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[Quibii]

 Hello,


First off, I'd like to apologize if this is in the wrong forum section, or if I happen to be breaking any rules with this topic. It is unintentional. 

Onto the subject, I find myself curious about this. Obviously on the Citadel, there's C-Sec to deal with illegal activity, but what about outside of the Citadel? Sure, there's the Spectres, but (and correct me if I'm wrong in any way) isn't that more to deal with things that threaten the galactic peace? If my question wasn't clear at all, I'll outright ask.


What forms of law enforcement are there outside of the Citadel? While I'm asking that, there's a second question that comes to mind. Sure, there'll be law enforcement on the different worlds, such as Palaven and Earth. I suppose my second question (unless you want to consider it being more specific on my first question. Whatever makes my senseless talking..you know, make more sense.) would be what forms of galactic law enforcement is there outside of the Citadel? By galactic, I mean either consisting of more than one race, and/or having their operations span more than just one location.


If you've read this far, I congradulate you. If you understood all of it, you deserve a medal. I'm not being sarcastic. Thank you for your time. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Each planet ususally has it's own police force or security force made. For those who are either too small or can't afford to make their own security force, they got 2 options. Either rely on your homewolrds military, alliance, hierarchy, hegemony, republic, union, what have you, to give your colony the defenses it needs to maintain order and security. Or, you pay a outside party to do it for you.

This is why mercenaries are so prevalent in the mass effect universe. They offer a full military service that can sometimes be even more effective then relying on your homeworlds support, and can sometimes come at a fraction of the price. Not to mention the highly effective marketing campaign a lot of these groups use, the eclipse mercenaries especially.

[Quibii]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Each planet ususally has it's own police force or security force made. For those who are either too small or can't afford to make their own security force, they got 2 options. Either rely on your homewolrds military, alliance, hierarchy, hegemony, republic, union, what have you, to give your colony the defenses it needs to maintain order and security. Or, you pay a outside party to do it for you.

This is why mercenaries are so prevalent in the mass effect universe. They offer a full military service that can sometimes be even more effective then relying on your homeworlds support, and can sometimes come at a fraction of the price. Not to mention the highly effective marketing campaign a lot of these groups use, the eclipse mercenaries especially.

Thank you, I appreciate the response a great deal. 

[Wulfram]

You've got to remember that the Council is somewhere in the middle between the UN security council and being a real government. It doesn't seem to have an equivalent of the FBI.

Modifié par Wulfram, 04 décembre 2013 - 11:14 .

[GHNR]

Also, according to the Mass Effect 2 Codex, due to shortages of manpower in C-Sec after the Battle of the Citadel, security forces around the galaxy went to fill in the vacant positions. Thus, to try and solve the new vacancies on all of these planets, security mechs became much more popular with colonies.

Modifié par GHNR, 05 décembre 2013 - 12:08 .

[justafan]

Think of it like the UN, the UN has it's own police for their headquarters, but no standing force to police the world. Thus, Americans are charged with enforcing UN laws in the US, Indians are charged with enforcing UN laws in India, etc. C-Sec is a local thing, similar to a city's police force. Each government will have its own regulations on law enforcement and policing. From what I've gathered, authority goes Spectre, Government military, planetary enforcement, city enforcement.

Like we see on Illium (outside council space) they have their own police officers, with their own policies (such as those regarding the justicars, which themselves are given a special role in law enforcement within Asari space and Asari space only). The only constant we see in the ME universe regarding law enforcement is that if they are part of council space, they must respect the authority of Spectres.

[pelojian]

justafan wrote...

Think of it like the UN, the UN has it's own police for their headquarters, but no standing force to police the world. Thus, Americans are charged with enforcing UN laws in the US, Indians are charged with enforcing UN laws in India, etc. C-Sec is a local thing, similar to a city's police force. Each government will have its own regulations on law enforcement and policing. From what I've gathered, authority goes Spectre, Government military, planetary enforcement, city enforcement.

Except when the UN decides to enforce UN laws on a country that doesnt recognize their authority.

the UN is a good comparison to the citidel council, every member has a say but it's not a true democracy, the councilors have final say and countries with veto powers in the UN also have final say on motions.

Modifié par pelojian, 05 décembre 2013 - 07:32 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

tbh the galaxy needs a unified police force it would help cut down on the rampant crime.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Also, it seems like different star systems are considered as "belonging" to different species. I imagine that two ships getting into a space battle in the Apien Crest would ultimately answer to the Turian Hierarchy's law enforcement unless the Council got involved for some reason.

One thing that's unclear to me, though, is whether all of the individual nations on Earth are now part of the Alliance. It seems that not all of the human colonies are, for example, given the skepticism of the Alliance among Horizon's residents in ME2. I guess I assume that the Turian Hierarchy, Salarian Union, and other organized species-specific governments at least speak for their entire homeworlds as well as at least some colonies, but maybe they have some internal "holdouts" too.

[JonathonPR]

I always just assumed that each race had its own police force system for their own territory.

[MrFob]

FlyingSquirrel wrote...

Also, it seems like different star systems are considered as "belonging" to different species. I imagine that two ships getting into a space battle in the Apien Crest would ultimately answer to the Turian Hierarchy's law enforcement unless the Council got involved for some reason.

One thing that's unclear to me, though, is whether all of the individual nations on Earth are now part of the Alliance. It seems that not all of the human colonies are, for example, given the skepticism of the Alliance among Horizon's residents in ME2. I guess I assume that the Turian Hierarchy, Salarian Union, and other organized species-specific governments at least speak for their entire homeworlds as well as at least some colonies, but maybe they have some internal "holdouts" too.

The alliance has contributors among most of Earths individual nations. I think it's a very interesting political situation that would be very nice to see in further detail in a future ME installment. I also wonder how things are going to change after the reaper war. I would assume, many goverments and a lot of infrastructure is destroyed, especially in the well developed parts of earth. It would be the perfect opportunity to unite the planet for good but it's also potentially opening the doors for less developed regions which may now actually be in a much stronger position.

Other home worlds: We know that the Turians are pretty much united by now, definitely on the home word and after the colony wars, probably also with most of their immediate colonies. I guess every Turian who doesn't want to be part of the Hirarchy has to go to independent colonies like Novaria or into the Terminus Systems.
The Asari have a number of individual states on their home world (the Asari republics) but from what I gather, they are also a united force when they represent themselves to other species (ust like the Alliance).
That seems to be rule anyway. The Volus still have the clan structure on their home world and the Elcor have their herd communities. But when in space/on the Citadel, they seem united as a species (which makes sense, I guess).

As for colonies, I guesss it depends on the individual colony. We know that the Alliance put a lot of recourses into establishing colonies quickly in the Attican Traverse to counter Batarian influence. I guess these a re the main Aliance colonies because they fall under their protection and are funded by ther resources (much like e.g. British, French and Spanish colonies on Earth were).
Then there are definitely independent colonies like Novaria which don't fall under any jurisdiction. I guess places like Horizon and Freedom's Progress are also independent but have loose ties to the Alliance.

Over all, there seems to be quite a bit of variety in how different species structure themselves, which is something I really like about the ME universe. If you compare it with e.g. Star Trek, everyone seems to be pretty similar there. Every race has their homeworld and colonies but are ultimately centralized. I hope ME keeps up this sense of different levels of administration that work differently. I understand that during the reaper war, you'd be very focused on the big players but I do hope that we get to see how the different races and nations conduct themselves on a smaller scale as well in the future.