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[Jestina]

It sucks that so many companies now want you to run their specific downloader. I've got downloaders for Gamestop, Origin, Ubisoft, and Steam. My Steam library is up to 80 games and rarely do I ever use the other downloaders except when they force you to.

[AlanC9]

Edit: weird... editing my post caused a duplication. I thought that was fixed.

Modifié par AlanC9, 09 décembre 2013 - 07:56 .

[AlanC9]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Mass Effect and Dragon age go on sale on Origin plenty; IIRC they're on sale right now . Since I own them both I haven't been comparing sales frequency or percentages.

Your point? You said EA games wouldn't go on sale more often if they were on Steam. The truth is that they would, how many sales does Steam have, how many does Origin? I'm pretty sure Steam has way more than they do, I honestly don't know how many sales Origin does, all I remember was that Humble Bundle thing they had and the Christmas sales, other than that, I really don't remember anything about sales with that place. On the other hand those games are constantly on sale in Steam, I can't remember how many times I've seen Crysis and Crysis 2 up for sale.

So you don't actually know, but they would go on sale more often on Steam because... they just have to, because EA is evil and stuff? I don't follow the argument here. Would Valve force EA to put its stuff on sale more often than EA wanted to? Can Valve do that?

Ah but it does, matter. If people are just willing to use it no matter how crappy it is, then what's to stop them from releasing even crappier stuff. Steam was an unknown and people were very hostile to it when it came out, if they hadn't made it solid piece of software, it'd have never reached the point it is at right now. The way I see it EA just released a product that barely worked to get a piece of the market share, used a cheap excuse to get away with it and then forced it on everyone who wanted to buy their stuff, yeah Steam does it too, but Valve has a good reputation amongst the PC and its not like they expected everything in exchange for nothing, they put sales throughout most of the year, stuff like greenlight, the mod workshop. Does EA put that much support into the PC community? I doubt it, and they've been notorious for their lack of support instead, the lack of  support for modding in general(ie: contributing to an engine in which modding is almost impossible), and their draconian schemes in the past. 

Does Valve have such a reputation? No, but I guess you could say, that it is a product of their nature. Valve is a privately owned company, it doesn't need to answer to investors like EA does, Valve is also run by technology experts, not suits interested in income statements. Their views are completely different and in the end the way they both act is also completely different, nonetheless, I prefer to put my trust in people who are willing to put the proper time and money into their software and are not just out to take a piece of the market. 

This sounds like you're saying that the qualilty of Origin doesn't have much to do with the way you judge Origin. Sounds like pure emotion, even.

Modifié par AlanC9, 09 décembre 2013 - 07:56 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

AlanC9 wrote...

So you don't actually know, but they would go on sale more often on Steam because... they just have to, because EA is evil and stuff? I don't follow the argument here. Would Valve force EA to put its stuff on sale more often than EA wanted to? Can Valve do that?

 

Obviously they can't but if you want to go to trivialities and try to devalue my point by claiming that I'm stating "EA is evil" go ahead. The people who put the games on sales are the companies themselves, either way I'm sure Steam has some control. But seroiously, I really don't need the numbers to say that Steam has a lot more sales than Origin does and you know this too, Origin isn't known for discounts, and neither is EA. 

AlanC9 wrote..

This sounds like you're saying that the qualilty of Origin doesn't have much to do with the way you judge Origin. Sounds like pure emotion, even.

Emotional, really? Did you read what I said? Should I just randomly choose which one I like the best then? I don't know what to say really, it seems to me like you're trying to change the argument and make this about me and not about the issue. I gave my reasons and they were valid, I personally do not think that EA is going to get any better, why should I use software that they don't even care to develop? 

I already gave you some "quality" reasons as well, those being that Steam has the workshop , greenlight and whole load of other features Origin hasn't even come up with. You want to talk about its UI or something? I don't really think people consider that when choosing what to use (if they even have a choice anyway). I can certainly give you enough reasons why I think Origin's UI is much worse than Steam's. 

[wolfsite]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

So you don't actually know, but they would go on sale more often on Steam because... they just have to, because EA is evil and stuff? I don't follow the argument here. Would Valve force EA to put its stuff on sale more often than EA wanted to? Can Valve do that?

 

Obviously they can't but if you want to go to trivialities and try to devalue my point by claiming that I'm stating "EA is evil" go ahead. The people who put the games on sales are the companies themselves, either way I'm sure Steam has some control. But seroiously, I really don't need the numbers to say that Steam has a lot more sales than Origin does and you know this too, Origin isn't known for discounts, and neither is EA. 

AlanC9 wrote..

This sounds like you're saying that the qualilty of Origin doesn't have much to do with the way you judge Origin. Sounds like pure emotion, even.

Emotional, really? Did you read what I said? Should I just randomly choose which one I like the best then? I don't know what to say really, it seems to me like you're trying to change the argument and make this about me and not about the issue. I gave my reasons and they were valid, I personally do not think that EA is going to get any better, why should I use software that they don't even care to develop? 

I already gave you some "quality" reasons as well, those being that Steam has the workshop , greenlight and whole load of other features Origin hasn't even come up with. You want to talk about its UI or something? I don't really think people consider that when choosing what to use (if they even have a choice anyway). I can certainly give you enough reasons why I think Origin's UI is much worse than Steam's. 

I feel an Epic Rap Battle coming.... lets make it happen people.

[Splinter Cell 108]

wolfsite wrote...
I feel an Epic Rap Battle coming.... lets make it happen people.

Forget it, I'm tired about arguing about this pointless stuff, I'm just going to play New Vegas, Skyrim or something. In the end its just a matter of choice. 

[wolfsite]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

In the end its just a matter of choice. 

Quote of the thread.

[Cyonan]

wolfsite wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

In the end its just a matter of choice. 

Quote of the thread.

Screw choice, this is the internet.

Everybody who doesn't agree with my opinion is wrong, because we all know my opinion is actually fact.

[KT Chong]

I have no preferences between Steam and Origin.  My favorite digital store is actually GOG.  I own 151 games on  Steam - but have installed only 8 and played only 6. (I actually bought a lot of Steam games that I had already bought on discs or later rebought from GOG.)   I have never used - and will likely never use - Origin because I find many of EA  and BioWare's business practices very deplorable.  However, I do not feel EA is the "most evil" company, nor do I hate EA with a passion.  When I do  not like a company's business models or practices, I just do not buy its products.  (I have  bought some some EA and BioWare titles as parts of a Humble Bundle, Steam and GOG sales. Almost all of the BioWare games I bought on Steam and GOG are old titles that I also own on discs.)

I actually loved the old BioWare games from its  pre-EA era.  The reason why I have avoided all recent BioWare titles is
because I generally buy the "Game of the Year", "Complete" and  "Ultimate" editions, so I can own all the expansions and DLCs (along with the  main game) in one purchase.  I avoid buying individual games when I know it has  expansions and DLCs that are still in production or being released.  I  wait until all the expansions and DLCs are released, and then I buy the  entire package to save time, money and hassle.   

BioWare's  current business model (after it was bought out by EA) is to NOT  release a complete edition.  BioWare has never released a complete  edition for Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3 and Dragon Age 2.  Which is why I  have never bought those games.  (I owned Mass Effect 1 on Xbox 360, but  then I sold it on eBay when my first Xbox 360 was burned out by the red  ring. I did not even bother to send the console  back to Microsoft because I dislike too much hassle.)

I am very leery of Origin because of several things I've read about EA and Origin:

(1) Frankly, the only EA games would ever interest me are BioWare titles.  However, recent and current BioWare games are broken into DLCs, and BioWare would never release a "complete" edition of its recent/newer titles.  So that  is a deal-breaker for me. 

I have never played any EA sport game, Sim game, or Battlefield game.   I am not hooked on any other EA franchises.  So EA can't me into Origin.  (Which is a reason I do not hate EA - because I have never been "screwed over" by EA as I have never really played any EA game.  I do, however, avoid EA products based on its reputation and business models/practices.


(2) I read that EA has, in the past, deleted a digital game from a user's account after the user had not played the game for too long, and deleted a user's  account after the user had not logged in for too long, (on the previous EA digital platform.) That's very unsettling to know.

When Steam or GOG removed a game from its store, the game would still be in my library if I had previously bought it.   I paid for it.  It's mine.   What EA did was unaccepatable.  I do not care if EA has changed its policy on taking away products from customers who had paid for the products.  It should not have happened in the first place.

(3) I read that Origin scan the user's entire hard drive when it was installed.  That's an invasion of privacy and very intrusive.  In the post-Snowden era, I find that behavior from a corporation unacceptable.

(4) This is a major one: EA and Origin rarely has sales.  BioWare games or DLCs are rarely discounted after years.  Games and DLCs that are many  years old (i.e., Mass Effect DLCs) are still sold at full  prices.

(5) EA has a reputation of suspending/terminating user accounts -- along with  all the games and contents the users had already paid for -- when the users posted  criticism of EA in forums or were involved in lawsuits against EA.

I read that EA has made changes to correct some some of those policies due to customer backlashs.  However, given EA's track records and reputation, I would not trust that EA.   EA has all the powers in controlling its digital contents.  It can always revert to  old policies to screw over  customers, and customers will have no recourse after we have already paid for the contents.  That's why I've avoided Origin and EA products.

(It is the same reason why I will never buy another Xbox.  I already got screwed over once.  I must be really stupid to be willingly give money to the same company.    Add to that, Microsoft gave me even more reasons to avoid Xbox when they announced all those intrusive "features" in Xbox One.  I know Microsoft has changed course and withdraw all of those features.  However, that is not enough IMO, and the bad taste was already in my mouth.)

Modifié par KT Chong, 23 décembre 2013 - 04:34 .

[wolfsite]

KT Chong wrote...

(2) I read that EA has, in the past, deleted a digital game from a user's account after the user had not played the game for too long, and deleted a user's  account after the user had not logged in for too long, (on the previous EA digital platform.) That's very unsettling to know.

This is false, I have talked with EA's game advisors and they have stated they do not delete games or accounts unless it is requested by the owner of the account

(3) I read that Origin scan the user's entire hard drive when it was installed.  That's an invasion of privacy and very intrusive.  In the post-Snowden era, I find that behavior from a corporation unacceptable.

This is again false, an early build was found to have an error in it that casued this but EA quickly patched it out an even publicly apologized stating is was never meant to happen.  All versions of Origin have ramained within it's own directory strucutre.  Steam acutally scans more of your computer hard drive than Origin does as Steam goes into your Windows directory and program files directories (I used the monitor programs with both clients and I can confirm this is true)

(4) This is a major one: EA and Origin rarely has sales.  BioWare games or DLCs are rarely discounted after years.  Games and DLCs that are many  years old (i.e., Mass Effect DLCs) are still sold at full  prices.

Sales have been improving but I agree they can always be better, I have a feeling the main reason for Mass Effect DLC not being put on sale is due to that it still uses the Bioware Points system, I have always encouraged people to contact EA and request they drop the point system in favour of real currency values as many other online stores have done this over the years.

(5) EA has a reputation of suspending/terminating user accounts -- along with  all the games and contents the users had already paid for -- when the users posted  criticism of EA in forums or were involved in lawsuits against EA.

I read that EA has made changes to correct some some of those policies due to customer backlashs.  However, given EA's track records and reputation, I would not trust that EA.   EA has all the powers in controlling its digital contents.  It can always revert to  old policies to screw over  customers, and customers will have no recourse after we have already paid for the contents.  That's why I've avoided Origin and EA products.

This is true for all online clients.  If you read Steams policies over the years you will see a trend from saying "you own the games" to "You own a license to play the games" to "You have purchased a subscription for the entitlement to play the game"  This is a matter of concern but I do feel it is unfair to point fingers at EA when other, more popular, game clients have done the same thing or worse (check the censorship on the Steam forums, hell they threatened to ban my account once merely because I suggested Steam may be conflicting with a game I purhased on it.... I still can't get the game to run and the developer can't help anymore since Steam is the only possibility left).



Note I am not trying to be negative or aggressive against you I just feel it is unfair that other companies that have done similar things or worse than EA has done and are given a free pass about it and are allowed to continue there practices while people cross examine EA looking for even the smallest thing to bash them on.

If it was a perfect world the online clients would adopt a service more akin to GOG.com where you do own the game outright and don't need to be constantly connected to servers to prove that even 7 years after the purchase.

Modifié par wolfsite, 23 décembre 2013 - 02:28 .

[Addai]

wolfsite wrote...

This is false, I have talked with EA's game advisors and they have stated they do not delete games or accounts unless it is requested by the owner of the account

Do you work for EA? Just curious.

[KT Chong]

wolfsite,

I have NEVER paid the full price for the digital version of a game on Steam or GOG, ever, and I will NEVER pay a full price.  The rationale is simple: according to EA, BioWare and all the corporation and their unbridled greed,  nowadays customers are supposedly buying the "license" to play a game, not the actual game itself.    Which means customers are really just "renting" a game when they "buy" digital. 

So.  If I am only "renting" a game,  then I should not have to pay the same prices as buying the actual physical games and actually owning something.   EA, BioWare and coporations may disagree.  However, when I have the physical copies of the games in my hands, they really have very little to no control over what I do with the games.  However, corporations retain full control of digital copies on their digital platforms, which means they can exert control to make sure I do not actually own the games for that I had paid money -- they decide if I get to use the products or not at all time.

So.  If I am only renting, then I should not be paying full "purchase" prices for games.   However, what EA, BioWare and Origin want to do is to normalize the unsavory business model of making people pay full "purchase" prices for rental, for products that people do not actually own.  I refuse to comply.  Which  is why I have stopped buying BioWare games when they adopted that business model.

Steam and GOG have regular sales and deep discounts, so customers get to pay rental prices for rental games, which are the proper prices for  games that people do not actually own.  I pay for a game on Steam and GOG only when it is 60%, 70%, 80% off or more -- because those are the right prices for renting an not owning a game.  I do not ever pay full prices for rental.

The problem with Origin is that EA and BioWare games, even very old games, are rarely discounted.  EA and BioWare are renting games at full retail prices.  IMO, that is just pure ripoff.  Which is why I have avoided Origin.  If EA and BioWare want to charge full prices for their games, then they have to  give me the actual physical copies without any of the digital download BS.  When I pay the full retail prices, I want to own the actual games that I know I can play, 20 or 30 years from now.  With all the digital and DRM and online activation BS, all the stuff you pay for will be useless and unplayable/un-downloadble/un-activatable in a decade or two.

It makes sense for me to "buy" digital with Steam and GOG because their games are appropriately prices: rental prices for games that are actually just rental.  With Origin, it makes zero sense to pay the inflated full retail prices for digital copies that customers do not actually own.

That's my take on it.  I pity the younger generations, the "sheep" generations, who somehow think it's acceptable to pay full retail purchase prices for renting stuff because they do not know better.  They do not there was a time when people could actually own something when they paid money for it.  Nowadays corporations want to own and control everything, even after they make people pay full prices for everything.  They want it to become the new normal.  I still think it is unacceptable.

Modifié par KT Chong, 23 décembre 2013 - 08:10 .

[Maverick827]

Addai67 wrote...

Do you work for EA? Just curious.

Poster on BioWare forums likes BioWare.  Must be an employee.

Logic.

[Cyonan]

KT Chong wrote...

I have NEVER paid the full price for the digital version of a game on Steam or GOG, ever, and I will NEVER pay a full price.  The rationale is simple: according to EA, BioWare and all the corporation and their unbridled greed,  nowadays customers are supposedly buying the "license" to play a game, not the actual game itself.    Which means customers are really just "renting" a game when they "buy" digital. 

So.  If I am only "renting" a game,  then I should not have to pay the same prices as buying the actual physical games and actually owning something.   EA, BioWare and coporations may disagree.  However, when I have the physical copies of the games in my hands, they really have very little to no control over what I do with the games.  However, corporations retain full control of digital copies on their digital platforms, which means they can exert control to make sure I do not actually own the games for that I had paid money -- they decide if I get to use the products or not at all time.

So.  If I am only renting, then I should not be paying full "purchase" prices for games.   However, what EA, BioWare and Origin want to do is to normalize the unsavory business model of making people pay full "purchase" prices for rental, for products that people do not actually own.  I refuse to comply.  Which  is why I have stopped buying BioWare games when they adopted that business model.

Steam and GOG have regular sales and deep discounts, so customers get to pay rental prices for rental games, which are the proper prices for  games that people do not actually own.  I pay for a game on Steam and GOG only when it is 60%, 70%, 80% off or more -- because those are the right prices for renting an not owning a game.  I do not ever pay full prices for rental.

The problem with Origin is that EA and BioWare games, even very old games, are rarely discounted.  EA and BioWare are renting games at full retail prices.  IMO, that is just pure ripoff.  Which is why I have avoided Origin.  If EA and BioWare want to charge full prices for their games, then they have to  give me the actual physical copies without any of the digital download BS.  When I pay the full retail prices, I want to own the actual games that I know I can play, 20 or 30 years from now.  With all the digital and DRM and online activation BS, all the stuff you pay for will be useless and unplayable/un-downloadble/un-activatable in a decade or two.

It makes sense for me to "buy" digital with Steam and GOG because their games are appropriately prices: rental prices for games that are actually just rental.  With Origin, it makes zero sense to pay the inflated full retail prices for digital copies that customers do not actually own.

That's my take on it.  I pity the younger generations, the "sheep" generations, who somehow think it's acceptable to pay full retail purchase prices for renting stuff because they do not know better.  They do not there was a time when people could actually own something when they paid money for it.  Nowadays corporations want to own and control everything, even after they make people pay full prices for everything.  They want it to become the new normal.  I still think it is unacceptable.

Actually, GOG doesn't use DRM. You're not buying a licence for the game or renting it.

With Origin the problem is not actually them charging full price most of the time like you claim. The problem is that the sales they do have are not as good as what Steam has to offer. Right now both are having a holday sale, but Origin is 30-40% off compared to Steam's 50-80% off.

Also, no BioWare game is $60 or $50 on Origin right now. Even without the sale.

[Addai]

Maverick827 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Do you work for EA? Just curious.

Poster on BioWare forums likes BioWare.  Must be an employee.

Logic.

The person "spoke to EA game representatives" about a controversy some had reported with Origin. That's not your average forum poster. Logic.

[Eurypterid]

KT Chong wrote...

wolfsite,

I have NEVER paid the full price for the digital version of a game on Steam or GOG, ever, and I will NEVER pay a full price.  The rationale is simple: according to EA, BioWare and all the corporation and their unbridled greed,  nowadays customers are supposedly buying the "license" to play a game, not the actual game itself.    Which means customers are really just "renting" a game when they "buy" digital. 

So.  If I am only "renting" a game,  then I should not have to pay the same prices as buying the actual physical games and actually owning something.   EA, BioWare and coporations may disagree.  However, when I have the physical copies of the games in my hands, they really have very little to no control over what I do with the games.  However, corporations retain full control of digital copies on their digital platforms, which means they can exert control to make sure I do not actually own the games for that I had paid money -- they decide if I get to use the products or not at all time.

So.  If I am only renting, then I should not be paying full "purchase" prices for games.   However, what EA, BioWare and Origin want to do is to normalize the unsavory business model of making people pay full "purchase" prices for rental, for products that people do not actually own.  I refuse to comply.  Which  is why I have stopped buying BioWare games when they adopted that business model.

Steam and GOG have regular sales and deep discounts, so customers get to pay rental prices for rental games, which are the proper prices for  games that people do not actually own.  I pay for a game on Steam and GOG only when it is 60%, 70%, 80% off or more -- because those are the right prices for renting an not owning a game.  I do not ever pay full prices for rental.

The problem with Origin is that EA and BioWare games, even very old games, are rarely discounted.  EA and BioWare are renting games at full retail prices.  IMO, that is just pure ripoff.  Which is why I have avoided Origin.  If EA and BioWare want to charge full prices for their games, then they have to  give me the actual physical copies without any of the digital download BS.  When I pay the full retail prices, I want to own the actual games that I know I can play, 20 or 30 years from now.  With all the digital and DRM and online activation BS, all the stuff you pay for will be useless and unplayable/un-downloadble/un-activatable in a decade or two.

It makes sense for me to "buy" digital with Steam and GOG because their games are appropriately prices: rental prices for games that are actually just rental.  With Origin, it makes zero sense to pay the inflated full retail prices for digital copies that customers do not actually own.

That's my take on it.  I pity the younger generations, the "sheep" generations, who somehow think it's acceptable to pay full retail purchase prices for renting stuff because they do not know better.  They do not there was a time when people could actually own something when they paid money for it.  Nowadays corporations want to own and control everything, even after they make people pay full prices for everything.  They want it to become the new normal.  I still think it is unacceptable.

How is GOG a rental service in your view? You purchase the game, you can DL and burn it to disc, save it on a USB stick, back it up however you want to, and never have to deal with GOG again. You can still play your game 20 to 30 years from now even if GOG no longer exists. I don't see how your justification for never paying full price for a 'rental' applies to GOG.

[wolfsite]

Addai67 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Do you work for EA? Just curious.

Poster on BioWare forums likes BioWare.  Must be an employee.

Logic.

The person "spoke to EA game representatives" about a controversy some had reported with Origin. That's not your average forum poster. Logic.

That's the reaction of someone that wants an answer.  I don't work for EA, I just try to find answers.

[naughty99]

Haven't logged on to Origin for some time so perhaps this has improved recently; however, I seem to recall there was a rather complicated process you must go through to purchase DLC for Bioware games.

I bought DA2 on Steam and unfortunately the DLC never became available on that platform. I wanted to buy Mark of the Assassin and Legacy, and I was directed to download the Origin version. I did this, but there did not seem to be any simple way to buy this DLC content on Origin.

On Steam if I want to purchase DLC for any game, I simply find it in the store, and pay whatever the price is, in dollars (often very heavily discounted). On Origin, I was not able to do this. If I understand correctly, the only way to purchase the DA2 DLC is through buying first some sort of Bioware points cards, that do not correspond exactly to USD, so you end up with a leftover amount that you can't use.

Is this still the case, or has it become a more simple procedure to purchase DLC on Origin?

Or will there be some kind of DA2 ultimate edition download from Amazon including all the DLC? 

Modifié par naughty99, 23 décembre 2013 - 10:30 .

[Maverick827]

Addai67 wrote...

The person "spoke to EA game representatives" about a controversy some had reported with Origin. That's not your average forum poster. Logic.

You know, most companies have this thing called "customer service."

[KT Chong]

Yeah, it slipped my mind that GOG games are DRM-free and do not require any client or activation to work. That is why I prefer GOG over Steam. GOG's only drawback is it has fewer games than Steam.

So, for correction: GOG is *NOT* a rental service. You pay for a game on GOG, and you own it.  For good.   You can download the game, keep it on your hard drive or burn it onto your discs.  The game does not require any client or online activation to work.  So you can still play the game 20 or 30 years from now - even if GOG, the developer and the publisher go out of business.  (If EA or BioWare ever goes out of business, they will take Mass Effect games and DLCs with them into the grave - because there will be no way to activate the games or download the DLCs.)   So GOG offers HUGE advantages over Steam and Origin.

Best of all, the sale prices at GOG have actually become cheaper than Steam since Novermber.

Modifié par KT Chong, 23 décembre 2013 - 10:44 .

[Eurypterid]

naughty99 wrote...


On Steam if I want to purchase DLC for any game, I simply find it in the store, and pay whatever the price is, in dollars (often very heavily discounted). On Origin, I was not able to do this. If I understand correctly, the only way to purchase the DA2 DLC is through buying first some sort of Bioware points cards, that do not correspond exactly to USD, so you end up with a leftover amount that you can't use.

Is this still the case, or has it become a more simple procedure to purchase DLC on Origin?

Or will there be some kind of DA2 ultimate edition download from Amazon including all the DLC? 

There is still a lot of DLC that can't be purchased through the Origin app. As far as leftover points goes, that's not the case for major DLC, but the item packs will get you into that kind of situation. You can buy points in lots of 400, 560, 800 or 1600, but the item packs cost 240 points. All other DLC types fall into the 400, 560, 800 or 1600 points groups. The groups of points that you can purchase do correspond to US dollar amounts though (i.e. 1600 points cost 20 bucks and 800 points cost 10 bucks).

As for Ultimate editions, that doesn't seem to be something EA has in mind for DA2, ME2, or ME3 so far.

[wolfsite]

KT Chong wrote...

Yeah, it slipped my mind that GOG games are DRM-free and do not require any client or activation to work. That is why I prefer GOG over Steam. GOG's only drawback is it has fewer games than Steam.

So, for correction: GOG is *NOT* a rental service. You pay for a game on GOG, and you own it. You can download it and keep it on your hard drive or burn it onto your discs. It does not require any client or online activation to work. So that is a HUGE plus over Steam and Origin.

Best of all, the sale prices at GOG have actually become cheaper than Steam since Novermber.

Plus they have also introduced a refund policy that pretty much trumps any other digital client.

[KT Chong]

That's the thing I like about GOG. When you buy from GOG, you know you will still play the game 20 or 30 years from now - even if GOG, and the developer, and the publisher, go out of business altogether. If EA or BioWare ever goes out of business, they will take Mass Effect and Dragon Age games, along with all the DLCs, with them into the grave - because there will be no way to activate the games or download the DLCs.

Just imagine classic games like Ultima games, Fallout 1 and 2,  Sierra's Quest games, LucasArts adventures, Ultima, Planescape: Torment, all became unplayable and lost in time because the companies that made them went out of business... and took the online activation or some downloadable-from-the-official-servers-only contents with them when they went under.

I have actually re-purchased a lot of games that I already owned on Steam when they came out on GOG, because I know the stuff I own on GOG are mine forever, I own them for good, while Steam still holds a leash to my games on Steam.  Good thing that Steam games are dirt cheap; frankly, I bought games from Steam mostly when they were at least 75% off.  I was willing to pay more to re-purchase the same games on GOG, (the deepest discount at GOG used to be only 60%,) but now GOG has become on par or even cheaper than Steam with sales, so GOG has become even better.

Modifié par KT Chong, 23 décembre 2013 - 10:59 .

[Maverick827]

I don't know why we're considering GOG in a discussion about Steam vs Origin (vs UPlay?). The "O" in "GOG" is very important.

[Cyonan]

Maverick827 wrote...

I don't know why we're considering GOG in a discussion about Steam vs Origin (vs UPlay?). The "O" in "GOG" is very important.

Not nearly as important as it used to be, though.