So... alright, the first time I went through this I had to back up five hours because I assumed the reason Fenris's arm band wasn't showing was due to my lack of flirting with another companion(maybe-- think I forgot I had). And so, the last flirt option I had seen was hours before I finally set out and did Bitter Pill. I ended up going and flirting it up with Anders... and well, he kind of sucked face and invited himself to my house. Rejected him, he wished the best for me and the elven lunatic and went off. Four hours later(my mistake it seems)... Fenris's red band still doesn't show.
I've given him the book, did Questioning Belefs before Bitter Pill and everything. So.. where did I go wrong? I read that making Orana a servant can randomly cause it to end, so on the second go I payed her and just sent her off.
Also, maxxed Friendship with him.
Issues with the Fenris romance
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SomnolentLullaby
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 05:11
thats1evildude
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Let's be clear here: when Fenris came to your house after A Bitter Pill, did he leave immediately despite you picking the flirt options? Because that's when the romance actually starts.
I think the issue might have been flirting with Anders. The Andersmance is sort of an all-consuming black hole that supercedes all other romances in the game.
You might have some luck posing this question in the Fenris thread.
I think the issue might have been flirting with Anders. The Andersmance is sort of an all-consuming black hole that supercedes all other romances in the game.
You might have some luck posing this question in the Fenris thread.
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 05:54
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Nope.. he stayed the night there and the conversation about his memories suddenly coming back came rushing to him, ect. I'll try posting it over there, thanks for that.
And sweet. If it really is flirting with Anders that did it, my life is crap. I knew you needed to flirt with at least one other companion before that point so I chose him.. and the fact he sucked face with me kind of made me think I flirted with him in Act 1, and like I said, just forgot. Read that getting close to Isabella can royally screw things over itself, and I don't care for Merrill too much... so beh. I'll try this again >_>;;....
And sweet. If it really is flirting with Anders that did it, my life is crap. I knew you needed to flirt with at least one other companion before that point so I chose him.. and the fact he sucked face with me kind of made me think I flirted with him in Act 1, and like I said, just forgot. Read that getting close to Isabella can royally screw things over itself, and I don't care for Merrill too much... so beh. I'll try this again >_>;;....
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 07:39
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I'm not sure about the "flirting with one other companion" part. Like I said, it might be best to ask about this in the Fenris thread.
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 08:07
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Hmmm... Until now I was 100% sure you SHOULD NOT flirt with anyone if you plan to romance Fenris. He is very sensitive about it.
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 08:12
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Amirit wrote...
Hmmm... Until now I was 100% sure you SHOULD NOT flirt with anyone if you plan to romance Fenris. He is very sensitive about it.
That was my understanding as well.
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 10:07
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Assuming no random bug/glitch (like the Orana one, for example), here are the "general" rules for romancing Fenris:
1) You CAN flirt with anyone in Act 1. I have never personally known anyone who had the Fenris romance "bork" because of that alone. I myself, have had Hawkes that flirted with just about everyone, in Act.1, and still ended up with Fenris without a hitch. However, if you attempt to romance him again, and are unsure where the problem came up, skipping the flirts in Act 1, for the other LI companions, may not be a bad idea. At least it could then be ruled out (or in...lol).
2) Act 2 can be problematic for flirting with other companions, but not necessarily "romance breaking" for Fenris. If all flirts have been taken BEFORE Fenris' QB, and you have ended any potential romance before his QB, you "should" be fine. HOWEVER....Isabella does often cause a problem. Her flag can stay "set" (this can happen when trying to romance Merrill, after being with Issy as well, as I understand it.). Now again, the key is making sure that all other LI's have been "dismissed" (romance-wise) before you do Fenris' Questioning Beliefs. The safest thing to do though is Don't Flirt (unless it is with Fen...heh!)!
3) The romance will not always trigger properly, if you try and do the QB after Bitter Pill. In some ways, I get that (since the aftermath of Bitter Pill "can" lead to the love scene immediately.....if that is the path you choose.) So as a safety precaution, do his QB before setting off with him out of town, to trigger Bitter Pill.
4) This one can be overlooked easily, and it is "sort of" a bug or glitch. (I use those terms loosely here.) When you get the "aftermath" scene, after the romance scene, when you get the second dialogue wheel, feel free to choose the (?), but the only other option from that wheel, that doesn't seem to BREAK the romance is choosing: "But I care about you."
More than one option provided there, should have been fine to choose, but it has been reported that the only line guaranteed not to end the relationship, is the "But I care about you." Again...investigative options are fine, but to close out that DW, choose the before mentioned line.
5) Once you have had the love scene (and you now see him sporting the red wrist band and crest), do NOT flirt with anyone. The only exception is Tallis, if you have the MotA DLC. She will not "break" an established romance.
6) Be sure you max out his Friendship/Rivalry (whichever path you chose), in Act 3, to trigger his last Questioning Belief. It should be available after Alone. This will give you the chance for the reunion, and will set you up for your final "kiss" at end game.
Hope this helps.
1) You CAN flirt with anyone in Act 1. I have never personally known anyone who had the Fenris romance "bork" because of that alone. I myself, have had Hawkes that flirted with just about everyone, in Act.1, and still ended up with Fenris without a hitch. However, if you attempt to romance him again, and are unsure where the problem came up, skipping the flirts in Act 1, for the other LI companions, may not be a bad idea. At least it could then be ruled out (or in...lol).
2) Act 2 can be problematic for flirting with other companions, but not necessarily "romance breaking" for Fenris. If all flirts have been taken BEFORE Fenris' QB, and you have ended any potential romance before his QB, you "should" be fine. HOWEVER....Isabella does often cause a problem. Her flag can stay "set" (this can happen when trying to romance Merrill, after being with Issy as well, as I understand it.). Now again, the key is making sure that all other LI's have been "dismissed" (romance-wise) before you do Fenris' Questioning Beliefs. The safest thing to do though is Don't Flirt (unless it is with Fen...heh!)!
3) The romance will not always trigger properly, if you try and do the QB after Bitter Pill. In some ways, I get that (since the aftermath of Bitter Pill "can" lead to the love scene immediately.....if that is the path you choose.) So as a safety precaution, do his QB before setting off with him out of town, to trigger Bitter Pill.
4) This one can be overlooked easily, and it is "sort of" a bug or glitch. (I use those terms loosely here.) When you get the "aftermath" scene, after the romance scene, when you get the second dialogue wheel, feel free to choose the (?), but the only other option from that wheel, that doesn't seem to BREAK the romance is choosing: "But I care about you."
More than one option provided there, should have been fine to choose, but it has been reported that the only line guaranteed not to end the relationship, is the "But I care about you." Again...investigative options are fine, but to close out that DW, choose the before mentioned line.
5) Once you have had the love scene (and you now see him sporting the red wrist band and crest), do NOT flirt with anyone. The only exception is Tallis, if you have the MotA DLC. She will not "break" an established romance.
6) Be sure you max out his Friendship/Rivalry (whichever path you chose), in Act 3, to trigger his last Questioning Belief. It should be available after Alone. This will give you the chance for the reunion, and will set you up for your final "kiss" at end game.
Hope this helps.
Modifié par coldwetn0se, 02 décembre 2013 - 10:07 .
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 10:58
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I'll try again tonight, and the reason I said that it was necessary to flirt with someone else at least once was due problems I also encountered when I'd first bought the game on 360. I'd also managed to screw that one over, and after I had flirted with another companion it fixed things and made the rest of the ride smooth. Assumed it would work again in the PC version.. perhaps not, and perhaps things just went too far with Anders.
Just about everything else you covered Cold, however, lines up to what I'd done though. It's weird that it's acting up like this.
Just about everything else you covered Cold, however, lines up to what I'd done though. It's weird that it's acting up like this.
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 11:00
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^If only there were a "like" button for posts!
I am betting it is #4. I thought of this immediately. Did you perhaps select "So you're ending it?"? Since you did sleep with him, but he's not wearing the armband, it looks like you accidentally broke it off with him by selecting the non-flirt dialogue at the end of the "morning after" scene.
I am betting it is #4. I thought of this immediately. Did you perhaps select "So you're ending it?"? Since you did sleep with him, but he's not wearing the armband, it looks like you accidentally broke it off with him by selecting the non-flirt dialogue at the end of the "morning after" scene.
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Posté 02 décembre 2013 - 11:09
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"We can work through this." Is it, right? If so... clicked it. The last option I chose was "But I care about you." And that's when he walked off. I know the ending it option totally ruins everything.
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Posté 03 décembre 2013 - 12:14
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If everything is lining up, then I would say avoid doing any flirting (I have never heard of that hiccup before....needing to do a flirt with someone other than Fenris, in order to trigger his romance. That is interesting.) Beyond that, you can also try just giving money to Orana instead of "hiring" her (in case that is bugging it out.) Lastly, you may be able to reset the flag properly in a save editor. I use save editors all the time for ME, but admit, I have never used one for DA2.
I have been lucky...I have the game for both the Xbox and PC. Never had any issue with Fenris, though I know those that have, and many of the reasons why they had those troubles.
I have been lucky...I have the game for both the Xbox and PC. Never had any issue with Fenris, though I know those that have, and many of the reasons why they had those troubles.
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Posté 04 janvier 2014 - 02:46
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SomnolentLullaby wrote...
"We can work through this." Is it, right? If so... clicked it. The last option I chose was "But I care about you." And that's when he walked off. I know the ending it option totally ruins everything.
I know Im late on this but that's normal. Fenris will always walk away after he stays the night and say its to much to soon. You cant flirt with or be with anyone else after. If Fenris thinks you can be happy with someone else he will leave you to them. 3 years later in the next act you can talk about it and he will say he thought it would be "better If you hated him but he realizes now he cant live without you".
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Posté 05 janvier 2014 - 10:23
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If you playthrough Fenris' QB quest before you do anyone else's and didn't pick any broken heart options you should still be in a romance and see Fenris' romance armor. I know Isabela doesn't stay with Hawke if Merrill is romanced, even if the broken heart option is chosen. It's possible Fenris feels something similar.
I have a visual bug with Isabela that doesn't initially show Isabela's romance armor but fixes it after a couple quests without any input from me. I don't think it's the same issue with Fenris.
I have a visual bug with Isabela that doesn't initially show Isabela's romance armor but fixes it after a couple quests without any input from me. I don't think it's the same issue with Fenris.
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