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I hope elves can catch a break this time around.


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Lebanese Dude

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Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


Or it could be reformed into a chantry that treats everyone with respect as it should yay :wizard:

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Or maybe the chantry of new scientology will finally debunk L. Ron Hubbards good name.

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Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


inb4 exalted march

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Lebdood wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


Or it could be reformed into a chantry that treats everyone with respect as it should yay :wizard:

I would rather countries stopped listening to it. I balk at the idea of any religion possessing the power that the Chantry has, even a nice one.

The nations of Thedas are so subservient to the Chantry that they effectively let it kidnap their citizens. Even if the Chantry didn't do that, they should never have been given the right in the first place.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 30 novembre 2013 - 03:42 .


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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Or maybe the chantry of new scientology will finally debunk L. Ron Hubbards good name.

he only has a good name with scientology so its pretty debunked

Modifié par mx_keep13, 30 novembre 2013 - 03:48 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

Lebdood wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


Or it could be reformed into a chantry that treats everyone with respect as it should yay :wizard:

I would rather countries stopped listening to it. I balk at the idea of any religion possessing the power that the Chantry has, even a nice one.

The nations of Thedas are so subservient to the Chantry that they effectively let it kidnap their citizens. Even if the Chantry didn't do that, they should never have been given the right in the first place.


I quite get the feeling that nations would still have Circles even without the Chantry. People fear magic and the Circles are needed for very good reasons.

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Unfortunately for the elves, beards = instant respect.

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


inb4 exalted march

Actually, Exalted Marches of the past required the Chantry to get the armies of various nations involved, in order to be successful. The Chantry didn't drive the Qunari back to Par Vollen by itself; it took the combined might of most of Thedas.

If the nations of Thedas rebel against the Chantry, then the Chantry won't actually have the forces to conduct an Exalted March. The Templars and Seekers aren't numerous enough to march on all the nations at once, and that's assuming they don't defect from the Chantry to defend their home countries.

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Plaintiff wrote...

Lebdood wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


Or it could be reformed into a chantry that treats everyone with respect as it should yay :wizard:

I would rather countries stopped listening to it. I balk at the idea of any religion possessing the power that the Chantry has, even a nice one.

The nations of Thedas are so subservient to the Chantry that they effectively let it kidnap their citizens. Even if the Chantry didn't do that, they should never have been given the right in the first place.


Or they appreciate the Chantry running the Mage control service, now they don't have to deal with it themselves.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

Unfortunately for the elves, beards = instant respect.

Maybe they grow beards in other places

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almostinsane99 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Lebdood wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


Or it could be reformed into a chantry that treats everyone with respect as it should yay :wizard:

I would rather countries stopped listening to it. I balk at the idea of any religion possessing the power that the Chantry has, even a nice one.

The nations of Thedas are so subservient to the Chantry that they effectively let it kidnap their citizens. Even if the Chantry didn't do that, they should never have been given the right in the first place.


I quite get the feeling that nations would still have Circles even without the Chantry. People fear magic and the Circles are needed for very good reasons.

Not every culture in Thedas fears magic or mages, or seeks to imprison them. The people of Rivain do not, the Chasind and the Dalish do not.

But even if some countries chose to maintain their indiivdual Circles, those Circles would at least no longer be under the thumb of a religious authority that is biased against them.

I'm fine with having a system of some kind in place for the education and policing of mages. But the Chantry should never be in charge of it, and individual nations should have the freedom to devise the system that works best for them.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 30 novembre 2013 - 03:56 .


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They'd still be treated with the caution needed. Hopefully. Or they could be used as weapons. It depends on the ruler.

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I was just saying this in another thread...
I find it frustrating how much I help the Dales but it hasn't gotten better for them. My Warden secured land for the Dales from Queen Anora in my first play through. I heard nothing about it in DA2... you would think the Dalish would be talking about it or something. So now I guess it's like it never happened.
In DA2 I killed my wardens clan.Sorry guys.

Modifié par StarLitStranger, 30 novembre 2013 - 04:00 .


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Mages should be killed even damn circles didn't do sh*** when it comes about disasters caused by mages.

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mx_keep13 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Unfortunately for the elves, beards = instant respect.

Maybe they grow beards in other places


...

Go on...

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wolfhowwl wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Lebdood wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Instead of changing the Chantry, countries could just opt to stop listening to it.


Or it could be reformed into a chantry that treats everyone with respect as it should yay :wizard:

I would rather countries stopped listening to it. I balk at the idea of any religion possessing the power that the Chantry has, even a nice one.

The nations of Thedas are so subservient to the Chantry that they effectively let it kidnap their citizens. Even if the Chantry didn't do that, they should never have been given the right in the first place.


Or they appreciate the Chantry running the Mage control service, now they don't have to deal with it themselves.

"That wife doesn't fear her husband's beatings. She appreciates his constructive criticism of her cooking."

It doesn't matter how they feel, allowing the Chantry to do it is wrong, period.

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And nobles shouldn't own serfs, but no one ever talks about that. At least, not for awhile.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Unfortunately for the elves, beards = instant respect.

Maybe they grow beards in other places


...

Go on...

Thicker than a dwarfs, and curly too

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almostinsane99 wrote...

And nobles shouldn't own serfs, but no one ever talks about that. At least, not for awhile.

Feel free to make a thread about it, if that's what you want to talk about.

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I don't know if there would be much discussion other than the merits of Thedas developing democracy at some point and whether it would detract from the game, which might be an interesting theoretical discussion, actually, so I might.

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I'm fine with having a system of some kind in place for the education and policing of mages. But the Chantry should never be in charge of it, and individual nations should have the freedom to devise the system that works best for them.


Agreed. 

Althought one might wonder if other institutions would be potentially more prohibitive.

Modifié par Lebdood, 30 novembre 2013 - 04:18 .


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Lebanese Dude

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mx_keep13 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Unfortunately for the elves, beards = instant respect.

Maybe they grow beards in other places


...

Go on...

Thicker than a dwarfs, and curly too


Huge unibrows then?

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Afro_Explosion

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Lebdood wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Unfortunately for the elves, beards = instant respect.

Maybe they grow beards in other places


...

Go on...

Thicker than a dwarfs, and curly too


Huge unibrows then?

Much lower but whatever floats your boat

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This thread is getting good.

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Time to get back on track:I also think we might have a number of elves converting to the qun whether to escape punishment for a crime or for general safety. Either way the qunari are getting some viddathari