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The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
And making people die in a fire is?
Modifié par Ryzaki, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:37 .
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
You have the moral logic of an SS officer in national socialist germany. I hope you can at least acknowledge that.
Modifié par ArcherTactlenecks, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:36 .
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
And making people die in a fire is?
dreamgazer wrote...
Orson Scott Card and Westboro Baptist Church in a thread about transgender character inclusivity in a luxury product? Oh, BSN, you gloriously twisted beast.
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
What's this about Westboro Baptist Church?
Do they have transgenders there?
Says the guy who's telling me it would be wrong to hate SS officers.The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
No.The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
Shouldn't you judge the fictional work on it's own merits instead of being a vindictive **** and trying to sabotauge what could be a legitimately good story or rendition for something the movies creators had nothing to do with.
I don't care if Card's books cure cancer.
Being a good person is far more important than being a good writer, and it always will be.Passive?What's wrong with your mind where you think this passive agressive crap against innocent people is okay, or worse, morally right?
Card is not an 'innocent' by any stretch of the term. He is a bigot, and he seeks to oppress others.Wrong. Card hurts me by trying to create a toxic environment for homosexuals. Even if he didn't, he hurts a lot of people I care about deeply.And to answer your quesition, it's because card's expression of his beliefs hurt no one and damage no ones employment.
Boo-****ing-hoo. They made the choice to work on Ender's Game when they didn't have to.Your "expression" of your beliefs by holding a blatant attempt at financial sabotague directly impact hundreds of peoples livelyhood and other peoples careers, over something they had no say or control over.
I'm free to see, or not see, any movie I damn well please for any reason I can conceive, or even for no reason at all. I'm not going to go see The Hobbit films, either, because I hate Tolkien's work and the first one ****ing sucked anyway. But I don't see you shedding a tear for my 'blatant attempt' at financially sabotaging Peter Jackson.
You have the moral logic of an SS officer in national socialist germany. I hope you can at least acknowledge that.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:39 .
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
You have the moral logic of an SS officer in national socialist germany. I hope you can at least acknowledge that.
Lol.
To be fair, not all the SS officers were bad. Just following orders.
Becasue I am talking about the hypocricy in Plantiff's statement. It's an exaggeration, and we all do it. This one a small oneRyzaki wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
1. I was pointing out the hypocricy in the statement. One of many, to be honest.
2. Not that I agree with them, but what makes your beliefs any better than theirs? You believe in equality, so you you can judge people as being worthy of death because they don't? Seems just as hypocritical to me.
1. Where's the hypocrisy in my statement? I NEVER called myself a beacon of justice. Hell I've always admitted I'm an assole and hypocritical. No one here is any beacon of justice or fairness and if they call themselves that there's a 99% chance they're lying out of that hole in their face.
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.2. I don't go to people's funerals and disturb grieving families like a low class piece of human trash. That's the difference. I don't spit on people's raw and recent grief to spread my own message. Also yeah equality I wouldn't give a damn if Westboro's people were gay, black, white, green if they did the crap they did I'd still feel they should burn. That's equality. I judge them on their ****ty actions and for being ****ty people.
eluvianix wrote...
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
What's this about Westboro Baptist Church?
Do they have transgenders there?
Wait, are you serious lol? They hate pretty much anything that isn't straight or white, or any religion other than their own.
Yeah, they are a very antagonistic group.ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
What's this about Westboro Baptist Church?
Do they have transgenders there?
Wait, are you serious lol? They hate pretty much anything that isn't straight or white, or any religion other than their own.
Oh. That's horrible.
People here in Canada don't talk about them much. Well at least, not in the places I've been.
eluvianix wrote...
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
What's this about Westboro Baptist Church?
Do they have transgenders there?
Wait, are you serious lol? They hate pretty much anything that isn't straight or white, or any religion other than their own.
Modifié par The Flying Grey Warden, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:42 .
Br3ad wrote...
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
Lol.
To be fair, not all the SS officers were bad. Just following orders.
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
You have the moral logic of an SS officer in national socialist germany. I hope you can at least acknowledge that.
Lol.
To be fair, not all the SS officers were bad. Just following orders.
Kinda like the order to boycott card?
We've gone full on into the mentally dangerous zone haven't we?
Br3ad wrote...
Becasue I am talking about the hypocricy in Plantiff's statement. It's an exaggeration, and we all do it. This one a small one
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:43 .
It's a coin toss at this point whether the thread will get locked or flat-out erased.dreamgazer wrote...
Orson Scott Card and Westboro Baptist Church in a thread about transgender character inclusivity in a luxury product? Oh, BSN, you gloriously twisted beast.
daveliam wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.
Wait, WHAT?
Are you seriously saying that choosing not to go see a movie is the same thing as picketing a military funeral?
This thread is beyond hope.
Modifié par The Flying Grey Warden, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:43 .
I will say this. Even though there congregation is less than 40, they are probably one of the most visible religious groups in the media, outside of the major Chrisitian religions. Unfortunately, we give them all the attention that they desire. The children however, seem to be leaving, as evidenced by several that have separated. The children I don't wish to see suffer, but the old guy and some of the older members could croak tomorrow and the world would be a better place.The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
What's this about Westboro Baptist Church?
Do they have transgenders there?
Wait, are you serious lol? They hate pretty much anything that isn't straight or white, or any religion other than their own.
They also have a congregation of less then 40. Really they're about as relevent or impactful as the frozen dog turd I stepped in this afternoon. Don't know why there's this big "anti-protest" stuff that goes on with them, when letting them stand there with ther dumb brightly colored signs being ignored is a pretty much fitting reaction to this group of attention ****s.
Not that I want any of them to die mind you. I mean my god, there are children in that group. I'm not a complete souless monster that I'd cheer for child death.
Ryzaki wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
Becasue I am talking about the hypocricy in Plantiff's statement. It's an exaggeration, and we all do it. This one a small one
*shrugs* In that case that's for Plantiff to argue.
Did you even read this, or did you stop at beliefs? We're talking about if someone is worthy of death or not.daveliam wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.
Wait, WHAT?
Are you seriously saying that choosing not to go see a movie is the same thing as picketing a military funeral?
This thread is beyond hope.
Foopydoopydoo wrote...
ArcherTactlenecks wrote...
Lol.
To be fair, not all the SS officers were bad. Just following orders.
They could always not follow orders. The whole "it's not the intstrument that's evil it's the person wielding it" argument has never flown with me.
daveliam wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.
Wait, WHAT?
Are you seriously saying that choosing not to go see a movie is the same thing as picketing a military funeral?
This thread is beyond hope.
Are you for real? What's with all these the insults?The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
daveliam wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
There's no difference there. You're still using your beliefs to judge others as being worthy of a punishment for their beliefs. It's just as wrong and is in no way better.
Wait, WHAT?
Are you seriously saying that choosing not to go see a movie is the same thing as picketing a military funeral?
This thread is beyond hope.
It was over the moment plantiff dawned his LGBTSS uniform and demanded to see everyones privilege papers.
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