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[Dave of Canada]

Mass Effect 1 had repetitive worlds with poor visual landscapes but great sidequests and semi-coherent writing.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 tried to give decent landscapes but removed nearly all writing from sidequests and the writing was incapable of following itself.

Any attempt of graphics whatsoever means poor writing.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 05 décembre 2013 - 04:59 .

[dreamgazer]

Greylycantrope wrote...

I only hate 3.

I dislike things about all three, yet still find plenty of enjoyment in them.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 05 décembre 2013 - 05:00 .

[AresKeith]

dreamgazer wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I only hate 3.

I dislike things about all three, yet still find plenty of enjoyment in them.

Posting a gif of THAT Batman

Get out

[Dave of Canada]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Not you too, Dave...

Is there fault with my logic? I'm pretty sure it's soundproof.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 05 décembre 2013 - 05:05 .

[Br3admax]

AresKeith wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I only hate 3.

I dislike things about all three, yet still find plenty of enjoyment in them.

Posting a gif of THAT Batman

Get out

Dumbest Batman of them all, tbh.  

[dreamgazer]

Br3ad wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I only hate 3.

I dislike things about all three, yet still find plenty of enjoyment in them.

Posting a gif of THAT Batman

Get out

Dumbest Batman of them all, tbh.  

Bah.  The series had its rough spots later on, but the first season and Return of the Joker are plenty solid. 

[GreyLycanTrope]

dreamgazer wrote...
I dislike things about all three, yet still find plenty of enjoyment in them.

Fite me IRL!
I can say the same of the first two, 3 just had way more things I didn't like to the point were it was no longer enjoyable.

The rest of you need to show Batman Beyond some respect.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 05 décembre 2013 - 05:37 .

[Br3admax]

dreamgazer wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I only hate 3.

I dislike things about all three, yet still find plenty of enjoyment in them.

Posting a gif of THAT Batman

Get out

Dumbest Batman of them all, tbh.  

Bah.  The series had its rough spots later on, but the first season and Return of the Joker are plenty solid. 

Who would have thought that a bloody tissue would create a hero?(seriously, dumb as hell.) 

[Sylvius the Mad]

Il Divo wrote...

With Mass Effect, it felt like Bioware borrowed all the wrong elements from Baldur's Gate 1.

Those elements were the best part of ME.

Their lack diminished the sequel tremendously.

[Bizantura]

Is not TV that box that gives story without gameplay? Why are so many asking for that in a computer or console game. Every bit of creativity really has to be thrown out of the window for shallow short adrenaline rush thingie and mostly with those dreadfull zombies too!!!!

[Cainhurst Crow]

One day they're going to make a game with graphics that are too good, and it'll have the same effect on people as the ark of the covenant in raiders.

[esper]

spirosz wrote...

esper wrote...

I must admit I don't like the walking dead or the last of us

 

You just broke my heart.  

(Applies band aid to heart)

It is just not my genre, I think.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

One day they're going to make a game with graphics that are too good, and it'll have the same effect on people as the ark of the covenant in raiders.

My God...that is.... that is...

[Ravensword]

You know, Seival, I just noticed something: your opinions on the game B:TS aren't even your own; it's mostly just a regurgitation of David Cage's talking points.

This is a very predictable. You've shown that you care more about graphics above all else and whether or not the game is mo-capped by well known actors. I bet that in five years when you do another one of your "Best Game Ever" threads, we'll likely be seeing you referring to games like B:TS and TLoU as "old games [that] can cause nothing but a silly smile" b/c of the fact that "they are too old and outdated on all possible levels" compared to whatever game w/ the shiniest graphics you're gushing over in five years.

[Ravensword]

simfamSP wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

You know, Seival, I just noticed something: your opinions on the game B:TS aren't even your own; it's mostly just a regurgitation of David Cage's talking points.

This is a very predictable. You've shown that you care more about graphics above all else and whether or not the game is mo-capped by well known actors. I bet that in five years when you do another one of your "Best Game Ever" threads, we'll likely be seeing you referring to games like B:TS and TLoU as "old games [that] can cause nothing but a silly smile" b/c of the fact that "they are too old and outdated on all possible levels" compared to whatever game w/ the shiniest graphics you're gushing over in five years.

What the hell is the Clique?!

We're a nefarious forum cult.

[addiction21]

simfamSP wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Too bad anyone of those "tens of characters" from a BioWare game curbstomp your Last of Us characters.

Not sure if ignorant or just a massive Biodrone.

Probably hasn't played it.

I have played it and liked it just not so impressed by it.

But go ahead with the assumptions or insults if it makes either you feel better

[Ravensword]

And another thing, Seival, you want a medium w/ great graphics and notable actors? Why don't you go watch TV or movies? Just look how realistic a TV or movie is nowadays. No mo-cap required, mang, b/c it's just that damned good (and redundant). And the graphics? Forget about it, homes. Get a Netflix account (you can access Netflix on your PS3) and be prepared to be blown away by an endless selection of films and TV series w/ breathtaking graphics that are to die for. Video games don't hold a candle to TV or film and they won't be able to do sue for likely decades if not centuries, I tell you.

Now you might be a little concerned over the lack of gameplay w/ TV shows and movies, but have no fear; that is totally not a problem. The reason is that if you enjoyed B:TS, a game that is comprised mostly of cutscenes and "gameplay" where you can put the controller down and still win. You're pretty much 90% there, homie. When you've found a movie or TV show you watch, you just hit he X button on your PS3 controller, put down the controller, and watch all the action unfold and the emotions overtake you. You'll probably end up creating a thread w/ the title "Avengers is the Greatest Video Game Ever" and everyone will be like, "No, that's not even a video game," but **** them b/c they don't know what you know. You're mother****ing Seival, vato!

Из этого мира, товарищ.

[wolfhowwl]

Seival wrote...

DA:I is going to be a good next-gen game. So, let's not judge the game by pre-alfa based videos, and hope for the following things in release:

 - Best possible facial motion capture for all facial expressions and talking.
 - Best possible gestures/move/attack motion capture, and as many variants of all of that as possible.
 - Best possible motion captured sequences for all dialogue scenes and cut-scenes.

In a next-gen game characters shouldn't look like or act like a dolls. A lot of good actors' work can make them truly alive.

I'm not talking about turning DA:I into an interactive movie. But visual quality of the same level as in The Last of Us, for example, is simply required for a next-gen game. Even if it's an RPG with much larger amount of dialogues and cutscenes.

But Seival, TLoU is running on the PS3's ancient hardware. That is an awfully low bar to be setting for a "next gen game," but if that is your standard I can happily report that DA:I and the Frostbite 3 engine will likely easily exceed it.

I am also curious as to why TLoU is your next gen measuring stick when there are many PC games that came out before it and slaughter it in the graphics department.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 05 décembre 2013 - 10:32 .

[Seival]

addiction21 wrote...

Seival wrote...


Good question. And imagine, that instead of creating those excess things, devs could spend more time to improve main plot and the characters...

What you seem to be arguing is they not only strip out those side missions but also strip out all the options in how to develop the charcter in the main story for some shiny things. Take out what brings people to the BIoWare label for some MoCap and shiny graphics.

Sacrifice depth for superficial bs.

Not all the options. Only the excess ones. DA:I will never become B:TS. But it still can use much more improvements in visual part regarding the characters performance quality in cost of some things that are not needed for good storytelling and modern RPG game in general.

In short - less feature creep, more production quality, please. This is all I'm asking for here. This is a quite fair request for a AAA game.

[Seival]

hhh89 wrote...

@Seival: I guess you'll be disappointed if the next ME game will have a lot more exploration with a Mako-type of vehicle, right?

Definitely.