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Would you kill templars in DA3 if doing so stopped the creation of red templars?


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leaguer of one wrote...

But if the statment is not true then the person who disagree is wrong. That would make the statement true again. Then back to false, then....


No. You're being deliberately confusing, and I'm probably taking you too seriously, but:

Statement: everyone is right.

If anyone disagrees, then the statement is false: NOT everyone is right. However, "not everyone is right" is NOT the same as "everyone is not right," which is what you're implying. If not everyone is right, then the person who claims everyone is right can be wrong--and the person who disagrees is right.

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KainD wrote...

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If everyone is right and someone disagrees, is the statement true or false?


How do the two conflict? Everyone is right in their own world, not the world where we all live in. 

That still means everyone is right. Perspective or "world" Is irrelivent.

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@Youth4Ever: No.

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Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

But if the statment is not true then the person who disagree is wrong. That would make the statement true again. Then back to false, then....


No. You're being deliberately confusing, and I'm probably taking you too seriously, but:

Statement: everyone is right.

If anyone disagrees, then the statement is false: NOT everyone is right. However, "not everyone is right" is NOT the same as "everyone is not right," which is what you're implying. If not everyone is right, then the person who claims everyone is right can be wrong--and the person who disagrees is right.


I was never being serious here but at this point lest just say it too silly of an arguement to go on with it.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.


I want to go on a psychadelic pcp-esque red lyrium trip. Would be an awesome level to play through.

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leaguer of one wrote...

I was never being serious here but at this point lest just say it too silly of an arguement to go on with it.


Let's say I'm right. :P

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EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.

But they can kill hordes of people. So what if they can control people, the red temple would just kill them. Added they themselve maybe immune to it.

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KainD wrote...

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The thing is if you are willing to discuss then you must first be willing to listen. Discussion is not to change peoples minds. It is TO LISTEN and TO UNDERSTAND.

You don't want either or even believe either are possible so there is no point for you to be here.


I understand everyone perfectly, only thing I am trying to do is make them understand as well, not change their mind. 


Impossible since you have already decided that you are correct and anyone thinking is wrong. You by default are here to just argue why you are right and they are wrong. Not even worth the keystrokes.

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I want to go on a psychadelic pcp-esque red lyrium trip. Would be an awesome level to play through.


And have some woman give you a lap dance too? No thanks.

/reference

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EntropicAngel wrote...

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I was never being serious here but at this point lest just say it too silly of an arguement to go on with it.


Let's say I'm right. :P

I disagree...=]

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leaguer of one wrote...

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Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.

But they can kill hordes of people. So what if they can control people, the red temple would just kill them. Added they themselve maybe immune to it.


We need more info, before we can make such assumptions. We know a lot more about blood magic at the moment.

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What about you kill mages in DA3 if doing so stopped the creation of blood mages?

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.


I want to go on a psychadelic pcp-esque red lyrium trip. Would be an awesome level to play through.

Red lyrium is a hell of a drug.

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But they can kill hordes of people. So what if they can control people, the red temple would just kill them. Added they themselve maybe immune to it.


A blood mage can control a noble and make them do things, like perhaps enact legislature. When you control someone, you have access to all that they have access to. Not the same as just killing them.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.


Losers yes? Blood mages ftw! ^_^

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eluvianix wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.

But they can kill hordes of people. So what if they can control people, the red temple would just kill them. Added they themselve maybe immune to it.


We need more info, before we can make such assumptions. We know a lot more about blood magic at the moment.

We do know it needs the person to have blood to work. And all the blood magic attcks done of Meredith when she was on her red Lyrium high did not work.

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What about you kill mages in DA3 if doing so stopped the creation of blood mages?


Let's not open that can of worms.

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Losers yes? Blood mages ftw! ^_^


*facehoof*

Kain, Kain, Kain...

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eluvianix wrote...

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What about you kill mages in DA3 if doing so stopped the creation of blood mages?


Let's not open that can of worms.

It's the same can of worms this topic opened.

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We do know it needs the person to have blood to work. And all the blood magic attcks done of Meredith when she was on her red Lyrium high did not work.


I'm 99% percent sure that was a gameplay abstraction, nothing more. To prevent you from winning easily.

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leaguer of one wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.

But they can kill hordes of people. So what if they can control people, the red temple would just kill them. Added they themselve maybe immune to it.


We need more info, before we can make such assumptions. We know a lot more about blood magic at the moment.

We do know it needs the person to have blood to work. And all the blood magic attcks done of Meredith when she was on her red Lyrium high did not work.

Did it not work? I never used blood magic on Meredith in the final battle. Her normal immunity to magic might have been boosted by her lyrium sword.

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leaguer of one wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Kaiser Arian wrote...

What about you kill mages in DA3 if doing so stopped the creation of blood mages?


Let's not open that can of worms.

It's the same can of worms this topic opened.


I was merely saying that if we open the gates on that topic, it will get ugly a lot faster than this line of questioning.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

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Losers yes? Blood mages ftw! ^_^


*facehoof*

Kain, Kain, Kain...

My dear, why do you have hooves?:huh:
And would not a hoof to the face hurt anyways?

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eluvianix wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Ya, now we can throw the whole,"Red Templars are not as dangerous as blood mages" arguement out the window.....The just mean more bad new for any one fighting them both.


I still disagree with that. They can throw a magic fireball, but can they cast blood wound? Can they literally control someone's mind? no.

But they can kill hordes of people. So what if they can control people, the red temple would just kill them. Added they themselve maybe immune to it.


We need more info, before we can make such assumptions. We know a lot more about blood magic at the moment.

We do know it needs the person to have blood to work. And all the blood magic attcks done of Meredith when she was on her red Lyrium high did not work.

Did it not work? I never used blood magic on Meredith in the final battle. Her normal immunity to magic might have been boosted by her lyrium sword.

Her red lyrium sword...The red lyrium being used by the red templers to boost themselves.:whistle: