Steelcan wrote...
thats not fair, it isnt always himRavensword wrote...
Whenever I see my feed blow up w/ several users posting in the same forum, I figure it's b/c David is online sharing whatever bits of wisdom he's managed to pull out of his ass of late.
David7204 wrote...
You seem to have less and less to contribute every time I see you post, dreamgazer.
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That's...wrong. Fire Emblem series says hiSilcron wrote...
No point in judging an rpg focusing on gameplay and graphics or a sports game focusing on its story.
ThisOnesUsername wrote...
But it did sell, that is the travesty here.Nonoru wrote...
Seival wrote...
They can decrease the planned amount of cut-scenes and dialogues to make the rest look much better. It's not too late yet. They are still on the early stage of development.
So you want another FFXIII? You can truly tell it sold so well.
Modifié par Nonoru, 03 décembre 2013 - 02:44 .
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Nonoru wrote...
ThisOnesUsername wrote...
But it did sell, that is the travesty here.Nonoru wrote...
Seival wrote...
They can decrease the planned amount of cut-scenes and dialogues to make the rest look much better. It's not too late yet. They are still on the early stage of development.
So you want another FFXIII? You can truly tell it sold so well.
In japan. Watch the sales over the world. Numbers should be way higher for such a costy production.
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Seival wrote...
EntropicAngel wrote...
Seival wrote...
But please, don't expect BioWare to return to oldschool even a little. DA:I will obviously be a AAA modern game, not a DA:O or Baldur's Gate revamp.
Is that why Bioware has returned the tactical camera? Is that why Bioware removed level scaling? Is that why Bioware removed total health regen?
I'm not sure you know the game you're talking about.
You listed the features that any game can use.
Remember Me, for example:
- Health isn't regenerating automatically, so you have to use your skills to keep your character alive.
- Your character isn't becoming overpowered while progressing through the game.
- You can place game on "pause" to open the abilities menu and think about current combat situation to figure out what should you do next.
And Remember Me is a great modern AAA heavily story-driven game, not some old-school boredom.
EntropicAngel wrote...
Nonoru wrote...
ThisOnesUsername wrote...
But it did sell, that is the travesty here.Nonoru wrote...
Seival wrote...
They can decrease the planned amount of cut-scenes and dialogues to make the rest look much better. It's not too late yet. They are still on the early stage of development.
So you want another FFXIII? You can truly tell it sold so well.
In japan. Watch the sales over the world. Numbers should be way higher for such a costy production.
Your point doesn't make any sense compared to Sieval's statement. like, at all.
Like, at all. Give a guess at how many hours of cutscenes there are in FF XIII.
Including the credits, it's just over seven hours. Seven hours of cutscenes alone. Square Enix didn't "decrease" any type of cutscenes. They made an 80 hour game that happens to have seven hours of cutscenes.
Sieval is suggesting Bioware make a five hour game so they can have mocap.
...sorry. My profile pic should say it all
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Nonoru wrote...
I'm talking about stripping off elements in order to increase visuals. Not that it is necessarily wrong in itself, but there's a point where you should set limits. FFXIII isn't per say a bad game either. It simply didn't have that RPG feel to it.(by my own standards, granted)
And Lightning is still a cool character regardless of my overall opinion of the game itself. x)
They also cost hundreds of millions.David7204 wrote...
We have all this supposed support for old school games with old school mechanics and look where they are: Panhandling for money over Kickstarter just to get a product out. And the majority will probably end up failing anyway. Meanwhile the AAA games with AAA graphics make hundreds of millions.
Of course they do. Alpha Centauri, one of the very best games ever made (in my opinion) was produced by a company that had a grand total of 17 employees, including the receptionist.David7204 wrote...
First of all, it's foolish to assume that smaller projects are going to have more passion. Secondly, it's foolish to assume smaller problems have more time devoted to them. In fact, pretty much by definition, smaller projects have fewer man-hours.
Roleplaying first.JCAP wrote...
RPG: Story first, visuals later!
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Roleplaying first.JCAP wrote...
RPG: Story first, visuals later!
Everything else later.
Because you're capabale of creating a character that catches your interest.Fortlowe wrote...
Intrigue first.
The game absolutely has to capture your interest or else why play it?
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Dakka first.Fortlowe wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Roleplaying first.JCAP wrote...
RPG: Story first, visuals later!
Everything else later.
Intrigue first.
The game absolutely has to capture your interest or else why play it?
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Because you're capabale of creating a character that catches your interest.Fortlowe wrote...
Intrigue first.
The game absolutely has to capture your interest or else why play it?
Modifié par Fortlowe, 03 décembre 2013 - 06:56 .
I disagree.Fortlowe wrote...
However the character isn't the game.
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Seival wrote...
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Your time has long since passed then sevial. Those modern games you praise so much, still use scripted dolls set into per-programed tracks of behavior with you just pressing a continue button repetitively.
What it sounds like you yearn for are the truly outdated wrecks that were full motion video games.
I see real actors work in modern AAA story-driven games. In cut scenes. In dialogues. In fully motion captured scenes and sequences. This makes me feel what they feel. What their characters feel. This makes the stories truly deep and exciting. This makes something that none of old-school games can make.
Yeah yeah, blah blah blah, your feelings.
Most of their "work" in the video games amounts to just giving their voice acting. They aren't doing the stunts, they aren't putting on the suits and doing the motions. It's someone else whose motions they capture and put over it while the actors lines and body model are put over it, like an over-glorified ventriloquist dummy.
In the end, that is all those new games are. Same scripted actions, Same dollesque motions. Only it's a better sound quality puppet, with a more limber doll.
Modifié par Seival, 03 décembre 2013 - 11:29 .
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I know you don't like Seival's arguments (understandable) but I think the folks over at Rockstar and people like Steven Ogg, Ned Luke, and Shawn Fonteno might disagree with what you think the AAA game is.Darth Brotarian wrote...
Seival wrote...
I see real actors work in modern AAA story-driven games. In cut scenes. In dialogues. In fully motion captured scenes and sequences. This makes me feel what they feel. What their characters feel. This makes the stories truly deep and exciting. This makes something that none of old-school games can make.
Yeah yeah, blah blah blah, your feelings.
Most of their "work" in the video games amounts to just giving their voice acting. They aren't doing the stunts, they aren't putting on the suits and doing the motions. It's someone else whose motions they capture and put over it while the actors lines and body model are put over it, like an over-glorified ventriloquist dummy.
In the end, that is all those new games are. Same scripted actions, Same dollesque motions. Only it's a better sound quality puppet, with a more limber doll.
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