is one of the more difficult kits to solo gold or platinum mainly because you cannot kite. The same problem strikes you when you are pugging and the team goes awol. And it is strangely lag dependent with both siege pulse and heavy melee not behaving properly under even moderate lag.

Eh I can't agree. I can see what you're saying, And I hardly play silver/bronze anymore so this post was directed more towards gold/platinum.... but IN MY OPINION, A fully competent team WITH a Geth Jugg with Clear any map
on any difficulty with less trouble to deal with. (Excluding Bronze and Silver cause there's hardly any trouble there as it is) Maybe not as fast, but definitely with less trouble.

Put it like this, I think a good team with a pro juggernaut will face less downed teammates, less trouble on certain objectives, BECAUSE of the juggernaut taking care of the big guys, setting up shields to block damage, getting enemies away from teammates with siege pulse, Etc. I wouldn't see how his lack of speed would effect a good team who stays together.

I think he lives up to his reputation in every way possible, a Team with a Good Jugg may not clear the map on platinum as quick as a non-jug team, but they will definitely face less problems so long as you have a good juggernaut player who knows what he's doing... Especially if the team uses strategies like fortifying a position and just holding it down (Similar to how a lot of people play on Firebase giant in the corner) the Geth juggernaut will live up to it's reputation in every way, and shine. And the way you're talking, it implies that you're also saying he's overrated, that's why I can't agree, Cause he is as good as people say he is in my opinion

I agree.  In fact, a well-played Jug is really a thankless job.  You block, buff teammates, draw the bosses/mobs, and generally get hammered while your teammates score points.  Doing it  well is not easy and I always appreciate seeing a Jug in a difficult match as I know it will let me live a little longer and allow everyone else to rack up scoreboard.   Funny thing (goes for the Krolord too), it doesn't seem to take long for the casual Jug player to get slaughtered in a G/P match if it tries to play like a solo cowboy.

[Cohen le Barbare]

MtOMajorCat0311 wrote...
I agree.  In fact, a well-played Jug is really a thankless job.  You block, buff teammates, draw the bosses/mobs, and generally get hammered while your teammates score points.  Doing it  well is not easy and I always appreciate seeing a Jug in a difficult match as I know it will let me live a little longer and allow everyone else to rack up scoreboard.   Funny thing (goes for the Krolord too), it doesn't seem to take long for the casual Jug player to get slaughtered in a G/P match if it tries to play like a solo cowboy.

Like all soldier, his job is to deal damage. You draw aggro sure, but you can keep everyone at bay.

kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#2B!1501545!!34Q51364!88.EG

Now go top the scoreboard. Really easy to play. Shoot with the adas, when the target burns, shield pulse. Fire explosion. Rince and repeat. Banshees won't even come near you as you will stunlock them and set them on fire. Your real enemies will be ravagers, brutes, scions and praetorians, but you should be able to manage if you deploy your shield intelligently. If you don't get 50 tech kills by the end of the match in a normal gold PUG, you did it wrong. Don't hesitate to use thermal clips as you are not the fastest dude around. 

The only downside is that you have to be host, the adas suffers too much off host. 

[Deerber]

Most underrated: QFE/Vorcha Sentinel
Most overrated: Paladin/Valkyrie
Best overall: DrellGod of course.

Also, the Juggernaut is not a character, it's a piece of shiet.

Modifié par Deerber, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:34 .

[ThatOddGuy]

Underrated -- Turian Saboteur , Salarian Engineer

People like to suggest a complete lack of synergy, but Sabotage's priming delay works perfectly with Homing Grenade's travel time. See guide in sig for details.

Salarian Engineer took a huge hit from the decoy nerf that should have been fixed after the FBW fix. But he's still a good and underused kit when given weapon passives and a light weapon for Fire Explosions on any synth/shielded target. Again, see guide in sig for details.


Overrated -- Turian Ghost Infiltrator

He's good, but he's so boring. Also, if there is any sort of lag, those stim packs are quite a pain in the arse. Also not a fan of ARs in this game, really.


Best - it's pretty hard to argue with GI Joe, EDI, and Kroguard... Salarian Infiltrator is up there, too, though.


Favorite - I like lots. Very few kits I really don't like.


There's not a category here for kits that I don't like, but are "good". Like Flamer kits. I really just don't like that ability very much.

[ThatOddGuy]

TopTrog wrote...

Based on the most/least used character statistics from the sticky thread plus my own preferences here´s my two cents on this:

Most overrated: Juggernaut. I don´t like playing him but he surely gets deployed a lot
Most underrated: MQE and BatDept. Easily two of the very best in the game at what they excel at (CC and peak damage), yet nobody seems to ever play them. Pity, as they are also a ton of fun to play.
Best: TGI, GI, Trooper
Favorite: Original Krogan Sentinel. Deadly at any range, it just feels great to play him. Mrahhhhh !

Can you post your build? I've always wondered how I should build the KroDept.

...not that I'm even able to play right now.... nor have I for like a year... but I'm still curious! LOL

[SpaceV3gan]

Underrated: QMI

Overrated: Fury

Best Charater: GT

[Boog_89]

Underrated ... BF3 soldier.
Carnage + Frags!