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I hope elves can catch a break this time around.


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BouncyFrag

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^^
The Stolen Throne is great. I really hope Loghain gets some content in DA:I.

On topic, it seems the elves are the Charlie Brown of Thedas. Things will go wrong no matter what happens though must admit I haven't been exactly helping out their cause either.

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TheButterflyEffect

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No, DA's elves are the most sucktastic, gutless, weak elves EVER.

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LOLandStuff

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Well, they had a human to lead them.
The only good plans elves had this far was to stand aside or take advantage and then getting screwed over both times. Unless they can come up with a better plan, I don't see them lasting much.

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@mx_keep13 

They were an unit of archers created by Loghain , made only from elves. He was the only human. They've got the name "Night Elves" because they usually attacked orlesian camps during night. The orlesians were scared that they will be killed in their sleep by them, as many others were.

LOLandStuff wrote...

Well, they had a human to lead them. 
The only good plans elves had this far was to stand aside or take advantage and then getting screwed over both times. Unless they can come up with a better plan, I don't see them lasting much.


I think that if they apply the same tactics Maric did in the Ferelden - Orlais war they would stand a pretty good chance. Add to that the city elves that might join them and they have a pretty good guerrila force.

Still, we need to see how things go in the next novel. 

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:15 .


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Maric was fighting on his home turf against an enemy who was away from theirs. That would not be the case in the Orlesian Civil War for the rebel elves.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:18 .


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Elven DNA is made to be subjugated.

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Maric was fighting on his home turf against an enemy who was away from theirs. That would not be the case in the Orlesian Civil War for the rebel elves.

Exactly.

Modifié par General TSAR, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:19 .


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sandalisthemaker wrote...

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Elves try to go to war against humans in a large rebellion only to lose and face worse prejudice than before.

As far as the Dalish go, I don't see any other outcome. Their numbers are far too few, and elves are the frailest race in Thedas. The only way they could have any chance of claiming a home for themselves is if the Inquisitor and the entirety of the Inquisition helps them directly. 

Or they and the city elves could sell their souls to the Qun and lose their culture in the process.


Or they could stop trying to claim back a long dead culture destroyed slavery, and try to start a new one as hinted by the Warden-Commander.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Maric was fighting on his home turf against an enemy who was away from theirs. That would not be the case in the Orlesian Civil War for the rebel elves.


Indeed, they wouldn't know the lands as good as the orlesians, but they could learn from their city bretheren. Also, they are very adaptive.

Still, such a war would be at an impasse. The elves wouldn't permit full scale war with the orlesians and would have to resume to stealing supplies and quick strikes on small forces while the orlesians wouldn't stand a chance if they took the war to The Dales ( that if they don't decide to start a huge campfire ).

The Inquisitor might play a part in tipping the balance in one way or another.

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It's so much better dwelling on a past you never knew or even ever existed than to actually do something to improve your existence. One reason I see the elves failing miserably. Instead of moving on they'd rather complain about it.

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Funny, it's elves who are supposed to be superior to humans, not the other way around.

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Elves being beaten out by humans is by no means uncommon.

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KC_Prototype wrote...

Nope, the Inquisitor will be forced to slaughter all elves in order to save humanity.

the Inquisition enemy is demons and red templars)))

Orlais Chantry not decided their exact position to Inquisition but they do not like our organsation and i am sure that they would interfere our work and do their **** propoganda....so they our enemy and with them Orlais is our enemy too

saving Orlais and especialy dales and their jerk humans is not saving humanity)))

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:58 .


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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
Elves are much fewer in number than humans. And not as well equipped or trained.


Dalish crafting, and the Dalish soldiers in DA:O, would disagree with that.


Here's a question - if it is possible to re-establish an elven kingdom of the Dales in Inquisition, will you do so?

Modifié par LookingGlass93, 29 novembre 2013 - 10:57 .


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The only way the elves have a change at rising up and not being utterly destroyed is if they side with the mages and give them safe haven. Given their cultural acceptance of mages doing so be sensible and easy for their people to accept.

Now if they go it alone then you're going to see an American Vs Indian conflict where all they can do is die all over the rest of Thedas.

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Dalish are certainly fewer in number than Orlesians, but I was referring to elves in general. As such it would be the city elves that would be inferior in training and equipment.

As for the second question, almost certainly not. The Dales are gone. The elves don't need that particular piece of territory. For the elves to have a nation it should be somewhere else not where there are major human populations they would have to cleanse.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 29 novembre 2013 - 11:07 .


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They'll still be treated like crap in DAI though it might get even worse in DAI depending on how the masked empire goes and what happens in the game.

Are elves still the downtrodden race in Dragon Age: Inquisition?

Absolutely, in the Dragon Age world elves are still treated as slaves or scum. What will be really interesting in Dragon Age: Inquisition is to see how characters react to a Qunari Inquisitor because they’re in a similar position as the elves were in Dragon Age: Origins. People are pretty sceptical of a putting a Qunari in a position of power.

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JulianWellpit wrote...
Half of them join The Dalish and here you go. Guerrila warfare, robbing and blockades on the main supply rodes.


I really hope that Bioware has something else planned for the CEs than to be assimilated and made second-class Dalish citizens (or be forcibly assimilated into being Dalish). 

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LOLandStuff wrote...

Well, they had a human to lead them.


Thats why the canon warden is Dalish? 

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

Nope, the Inquisitor will be forced to slaughter all elves in order to save humanity.


Pssh!

Humanity is overratted. 

Without humanity, the elves would destroy the world with their elf talk and then the Qunari and Dwarves would be force to assume the role of murdering all elves.

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I'd rather not, I've wiped out two clans already and I'd like to continue my killing spree.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd rather not, I've wiped out two clans already and I'd like to continue my killing spree.

Great minds think alike. 

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Well, they had a human to lead them.


Thats why the canon warden is Dalish? 


That's Bioware's version. There is no canon.
DAII has the human noble as first option.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd rather not, I've wiped out two clans already and I'd like to continue my killing spree.


I'm actually kind of curious about what it is you have against elves. 

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Only fraction that is more screwd and have even lesser chances are mages. What that few elves without any combat traning and don't even seen weapon in their lives can do oh well add to that even fewer dalish elves still they can't do crap. But i hope that elves at least damage seriously orlesians so then i can end their pathetic lives.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

Elves try to go to war against humans in a large rebellion only to lose and face worse prejudice than before.

As far as the Dalish go, I don't see any other outcome. Their numbers are far too few, and elves are the frailest race in Thedas. The only way they could have any chance of claiming a home for themselves is if the Inquisitor and the entirety of the Inquisition helps them directly. 

Or they and the city elves could sell their souls to the Qun and lose their culture in the process.


Or they could just...ya know, leave.