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[Rawgrim]

General TSAR wrote...

Seival wrote...

If it has RPG element(s), then yes.

That's one for the archives. 

Best use the hidden archives. Some things should be kept away from the public eye, for their own protection.

[General TSAR]

You can make the paddles go up or down in Pong.

Therefore, Pong, is a role-playing game.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

So does that mean if a game has a driving section, it's a racing game?

Or if there's a game where you shoot stuff, it's a first person shooter?

Or if there's a game where you need jump, it's a platform game?

If not then why is it that those games all have 1 element in them and aren't considered part of those genres, but a game with only 1 rpg element is an rpg game?

[Rawgrim]

General TSAR wrote...

You can make the paddles go up or down in Pong.

Therefore, Pong, is a role-playing game.

 You can buy a Nug in DA:O. That makes it a farming-sim.

[The Night Mammoth]

Go and play Ryse, or God of War, Seival. They seem to be exactly what you're looking for. Dragon Age but without all the supposedly unnecessary side stuff.

[General TSAR]

You can pilot a sub in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Submarine Simulator.

You can shoot people in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Shooter.

You can spy on Adult Jodie in the shower in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Peeping Tom Simulator.

Modifié par General TSAR, 06 décembre 2013 - 10:21 .

[ruggly]

I can decide where to move the blocks in tetris, does that make it an RPG as well?

[happy_daiz]

Rawgrim wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

You can make the paddles go up or down in Pong.

Therefore, Pong, is a role-playing game.

 You can buy a Nug in DA:O. That makes it a farming-sim.

You can buy a nug plushie in real life.

Oh, and since Fallout New Vegas has lots of pots, pans, ovens, refrigerators, and eating utensils in it, it must be a cooking sim.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 06 décembre 2013 - 10:22 .

[The Flying Grey Warden]

J. Reezy wrote...

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

Sevial, i've heard your explanation. You don't want a story driven game.

Oh no, don't get it twisted, Seival wants a story-driven game. What he doesn't want is an RPG.

No. They don't want a story driven game. They want a story driven movie, with as little elements of a game as possible so that there is only the story being told to a mostly passive audience, who are really there to continuously hit the play button and watch it unfold beautifully on the screen.

[dreamgazer]

General TSAR wrote...

You can spy on Adult Jodie in the shower in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Peeping Tom Simulator.

I don't think anyone's going to dispute that one, to be honest.

[Seival]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Seival wrote...

And if a game has at least one RPG element - it is an RPG game.

That is an absurd definition that renders the label effectively meaningless.

Any game developer would disagree with you.

Let's look at Remember Me game, for example. It has RPG element. Very tiny, but still. I can't call the game just a heavily story-driven action. I call it heavily story-driven action-RPG game.

I don't want such strong action bias for DA:I, but DA:I would be much better heavily story-driven RPG game without half of planned RPG features and time consumers.

[Rawgrim]

Batman drives the Batwing in some scenes in Arkham Origins. I guess that game is a simulator game now. Batman: Arkham Origins - the new aircraft simulator.

[dreamgazer]

(laughs)

Remember Me is kinda underrated, but the label of "RPG" shouldn't come anywhere near it.

[Rawgrim]

Seival wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Seival wrote...

And if a game has at least one RPG element - it is an RPG game.

That is an absurd definition that renders the label effectively meaningless.

Any game developer would disagree with you.

Let's look at Remember Me game, for example. It has RPG element. Very tiny, but still. I can't call the game just a heavily story-driven action. I call it heavily story-driven action-RPG game.

I don't want such strong action bias for DA:I, but DA:I would be much better heavily story-driven RPG game without half of planned RPG features and time consumers.

 Do you get to create your own character in it? No? Not an rpg then. Just because you play as someone, it is not the same as roleplaying.

[Seival]

dreamgazer wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

You can spy on Adult Jodie in the shower in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Peeping Tom Simulator.

I don't think anyone's going to dispute that one, to be honest.

Should I remind you all those "mature scenes" from Dragon Age and Mass Effect series?

[dreamgazer]

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

You can spy on Adult Jodie in the shower in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Peeping Tom Simulator.

I don't think anyone's going to dispute that one, to be honest.

Should I remind you all those "mature scenes" from Dragon Age and Mass Effect series?

Should I remind you of the recurring interactive shower scenes in Cage's work? 

[AresKeith]

dreamgazer wrote...

(laughs)

Remember Me is kinda underrated, but the label of "RPG" shouldn't come anywhere near it.

This

[Rawgrim]

Lets say you bake a chocolate cake. Someone puts a tiny bit of shrimp in it. This doesn`t change the entire cake into a seafood dish. Its still 99.9 chocolate cake, that tiny shrimp piece doesn`t change the entire product to its "favor". Same with rpgs. Just because you can buy something in the game, doesn`t make the game an rpg, when everything else in it is just action with zero rpg elements. The biggest part is what defines the game.

[Seival]

Rawgrim wrote...

Seival wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Seival wrote...

And if a game has at least one RPG element - it is an RPG game.

That is an absurd definition that renders the label effectively meaningless.

Any game developer would disagree with you.

Let's look at Remember Me game, for example. It has RPG element. Very tiny, but still. I can't call the game just a heavily story-driven action. I call it heavily story-driven action-RPG game.

I don't want such strong action bias for DA:I, but DA:I would be much better heavily story-driven RPG game without half of planned RPG features and time consumers.

 Do you get to create your own character in it? No? Not an rpg then. Just because you play as someone, it is not the same as roleplaying.

So, Witcher and Witcher 2 (and upcoming Witcher 3 by the way) are not RPGs just because they do not have a character generator?... I wonder how soon will some of BioWare pop-up here and explain that RPG doesn't have to have all possible RPG features to be called RPG.

[Rawgrim]

Seival wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Seival wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Seival wrote...

And if a game has at least one RPG element - it is an RPG game.

That is an absurd definition that renders the label effectively meaningless.

Any game developer would disagree with you.

Let's look at Remember Me game, for example. It has RPG element. Very tiny, but still. I can't call the game just a heavily story-driven action. I call it heavily story-driven action-RPG game.

I don't want such strong action bias for DA:I, but DA:I would be much better heavily story-driven RPG game without half of planned RPG features and time consumers.

 Do you get to create your own character in it? No? Not an rpg then. Just because you play as someone, it is not the same as roleplaying.

So, Witcher and Witcher 2 (and upcoming Witcher 3 by the way) are not RPGs just because they do not have a character generator?... I wonder how soon will some of BioWare pop-up here and explain that RPG doesn't have to have all possible RPG features to be called RPG.

Check my post above the one I quoted just now.

[Seival]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

You can spy on Adult Jodie in the shower in Beyond 2 Souls, that makes it a Peeping Tom Simulator.

I don't think anyone's going to dispute that one, to be honest.

Should I remind you all those "mature scenes" from Dragon Age and Mass Effect series?

Should I remind you of the recurring interactive shower scenes in Cage's work? 

Should I remind you how poorly executed and recurring are non-interactive "mature scenes" in Dragon Age and Mass Effect series?

[CynicalShep]

Some of my favorite games are racing games. KOTOR and KOTOR 2 spring to mind.