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CrustyBot wrote...

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Spam potions because there is no cooldown and no choice.

Potions in RPGs are generally done stupid, cooldowns are for idiots. Potions ought to be done as battle preparation as chemical buffs to accompany magical ones or in the vein of doping. Ideally, they ought to be counterbalanced by some sort of toxicity or addiction mechanic which the player must balance over time. Witcher games had this right. But Elder Scrolls has always been like this, so it is unfair to lay the blame on Skyrim, when it's predecessors had this flaw too.
Not to mention it is a trope that has a long, long history in RPGs.

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Of course it's hard to accept that your degeneracy waifu sandbox simulator is a terrible game, but if I understand it correctly, the majority of you are not gamers. More circlejerk please


You have been playing Skyrim for 2 whole years since it's release, even modding for it. Yet you hate it so much, you only play it for the waifus. 
It seems to me that you are the only one who is actually playing Skyrim as a waifu sandbox simulator.




Yea I accept trash for being trash. I enjoy it for the waifus, nothing more really. I haven't touched the thing in 4 months and the next time I would play it is probably for less than 15 minutes to try out a new mod

do you people actually find skyrim to be fun and engaging? How can people play this on console for years?! I really worry about the future of this industry

Potions are not very hard to do. Put a cooldown on them to prevent spamming and non-choices in gameplay

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You have been playing Skyrim for 2 whole years since it's release, even modding for it. Yet you hate it so much, you only play it for the waifus. 
It seems to me that you are the only one who is actually playing Skyrim as a waifu sandbox simulator.


What's even funnier is that he has been arguing about this for 2 years with the same words, the same arguments and the same results. 


and you have not posted a single thing except angry rants 

The past two years on Bioware forums for you have been the same circlejerk over and over again, with nothing productive ever being accomplished. You can keep telling yourself you are right and justifying it when similar like minded people agree with you, but Skyrim is a terrible game for degenerate casuals. 

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In relation to the discussion on the first page:

How does more story make the game for "casuals"?

I thought someone was "hardcore" because they spent a lot of time and effort with their game, either because of the game play OR the story. I mean, if someone is playing Skyrim for 70+ hours, they're certainly less casual than I am about it. I could never lock in more than 30.


you can do 4th grade math for 70 hours, doesn't make you more hardcore than a college graduate working on a quantumn physics project for 30 hours. 

People who put a preference for stories over actual gameplay, do not actually want or care about gameplay. They want to be self gratified

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and you have not posted a single thing except angry rants and dependance on your circlejerk


What would be the point of that? I already did a few months ago. Why repeat what I've already said? Besides everything that needed to be said already was stated and even then none of it go through to you. Although what would anyway, after 2 years of saying the same stupidity over and over again is there any point in attempting to reason with you?

Like I've been saying before, I'd rather argue with a toaster. 

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Well I dunno. Math is more about practicality than fun. Some people have fun with it, sure, but I don't think that's a general feeling.

I mean, if someone is having fun or being challenged with 70+ hours of Skyrim than I'd say they're invested in it, and that's always been what I used to define "hardcore gamers". Investment.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

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and you have not posted a single thing except angry rants and dependance on your circlejerk


What would be the point of that? I already did a few months ago. Why repeat what I've already said? Besides everything that needed to be said already was stated and even then none of it go through to you. Although what would anyway, after 2 years of saying the same stupidity over and over again is there any point in attempting to reason with you?

Like I've been saying before, I'd rather argue with a toaster. 


You haven't

all you do is scream

"you're just a stupid troll"

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Lazengan wrote...


You haven't

all you do is scream

"you're just a stupid troll"


You're mistaken, I've been saying its better to argue with a toaster rather than arguing with you. 

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Well I dunno. Math is more about practicality than fun. Some people have fun with it, sure, but I don't think that's a general feeling.

I mean, if someone is having fun or being challenged with 70+ hours of Skyrim than I'd say they're invested in it, and that's always been what I used to define "hardcore gamers". Investment.


Casuals do not understand what they are doing, only progression and having their hands held. A casual will play Call of Duty for 900 hours and still do not fundementally understand the mechanics and why it is bad, because the casual enjoys the "immersion" and experience. A casual will always be  content with status quo because the game means nothing for them. 

Harcore gamers seek to metagame. They do  much more than play the game. they actually study its mechanics, and attempt to learn an edge over others. They discuss balance, and care about the future direction of the game, they actually care about the game. 

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

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and you have not posted a single thing except angry rants and dependance on your circlejerk


What would be the point of that? I already did a few months ago. Why repeat what I've already said? Besides everything that needed to be said already was stated and even then none of it go through to you. Although what would anyway, after 2 years of saying the same stupidity over and over again is there any point in attempting to reason with you?

Like I've been saying before, I'd rather argue with a toaster. 

I'm with you there. I love that toaster.

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Why don't you guys just accept that Lasagna will always be smarter, prettier, and more delicious than you, and call it a day?

Modifié par happy_daiz, 06 décembre 2013 - 04:57 .


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I'm with you there. I love that toaster.

Image IPB


Been wanting to post a picture of that, actually. That DLC was fun times indeed. 

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I might be casual then, based on that definition, lol.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

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You haven't

all you do is scream

"you're just a stupid troll"


You're mistaken, I've been saying its better to argue with a toaster rather than arguing with you. 


confirmed for autism

Run along now, I am sure there is a self insert fanfic that you need to go review, or a circlejerk thread that requires more gratification. Be sure to use emoticons and spout phrases like "kawaii~desu nerd culture!" and "the caek is a lie!! XDXDXD". I hope you made new friends in this thread with over the hatred of me circlejerk. You will surely have fun talking about the same things you did in Skyrim like which waifus to marry and what action button you pressed. 

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Lazengan wrote...

confirmed for autism

Run along now, I am sure there is a self insert fanfic that you need to go review, or a circlejerk thread that requires more gratification. Be sure to use emoticons and spout phrases like "kawaii~desu nerd culture!" and "the caek is a lie!! XDXDXD"


LOL!!!

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Foxxie x Lightning wrote...

I might be casual then, based on that definition, lol.


If you play a multiplayer game and actually care about competition and winning. If you make an effort to want to win and want to achieve success

you are not casual. 

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happy_daiz wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
and you have not posted a single thing except angry rants and dependance on your circlejerk


What would be the point of that? I already did a few months ago. Why repeat what I've already said? Besides everything that needed to be said already was stated and even then none of it go through to you. Although what would anyway, after 2 years of saying the same stupidity over and over again is there any point in attempting to reason with you?

Like I've been saying before, I'd rather argue with a toaster. 

I'm with you there. I love that toaster.

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Why don't you guys just accept that Lasagna will always be smarter, prettier, and more delicious than you, and call it a day?


oh my god I know that moment in the video game of which you are talking about! XD XD WE have so much in common!

you so kawaii, can I come to your thread and mindlessly agree with you too?

THE CAKE IS A LIE XD XD

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Aww, now you've gone and hurt my feelings. You are so mean.

Seriously, dude, this IS the same argument you brought to the Skyrim thread some time ago, and the results seem to be pretty similar here. Why do you persist?

Modifié par happy_daiz, 06 décembre 2013 - 05:05 .


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Aww, now you've gone and hurt my feelings. You are so mean.


pls babe Im srs

show me a forumer who disagreed with you, I shall protect you with my white knight shield and jerk you off as much as you desire

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because the industry is making garbage, and the source is at what consumers desire

If more of you wanted gameplay, you would really advocate for less movies, and more game design. 

If I can try to explain why Skyrim is bad, what actual gameplay is, perhaps you can start to think critically of what you call "games"

If I had all the financial resources in the world, I would make my own games and be content for you to remain where you are, but that is not so. Developpers make products due to demand

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Out of curiosity, what are your favourite RPGs, Lazengan?

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Out of curiosity, what are your favourite RPGs, Lazengan?


In terms of gameplay I actually enjoyed mass effect

Various custom wc3 maps
Jedi academy
dishonored


I don't even want to talk about stories, those are completely different

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So Mass Effect also has gameplay now? That hamster could run Olympic track with the best of them.

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Lazengan wrote...
If I can try to explain why Skyrim is bad, what actual gameplay is, perhaps you can start to think critically of what you call "games"

Hmm? I get that the only way Skyrim's story could have been less engaging would be if all the voicework was done by Keeanu Reeves, but if you didn't like the gameplay, you were just playing the game WRONG. Sneaking around bandits and necromancers and gutting them from behind in this game is provably fun.

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Lazengan wrote...

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Out of curiosity, what are your favourite RPGs, Lazengan?


In terms of gameplay I actually enjoyed mass effect

Various custom wc3 maps
Jedi academy
dishonored


I don't even want to talk about stories, those are completely different



I said RPGs, not an RTS and Action games with varying amounts of RPG elements. 

I actually like WC3, Dishonored and Jedi Academy especially (amazing lightsaber combat) but they are not RPGs.

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Lazengan wrote...

If I can try to explain why Skyrim is bad, what actual gameplay is, perhaps you can start to think critically of what you call "games"

Do you know what gameplay is? I don't think you ever addressed anyone's accusation of you lacking knowledge outside of the lulz worthy "I'm a gameplay designer."