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JulianWellpit wrote...

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Don't forget fabulous. A fabulous animal trained to rip and tear with its teeth.


Absolutely!  But doesn't that mean they'd be more suited to Orlais than Tevinter?

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Silfren wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...

@Sifren

Don't forget fabulous. A fabulous animal trained to rip and tear with its teeth.


Absolutely!  But doesn't that mean they'd be more suited to Orlais than Tevinter?


They're fabulous, not chic. Everyone and everything across Thedas can be fabulous, but only orlesians can be chic . Besides, they already have those spectacular wyverns. Don't give them those beautiful animals. They don't deserve them and they'll most likely put all sorts of pink ribbons in their hair and make them look like a poodle :sick:

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JulianWellpit wrote...

Silfren wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...

@Sifren

Don't forget fabulous. A fabulous animal trained to rip and tear with its teeth.


Absolutely!  But doesn't that mean they'd be more suited to Orlais than Tevinter?


They're fabulous, not chic. Everyone and everything across Thedas can be fabulous, but only orlesians can be chic . Besides, they already have those spectacular wyverns. Don't give them that beautiful animals. They don't deserve them and they'll most likely put all sorts of pink ribbons in their hair and make them look like a poodle :sick:


Point.  *shudders*

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I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:

#855
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eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


*sips her coffee*  I'm sorry, were you gone for a while?  Hadn't noticed.

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Silfren wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


*sips her coffee*  I'm sorry, were you gone for a while?  Hadn't noticed.

Ha.Ha. Ha. We have a comedienne in the house, ladies and gentlemen. <_<

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I normally agree with you, but I feel like we don't have enough information on Leliana's specifics of what she did to outright state she wasn't thorough.

She did manage to draw resolutionists out, who wanted to assassinate her. But if a gamer doesn't have the DLC Exiled Prince then they would never know there was a group of mages called the Resolutionists. Their very existence and attempted assassination shows Leliana has more information than Hawke, and thereby us, do.

Also, Leliana was quite vague in what information she gave Hawke. Here's the video.


The video skipped over the Resolutionists investigate option.

She never says she was investigating Kirkwall, but investigating the possibility of rebellion, and all the information she gives Hawke is specific only to what Elthina asked him to do, and not a scrap of information more than that. She really only talks about the Resolutionists because they tried to kill Hawke, thinking he was her.


Fair enough, rebellion. But I'd argue that it changes very little about how I believe she needs to conduct a thorough investigation and not ascribe the entire political climate to being due to the Resolutionists, because rebellions seldom occur without reasons for them.

Sure, a rebellion in Kirkwall could be tied to the basic "Mages want freedom" (which it is, in part). But that's not going to be the entire thing. Take for instance the Fereldan Rebellion. It'd be easy to just go "LOL Mages be Mages" but it'd be foolish of anyone trying to understand how to deal with the potential fallout to do so because there were other factors at play (Loghain, Ostagar, the Chantry's refusal to send more mages, etc.).

To understand rebellions, you need to look at everything that could possibly have contributed to the climate that made it possible. Some are easier then others, but Kirkwall isn't an easy one to just go "Ah, Resolutionists."

Although how they could mistake the Champion for a Chantry agent, I don't know, but that scene alone brings up a new fraternity that you would never know existed if you never played it.


I think DAO made some offhand remarks about Libertarian offshoots.

I believe we don't have enough information on what Leliana was actually doing, because she obviously is working with information we lack.


It's easy to say that, but it still doesn't account for say... why she and the Chantry didn't fully investigate until two years later, why if she had more to go off of Cassandra is operating on barebones details that were common knowledge (expedition, estate, Qunari attack, Champion, Elthina go boom-boom, Mages vs. Templars, Meredith being petrified by her lyrium idol).

I just find it hard to really convince myself that Leliana did her job right there or that she knows more then we think.

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eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 05 décembre 2013 - 07:15 .


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^ all those vowels are making me dizzy.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Shall we destroy a Chantry today, my brother? I am in need to let off some steam. Mages of Thedas, Unite!

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eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Shall we destroy a Chantry today, my brother? I am in need to let off some steam. Mages of Thedas, Unite!


Where did I put that lyrium brand ?

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Hold still.

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Modifié par JulianWellpit, 05 décembre 2013 - 07:53 .


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Silfren wrote...

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Well, technically that would still make for an extremly bumbly and uncomfortable ride. I once had a friend who would constantly belittle fantasy stories with bear/dogs/cats/birds as mounts, since it would be an unfeasible way of transportation. She was studying zoology at the time, and said that it wasn't so much about the strength of the back of the animal, but the way they ran. A Feline/Lupine/Ursine creature does not have a steady back while running, and would thus make for an uncomfortable ride, and it would be nigh impossible to hold on to the animal.

She was fun at parties though..


I take it the "it's a fantasy omg," defense doesn't work here?

Oh trust me, I tried that. But her response was something like "If you know the taste of salt, then a story where salt is supposed to be sweet as sugar, doesn't make sense".
And even if it is fantasy, it is going to be hard to make a believeable running animation for a ferocious beast, with a person mounted on its back, where the ridder isn't tossed about wildly during travel.

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eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Shall we destroy a Chantry today, my brother? I am in need to let off some steam. Mages of Thedas, Unite!


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Join Anders and I and together we'll fight for our freedom. We'll fight our oppressors with full force.

1 Chantry down the rest to go.

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What if the ridder is the mount and the mount is the ridder ? :o

I can totally see a dwarf inquisitor carrying his mabari mount. Also, I can see a qunari inquisitor carrying on his back his horse. Problem solved :whistle:

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 05 décembre 2013 - 08:00 .


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JulianWellpit wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Shall we destroy a Chantry today, my brother? I am in need to let off some steam. Mages of Thedas, Unite!


Where did I put that lyrium brand ?

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Hold still.

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Harsh, my friend.:crying:

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Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Shall we destroy a Chantry today, my brother? I am in need to let off some steam. Mages of Thedas, Unite!


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Join Anders and I and together we'll fight for our freedom. We'll fight our oppressors with full force.

1 Chantry down the rest to go.

Damn. We are some fine looking mages, my friend. Shirtless Ander ftw ;)

#867
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JulianWellpit wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I'mmmmmmm baaaaaaaccccccckkkk!!!!!!:devil:


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelcome baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack my mage brother :)

Shall we destroy a Chantry today, my brother? I am in need to let off some steam. Mages of Thedas, Unite!


Where did I put that lyrium brand ?

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Hold still.

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That mysterious hand you see over there to the left corner of your screen is I... who is about to kick your templars ass.

#868
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eluvianix wrote...
Damn. We are some fine looking mages, my friend. Shirtless Ander ftw ;)


We mages don't need heavy armor to intimidate our enemies. We can defeat them just fine, shirtless if we want.

Templars wear heavy armor to compensate something that they lack ;) 

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 05 décembre 2013 - 08:06 .


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@Lord Raijin

No, that's the hand of a Spirit Healer with full herbalism skills that secretly knows elemental and primal magic that is about to decide if he should let a templar lunatic brand his fellow mages for the good of the innocents that might get killed because of their brilliant plan or zap the bastard and risk going apostate or even getting killed.

Modifié par JulianWellpit, 05 décembre 2013 - 08:11 .


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@JulianWellpit Keep telling yourself that because we both know the true reason behind that photo ;)

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It's the thought that counts.

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You guys should come up with a new symbol for the mages. Cause the templars symbol has your pretty much beat.

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Consider it, logo branding can often lead to lots of awareness and more joiners.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

You guys should come up with a new symbol for the mages. Cause the templars symbol has your pretty much beat.

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Consider it, logo branding can often lead to lots of awareness and more joiners.


Image IPB I like this one much better. And plus, the Seekers' logo looks cooler than the Templars.

#874
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Not only do we have a badass symbol but our armor is far more significant than those plain Templars armor.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

Not only do we have a badass symbol but our armor is far more significant than those plain Templars armor.

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God, yes. Tevinter knows how to do mage armor! And I wonder if that sword thing can channel magic like Spellweaver did?
Image IPB These mages scream badass.