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[Cainhurst Crow]

The fact that you were editing the mass effect wiki before makes me now doubt everything on that site.

[ParkBom]

dreamgazer wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

who cares

[Nightwriter]

[Zatche]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

who cares

[trenq]

Zatche wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

who cares

[Erez Kristal]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

The fact that you were editing the mass effect wiki before makes me now doubt everything on that site.

exactly. even if you attempted to deflect this issue to be a personal issue on me. the facts stay the same.
Wiki is edited by players who are sometimes feed by writers who ignored the players potential timelines and only focused on one timeline which could be separated from the games yet call that time disconnected timeline the only one.

Reading the wiki could be a great source of information but the accuracy of the information should regarded with care and suspicion.

The only true timeline for mass effect is your timeline and what you know.

Which is why its quite likely that walters comics wont fit in most of the players here, timelines and thus are irrelevant to your shepard story. making mass effect 3 which is based on those comics a glorious fan fic...

[KaiserShep]

In the words of the late Steve Jobs:

"It's not a big deal."

[andy6915]

Arrival canonically takes place after ME2, as the last thing Shepard does before getting put into lockdown. At least a month or 2 pass after the suicide mission, most of that probably getting the Normandy repaired and taking party members back home now that the job is over and maybe doing some N7 assignments. Yes you can do it earlier in the main game, but you are in fact screwing up the timeline to do so.

[Argentoid]

trenq wrote...

Zatche wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

who cares

Modifié par Argentoid, 01 décembre 2013 - 07:49 .

[SilJeff]

Argentoid wrote...

trenq wrote...

Zatche wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

who cares

[KaiserShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

Hell, Walters wrote a comic canonizing Shepard as the one responsible for the Alpha relay explosion (canonized an Arrival purchase/playthrough, that is). Disagreements on timelines are a small thing in comparison. Shepard, no matter what, commited genocide in a pointless DLC, just so he can sit around in an Alliance bedroom enjoying the "warm food" and "soft beds" for 6 months.

Eh, I wouldn't really define it as genocide, as the killing of the batarians themselves is not deliberate. Anyway, the batarians sure get the short end of the stick in the series. We see nothing but criminals, mercs, terrorists etc., and then thousands of innocent civilians end up as part of the collateral damage.

[Erez Kristal]

andy69156915 wrote...

Arrival canonically takes place after ME2, as the last thing Shepard does before getting put into lockdown. At least a month or 2 pass after the suicide mission, most of that probably getting the Normandy repaired and taking party members back home now that the job is over and maybe doing some N7 assignments. Yes you can do it earlier in the main game, but you are in fact screwing up the timeline to do so.

Exactly. playing arrival when you think it fits best isn't taken under consideration. your timeline as a player is broken.
more so you are railroaded into trial and warm beds for six months. which is quite a problem on its own. both the railroad and the lack of consequences to the arrival mission.

[Fixers0]

Nothing new, really.

[KaiserShep]

erezike wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Arrival canonically takes place after ME2, as the last thing Shepard does before getting put into lockdown. At least a month or 2 pass after the suicide mission, most of that probably getting the Normandy repaired and taking party members back home now that the job is over and maybe doing some N7 assignments. Yes you can do it earlier in the main game, but you are in fact screwing up the timeline to do so.

Exactly. playing arrival when you think it fits best isn't taken under consideration. your timeline as a player is broken.
more so you are railroaded into trial and warm beds for six months. which is quite a problem on its own. both the railroad and the lack of consequences to the arrival mission.

What does it matter really if the canon timeline doesn't mesh with those of the players? This strikes me as a particularly tiny quibble. Considering that many players would no doubt have multiple versions for multiple Shepards, I doubt most people even have much reason to care what the books or comics establish regarding the order of events.

What consequences should we see from Arrival?

[JasonShepard]

A slight shift of perspective here. People keep referring to the comics and books as a "canon" timeline. I don't see it that way. The extra material is just Bioware's timeline - which matches up just fine in most cases, but does mildly disagree for some specific playthroughs.

Bioware have said in the past that your Shepard is canon - for you. So if a bit of Bioware's extra material disagrees with your playthrough, the logical conclusion is... That bit of extra material, which people here are referring to as 'canon', is actually non-canon for that playthrough.

[JamesFaith]

JasonShepard wrote...

A slight shift of perspective here. People keep referring to the comics and books as a "canon" timeline. I don't see it that way. The extra material is just Bioware's timeline - which matches up just fine in most cases, but does mildly disagree for some specific playthroughs.

Bioware have said in the past that your Shepard is canon - for you. So if a bit of Bioware's extra material disagrees with your playthrough, the logical conclusion is... That bit of extra material, which people here are referring to as 'canon', is actually non-canon for that playthrough.

Good said.

When BW is trying to avoid major decisions, these small details are part of their cannon, so "corrections" of Wiki based on personal playthroughs and subjective interpretations of vague sentences are more forcing of personal cannon to others then corrections.

[AlanC9]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

The fact that you were editing the mass effect wiki before makes me now doubt everything on that site.

It's OK. Someone will edit it back if it's wrong.

[essarr71]

erezike wrote...

Exactly. playing arrival when you think it fits best isn't taken under consideration. your timeline as a player is broken.
more so you are railroaded into trial and warm beds for six months. which is quite a problem on its own. both the railroad and the lack of consequences to the arrival mission.

Complains that events aren't railroaded so timeline can be off... then complains that you're railroaded into events in the timeline.

Modifié par essarr71, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:50 .

[Linkenski]

Look at us grasping at straws reaching to find yet another way to criticise the one who "ruined our lives" Mac F-ing Walters. C'mon, it's not so bad.

[Argentoid]

Linkenski wrote...

Look at us grasping at straws reaching to find yet another way to criticise the one who "ruined our lives" Mac F-ing Walters. C'mon, it's not so bad.

He must be a nice guy. I'd like to meet him.

[Erez Kristal]

essarr71 wrote...

erezike wrote...

Exactly. playing arrival when you think it fits best isn't taken under consideration. your timeline as a player is broken.
more so you are railroaded into trial and warm beds for six months. which is quite a problem on its own. both the railroad and the lack of consequences to the arrival mission.

Complains that events aren't railroaded so timeline can be off... then complains that you're railroaded into events in the timeline.

That's not what I said. I like it the ability to choose my timeline for my own. my complaint is that the events in the comics and me3 were detached from personals timelines, the comics and me3 are an AU for many players. since they don't follow many players timelines.(or choices for that matter)

The comics loses credibility when they ignore players timelines and force players into decisions which are out of character for their players shepard.

Modifié par erezike, 02 décembre 2013 - 04:01 .