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[Statichands]

 The races of the mass effect universe are so advanced. Why is it that Ceberus are the only ones who used mechs? Imagine how much damage one alliance mech could do. Imagine a seings mechs like this 

http://static4.wikia...DLC3screen1.jpg

I think it would be more effencient in the military and it would save a lot of lives. 

Modifié par Zarble, 30 novembre 2013 - 01:25 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Dunno, maybe because they realised that giant bipedal robots are the least effective way to build heavy armour?
Maybe they are happy with the automated YMIR mechs? Maybe they can't copy them (according to the codex the transparent canopy is some propitiatory Cerberus material sciences magic)?
Maybe the game would have been too easy if Shepard could deploy a squad of mechs for every mission?

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 30 novembre 2013 - 01:59 .

[samurai crusade]

As much as I love mobile suits. They are not practical. They would cost as much as fighter jet. They'd have the firepower capabilities of the already established gunships or hammerheads. They would require drops from a frigate and an element zero core to decelerate or get back into the ship (already done by the Mako).

They are highly vulnerable.... Shepards 3 man team took out several Cerberus mechs. And foot soldiers are more mobile, stealthy, and maneuverable. No, there will always be a place for ground troops. Mechs just don't seem cost effective. (Oh and AI sabatage)

[AlexMBrennan]

They would require drops from a frigate

Why? Can you defeat a mech by trapping it on a high tower because it can only jump out of frigates?

Shepards 3 man team took out several Cerberus mechs

Shepard also took out several tanks, gunships, bunkers, Reaper capital ships and endless hordes of infantry, so by the same logic none of these things should be used.

[Siegdrifa]

It's an artistic direction.
While it make sens for most of advanced races to build mechs like Atlas, it could turn like "MechWarrior" instead of Mass Effect.

Also, from a designer point of view, unless your project focus on certain aspect (such as MechWarrior, front mission etc) you can't translate every existing technologie for every races; it takes too much times, reduce the contrast of identity among races and do not always serve the plot well.

[Statichands]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Dunno, maybe because they realised that giant bipedal robots are the least effective way to build heavy armour?
Maybe they are happy with the automated YMIR mechs? Maybe they can't copy them (according to the codex the transparent canopy is some propitiatory Cerberus material sciences magic)?
Maybe the game would have been too easy if Shepard could deploy a squad of mechs for every mission?

Or maybe bioware only came up with the idea after mass effect 2

[AlexMBrennan]

Or maybe bioware only came up with the idea after mass effect 2

Sorry, what? We never really see Alliance ground forces until ME3, and the question is why the Alliance/turian/asari/salerian military don't use mechs - for example, the Alliance could have dropped Atlas mechs from orbit in Priority: Earth to take out anti-air defences rather than shuttles that would predictably get shot down.

[samurai crusade]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

They would require drops from a frigate

Why? Can you defeat a mech by trapping it on a high tower because it can only jump out of frigates?

Shepards 3 man team took out several Cerberus mechs

Shepard also took out several tanks, gunships, bunkers, Reaper capital ships and endless hordes of infantry, so by the same logic none of these things should be used.

i was simply suggesting those roles have already been filled.   No need to fly in mechs to uncharted worlds when you have a mako.   No need to waste money and resources on a niche market when already proven and established vehicles exist

[SwobyJ]

Cerberus may not even have that many. Here's where they're deployed:

-Sur'kesh
-Eden Prime
-Tuchanka
-Grissom Academy
-Citadel Coup
-Ex-Cerberus Scientists (a Cerberus base itself, kinda)
-Cronos Station (a Cerberus base itself)
-Omega (a Cerberus base itself, kinda)
-maybe some N7 side areas

I don't count MP here because it's just a hordefest.

That's not *that* many locations. Half of them are the most major major events of the game.

Cerberus looks for the most part, like it throws as much money and resources towards SPECIFIC things, rather than a rounded out strategy of many things. They're not out for conquering the galaxy with their own army, but to make more precision strikes to co-opt the existing ones for their own use. Because there is a war, they do need an army, but it's not one that would sweep over planets like the krogan would have.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number of Atlas mechs numbers only into the dozens, low hundreds at the very very very most.

I'm sure we'll see more and more mechs in Mass Effect, but this is a dire war for the Alliance and they're probably scrambling to use whatever they already got. I headcanon YMYR mechs being used though.

[SwobyJ]

samurai crusade wrote...

As much as I love mobile suits. They are not practical. They would cost as much as fighter jet. They'd have the firepower capabilities of the already established gunships or hammerheads. They would require drops from a frigate and an element zero core to decelerate or get back into the ship (already done by the Mako).

They are highly vulnerable.... Shepards 3 man team took out several Cerberus mechs. And foot soldiers are more mobile, stealthy, and maneuverable. No, there will always be a place for ground troops. Mechs just don't seem cost effective. (Oh and AI sabatage)

A mech's place is to back up the presence of existing forces. Cerberus seems to like to get to a place, secure it tightly, and get the objective done, then GTFO (with exceptions like Omega). Compare that to the N7 MP we do, where we're scrambling with a united galactic force to secure but KEEP locations going. We want our future, but TIM wants to give up a future to Reaper tech. Different priorities.

Alliance having mechs isn't out of the question, but I would never expect them to be super common. I'm honestly one of those who wasn't surprised at Cerberus indoctrinating people for an army and using lots of mechs in ME3 though.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 30 novembre 2013 - 11:28 .

[Zeju]

Pacific Effect, starring Shepard Danger, co-starring Garrus Eureka.

Do it.

[Display Name Owner]

They might well do. It's not like Shepard actually spent any time on the battlefront, we were doing more special background stuff in the kind of places the militaries would have no reason to deploy any mechs they may have. IIRC mechs are only really used for security rather than offensive combat, except by mercs who use whatever they can to blow stuff up wherever, so it all makes sense that we wouldn't see any imo. Actual people are probably more effective than mechs in most situations.

Also, Cerberus are the only ones who ever invent anything apparently.

[Han Shot First]

Because tanks > mechs

Mechs are common in many Sci Fi series, but in reality they don't make a lot of sense. They are not pragmatic at all.