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Why don't Quarians wear armor?


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It's never made sense to me. Yes they need to wear their suits to not die, but that doesn't stop them from putting armor plates on them. Nothing about the suit stops them from being able to make specialty combat suits that have the enviro suit covered in thick armor plates. Think Issac's suit in Dead Space, it starts off as nothing but a thin
fabric suit but gets more and more rivets of metal for armor with each
new suit level. Why can't the Quarians do that with their suits? Even if they couldn't get full coverage of the suit with the armor, it would still protect them by making the vulnerable areas smaller targets that have less chance of getting hit. Some coverage of armor is better then none. Think about how many Quarians could have been saved if Quarians had done this. Badass Kal Reeger died because of a suit puncture, a suit puncture that armor plating might have saved his life from. When a single shot can kill you because of infection, it becomes really importat to cover as much of your enviro suit as possible. They've had 2 centures to perfect their suit tech, they couldn't find some way to make their front line soldiers wear anything better then cotton thin suits?

So is it that Quarians can't find any way at all to line their suit with armor or make an armor that has a built in enviro suit as the under armor, or are Quarians just so spectacularly weak that even just a little bit of true armor is too heavy for them? Both seem highly unlikely.

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They do. All of Tali's AA are armored.

The reason the other quarians don't is because it requires time and money to render a new quarian model.

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No Tali's is not armored. They do have a defense rating, but that is mostly gameplay. The canon shows that a single round WILL pierce the suit, this is why they have extraordinarily strong shield generators built in. Their shields are very strong (Tali has the highest shield rating in ME1), but anything that gets past their shields is fatal (Tali also has some of the lowest health and damage Resistance in ME1). There's no actual armor plating on any Quarian suit in the series, and Quarian suits visibly have less armor than even ME1 light armor.

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andy69156915 wrote...

No Tali's is not armored. They do have a defense rating, but that is mostly gameplay. The canon shows that a single round WILL pierce the suit, this is why they have extraordinarily strong shield generators built in. Their shields are very strong (Tali has the highest shield rating in ME1), but anything that gets past their shields is fatal (Tali also has some of the lowest health and damage Resistance in ME1). There's no actual armor plating on any Quarian suit in the series, and Quarian suits visibly have less armor than even ME1 light armor.


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All armored.

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That looks like cloth, like all Quarian suits. Even the hardest looking stuff just looks like smooth but soft material. Her default outfit looks about as thick and durable as those. Hell, the first pic IS her default, it's just recolored-

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Well...

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For example, wouldn't something like the one on the far right of this be feasible?

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Tali's outfits were considered light armor in ME1

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I guess they prefer to have light armor to be quicker.



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Modifié par trenq, 01 décembre 2013 - 03:33 .


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We're told they avoid ground combat due to their "health" issues. Though a few of them have voluntered for it for the sake of the fleet.... Kal'Reegar. Who died due to said health problems.

But they are capable of carrying some Turians and Krogans in their shuttles and transports to the fight so it works out in the end.

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I suppose the existence of the geth turned the quarians off to the possibility of exploring telepresence for combat, like surrogate robot bodies that they control from the live ships.

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they also have Kinetic Barriers what makes armor kind of pointless

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As was pointed out, Tali does wear hard armor. The plated looking armor is most likely made of ceramic like everyone else's; that definitely is not cloth, so at least she's smart enough to go into battle protected properly. As for the others... I don't know, their suits probably all serve as light armor (Tali's civilian suit was classified as such, and actually superior to standard Alliance light armor), and they're not too concerned with going beyond that, relying primarily on kinetic barriers.

Modifié par RandomGuy96, 04 décembre 2013 - 04:55 .


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The hexagonal designs are supposed to be armor. To be perfectly honest, having metal armor is less realistic. We don't run around in metal these days for a reason: kevlar stops bullets far better than plate-mail.

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Ceramic and steel plates can stop modern rifle bullets, while no soft armor (which includes kevlar) can. Steel plates are still fairly popular even though most militaries use ceramic for their rifle-resistant armor. The codex specifies ME armor as being ceramic.

Modifié par RandomGuy96, 04 décembre 2013 - 04:56 .


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Yet Miranda's catsuit had amazing armor.


In before... here we go.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 04 décembre 2013 - 05:42 .


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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Yet Miranda's catsuit had amazing armor.


In before... here we go.

Always makes me stand at attention

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First of all, the only quarians we actually see in battle are Reeger, Tali, and a few other nobodies. Not everyone wears armor around for no reason.

Modifié par David7204, 04 décembre 2013 - 06:04 .


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David7204 wrote...

First of all, the only quarians we actually see in battle are Reeger, Tali, and a few other nobodies. Not everyone wears armor around for no reason.

Got a good reason why Reegar wouldn't be wearing armor?

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Numerous reasons. In any case, as people have pointed out, is it even established that what Reeger is wearing isn't armor?

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David7204 wrote...

Numerous reasons. In any case, as people have pointed out, is it even established that what Reeger is wearing isn't armor?

Tell me, why is the soldier who is knowingly dropping onto a geth world not wearing anymore armor than admirals at a trial?

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Are you magically able to divine what Reeger's suit and undersuit are made of, Steelcan? And the suits of the admirals?

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I don't know buddy, why doesn't jacob or miranda wear armor? Or mordin? thane? jack? samara? mornith? liara? etc?

Not that it matters, since all it takes is a single bullet to the gut to kill every squadmate in ME2, no matter how much armor they have.

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David7204 wrote...

Are you magically able to divine what Reeger's suit and undersuit are made of, Steelcan? And the suits of the admirals?

they look pretty similar to me just changed the colors, and for some reason I don't think that the notoriously fragile quarians would skimp on the armor