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Would you kill templars in DA3 if doing so stopped the creation of red templars?


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Seekers......

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General TSAR wrote...

Seekers......


And Lambert is doing a GREAT job of policing templars...<_<

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EntropicAngel wrote...
He disagrees that there's a defender. That there's an innocent party. Because the majority of the time that's not true.

I never said all defenders are innocent. That anyone extrapolated 'innocence' from that is their own personal issue.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 02 décembre 2013 - 03:28 .


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Lord Raijin wrote...

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And not letting Elves, Humans and Qunari reproduce to avoid mages offspring isn't being a racist? Since when is being a mage considered to be bad anyways?  I rather have someone like Anders reproduce and teach his children to care for the poor and the needy rather than someone like Ser Alrik and Ser Karras who would do far more damage to the world if they were to produce offsprings.


Wait, wasn't Kerras the Templar who was trapped by a blood mage who was trying to force a demon to enter him?

Now how exactly is he a bad person?

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Those eyes and dat beard. Obvious criminal psychology... I'm convinced! :ph34r:

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"Templars are made by men, they can be unmade".

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mages aren't a race so I have no idea why we're throwing the term racist around.

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Ukki wrote...

"Templars are made by men, they can be unmade".


Who is that quote from?

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eluvianix wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

Seekers......


And Lambert is doing a GREAT job of policing templars...<_<


Seekers wasn't there to stop Meredith and her insane tyranny.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

mages aren't a race so I have no idea why we're throwing the term racist around.

I think he is returning to the Exalted March on the Dales thing.

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eluvianix wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

Seekers......


And Lambert is doing a GREAT job of policing templars...<_<

Heh. Good Point.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

Seekers......


And Lambert is doing a GREAT job of policing templars...<_<


Seekers wasn't there to stop Meredith and her insane tyranny.


However, if Cassandra ends up in charge of the Seekers in the future, I think we might fare better on that front. I like her a lot.

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This topic is eight pages long now? Wow.

Just to clarify to some, I was simply asking the question, I'm no advocate of killing templars to prevent them becoming red templars. Its murder. But skimming this thread, it seems some players would, and that's interesting.

And you never know what in-game faction might come to this conclusion. Mages who would benefit from the order's abolition, peasants now fearful of their one time saviors, etc.

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eluvianix wrote...

I think he is returning to the Exalted March on the Dales thing.


The elves are not innocent in that affair either.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

mages aren't a race so I have no idea why we're throwing the term racist around.

This is the same one who invoked Godwin's Law, don't expect him to have any sense of logic.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

mages aren't a race so I have no idea why we're throwing the term racist around.

I can't speak for anyone else, but in my most recent post, I was referring to Cerberus, the human-supremacist organisation from Mass Effect.

My point is that anyone who supports Cerberus for any reason is the last person who should be entering any sort of moral debate.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I think he is returning to the Exalted March on the Dales thing.


The elves are not innocent in that affair either.

I am not saying that they are entirely innocent either. Both sides contributed to that particular conflict. Regardless, I would really like to avoid revisiting that topic.

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LOL at me supporting Human Advancement and Humanity's Dagger.

Cerberus brought Shep back, was instrumental in stopping the Collectors, established a standing army that could rival the council races in six months, and had the power to control the Reapers.

They are Aces in my Book.

But this is Dragon Age, not Mass Effect.

Modifié par General TSAR, 02 décembre 2013 - 03:37 .


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And when is it considered being a templar bad anyway? Oh wait, there are some bad examples. Clearly they must all be curbstomped because of some lunatics. They're like apples. If one is bad, the rest will too.

Good thing Anders took the joining and there are slim chances he'd be reproducing. Imagine the things he'd be teaching his kids.
"Ok, kids. Today daddy will teach you how to play the victim and manipulate your closest ones into blowing **** up to prove a point. And remember: It's never your fault as long as there are others to blame."

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So, is anyone else hoping for the opportunity to have our Inquisitor sit down with the leaders of the factions and discuss how to provide basic freedoms for mages while ensuring the protection as well as freedom of normals?
Or is that just me?

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Not at all, (I hope).

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eluvianix wrote...

However, if Cassandra ends up in charge of the Seekers in the future, I think we might fare better on that front. I like her a lot.


Cassandra has my interests. I will have to investigate her personality traits furthur down the road to cast down my vote to determine if shes suitable to being Lord seeker.

I still want to know what her current views about mages, especially since one murdered her brother. Is she fair and consistent? Those are what I need to know.

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Cerberus was actually pretty cool before it got ruined in 3 though.

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MisterJB wrote...

So, is anyone else hoping for the opportunity to have our Inquisitor sit down with the leaders of the factions and discuss how to provide basic freedoms for mages while ensuring the protection as well as freedom of normals?
Or is that just me?

*Slowly raises hand*

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MisterJB wrote...

So, is anyone else hoping for the opportunity to have our Inquisitor sit down with the leaders of the factions and discuss how to provide basic freedoms for mages while ensuring the protection as well as freedom of normals?
Or is that just me?

I was hoping for a Scorched Earth Response, but yeah why not?

Though I don't think the Red Templar Faction is one for diplomacy.

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dragonflight288 wrote...
I try not to use meta-game knowledge when I roleplay. I would likely judge each instance with the templars individually on my first playthrough, and reserve my judgements for later in the game to see if they had an effect. Say, what if the templars are spared and later become Red Templars, but in order to kill them I would have to let a known blood mage live, even if it's a benevolent one, or a mage who isn't a blood mage but has been accused of being one and there's no way to know if the templars or the mage is telling the truth and all evidence is circumstantial.... It would require a great deal of thought.

Because you and I have both read the possible red templar spoilers, I think you may have the best idea of why I posed this question to begin, dragonflight288. From what we've read, the red templars are bad news beyond the mage-templar war-- that conflict is peanuts by comparison to their possible goal. Killing templars sounds monstrous, in context of the plot some may come to consider it a necessity.