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[Garrus1138]

QFE and sometimes QME. Cryo Ammo works really well with projectile weapons, especially with the venom shotgun I am using on these two characters.

[planehazza]

I like using cryo ammo on the BatSol with the Lancer

[Lucky]

capn233 wrote...

The power of Freeze Combo is insignificant next to the power of the Incendiary.

The power of the reegar is insignificant compared to missile glitching...

Honestly if you are going to use broken/glitched mechanics as your comparison then just about everything will suck. That is a silly way to evaluate effectiveness.

That said, I hate cryo ammo and have no use for it.

[Vormav]

Cryo ammo + ADAS + Marksman = Ragnarmook
I seem to recall that being amusing, if a bit hard on the ears.

I sometimes spec various Incinerate capable kits for extra damage to chilled targets and use cryo ammo, but that's been covered.

My favourite use is on vanguards, just because I derive great enjoyment from flying into cryo explosions. Also occasionally used on Smashdepts too because I like how their powers play with it (Smash sounds like smashing things? Yes, please). Mechanically... meh.

Modifié par Kuulvo, 05 décembre 2013 - 07:58 .

[GordianKnot42]

Kuulvo wrote...

Cryo ammo + ADAS + Marksman = Ragnarmook
I seem to recall that being amusing, if a bit hard on the ears.

Just played this yesterday, and good GRIEF it kills things slowly. I would kick in Marksman and watch a Collector Troopers' health slowly disappear over what must have been 7-8 seconds. (Plus I kept ending up near the sniper on our team. Oops.) 

[Rotward]

capn233 wrote...

Last night after I was done playing, I bought some packs to refill equipment and I had something like 260 Cryo Rounds IV.  To use at least one of them before it magically disappeared for the night, I decided to just do one more game, and I would be "that guy" with Cryo Acolyte on a Vorcha Soldier.

We all know that Cryo Rounds are obviously the choice of team players, so what is your preferred character and weapon for using them?  So far really the only thing I like is Cryo Falcon with Concussive Shot.  I think I have tried most of the other gimmicks as well, but maybe there is something I don't know about.

What is a good way to use them?  Or should I try to use my 255 Explosive Rounds III instead?

I like to use them on fast moving targets when the team has a sniper, and if there's anyone with incenerate, I equip cyro and run with them. They're useful, as long as you treat your weapon as a form of cc. 

[Vormav]

GordianKnot42 wrote...

Kuulvo wrote...

Cryo ammo + ADAS + Marksman = Ragnarmook
I seem to recall that being amusing, if a bit hard on the ears.

Just played this yesterday, and good GRIEF it kills things slowly. I would kick in Marksman and watch a Collector Troopers' health slowly disappear over what must have been 7-8 seconds. (Plus I kept ending up near the sniper on our team. Oops.) 

Hmm, it's been a while since I tried that, so I'll concede the point until I try it again. 

[capn233]

I tried out my HSol w/ Venom.  It seemed like vs Reapers it would either kill the units outright or not freeze them, which was somewhat annoying.  At least for trash mobs.

Then I dropped into a random Geth game with it and it was annoying to use against the scourge that are Bombers.

Switched out the Venom for Talon and played a game and that worked better for me.

Then tried out Cryo Falcon Drell Vanguard, which is probably the most fun so far.

For any of the Freeze Combo ones, I will have to burn some respec cards since none of my Incinerate characters have that.  I guess I could do that for the QFE... only question is how many in turret.  Also have to go Duration on Cryo Blast for running Claymore unless I am always shooting.

Vorcha Engineer I could respec, but I just finished grinding a bunch of Vorcha waves the last couple of weeks so I am a little hesitant to do that.

[GordianKnot42]

I go 66644 on QFE. Turret for Cryo Ammo and rockets serves as excellent crowd control.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

Cryo ammo works well on the vorcha hunter, it helps to immobilise the enemy, sub net pining the enemy, subnet staggering those within range, incinerate burning and panicking, cryo cooling them off.

Equipping cryo ammo with the Adas, as it strips their shields, then freezes them to stop them fighting back.

[Evil]

Freeze combo specced SalEng with a scorpion or a venom is a decent use of cryo ammo too.

Not as good as incindiary cheese obviously, but amusing.

A N7 fury could potentially use cryo ammo on an acolyte to freeze mooks before rushing in to BE them, although I haven't tried that myself yet as I use talon with warp ammo usually.

[OniGanon]

Human Sentinel with Talon.

One shot to the face, Throw. Neeeext.

[megabeast37215]

It's pretty awful. Cryo IV ammo should've at least had a 20% damage bonus.

I only use it on the Hsol Concussive shot build. It's useless on the QFE because she doesn't need more health/armor damage, she's got that coveres in spades... She needs shield damage, hence disruptor ammo.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

capn233 wrote...

Why are you wasting cooldowns CB'ing mooks if they can simply be shot?

More importantly, why are you even talking about a single Cryo Blast when the discussion is about combos?

Using your logic, all we should do vs mooks is shoot, and then use the cryo ammo + freeze combo on incinerate vs anything bigger. Why not use cryo blast (really short cooldown), shoot to prime and then hit the armored targets with the freeze combo, setting off a tech explosion in the process while doing 25% multiplicative damage the whole time?

Pardon me if this makes no sense because I've had too much to drink, but I'm pretty sure it does.

[capn233]

megabeast37215 wrote...

I only use it on the Hsol Concussive shot build. It's useless on the QFE because she doesn't need more health/armor damage, she's got that coveres in spades... She needs shield damage, hence disruptor ammo.

Yeah.

I am thinking of trying Cryo Falcon Human Sentinel with Throw spam for the hell of it.

[VaultingFrog]

I call her Frosty The ****.

[Beerfish]

The Adas and Cryo works well for a variety of kits.

[Miniditka77]

You know, I had an idea one time that using the Adas with Cryo rounds on the Krogan Sentinel could be an interesting build.  The theory is to use the Adas to drop shields and chill/freeze stuff, and then use Incinerate for damage and cryo explosions, applying Lift Grenades as necessary.  5/6/6/5/4 is probably the way to go.

I tried it, but then I remembered that I suck with the Adas.  I'm wondering whether someone who is better with the Adas might be able to make it work.  Probably want to bring along a Hurricane as a secondary if you're playing Platinum.

[capn233]

^^ It might work, although I think Falcon is probably the best all around Cryo weapon, especially on characters playing at close range.

I was running a Cryo Falcon Paladin which is actually pretty fun, but every lobby I would join was laggy as crap (that's what I get for trying to play too early).

[Jamesui]

b00g13man wrote...

Jamesui wrote...

QFE or Human Engineer with Incinerate specced for bonus damage to chill/frozen. Gives yourself another source of tech primers, slows down heavy threats, and, if you've got it on a powerful enough shotgun/talon and are a good enough shot, will freeze centurion-tier threats after stripping their shields, all in one shot.

She already has cryo blast for that.

I do realize that, yes, but I kinda derive lulz from slowing target down to a crawl with the double slow application. Also, I don't really get into the cryo-incin-cryo-incin rhythm except for beefier targets.

[Evil]

Miniditka77 wrote...

You know, I had an idea one time that using the Adas with Cryo rounds on the Krogan Sentinel could be an interesting build. The theory is to use the Adas to drop shields and chill/freeze stuff, and then use Incinerate for damage and cryo explosions, applying Lift Grenades as necessary. 5/6/6/5/4 is probably the way to go.

I tried it, but then I remembered that I suck with the Adas. I'm wondering whether someone who is better with the Adas might be able to make it work. Probably want to bring along a Hurricane as a secondary if you're playing Platinum.

I haven't tried the KroSent with a cryo adas, but I do run my BF3Sol with a disruptor adas.

It's a similar idea, but with carnage replacing incinerate and TB's replacing CE's.

The BF3 build works quite well like this, so the KroSent build should do too, although you're right that an anti-armour secondary is a requirement on higher difficulty's.  It's also one of the less exciting kit builds.

It's also worth noting that since carnage and incinerate are both capable of priming FE's and detonating ammo powers simultaneously, you can ammo prime->cast(ammo explosion)->grenade(FE), to increase performance against bosses.

[capn233]

Human Sentinel Cryo Falcon - Throw Spam was basically a bust, at least against Cerberus. Acolyte might work better for that. I mean at least if you want to get a decent amount of Cryo Explosions.

[capn233]

Used Acolyte w/ Cryo on the Sentinel one round, it was ok, not great.

GE w/ Cryo Adas... eh.

Slayer w/ Cryo Falcon was fun. Have all sorts of ways to detonate.

Batarian Adept... Cryo Falcon again then you can Lash or Cluster Grenade. Not bad.

[GriM_AoD]

what you did with the title.... I see it.

[cheflindsay]

Me personally,
shotgun -Venom, then claymore is second.
pistol -paladin followed by eagle.
Assault rifle-striker or falcon
Sniper-Valiant or Black Widow

Keep in mind I am using cryo rounds on the projectile weapons to freeze groups. For example using the striker on a batarian soldier to get revenge on geth for all the stagger they inflict. I enjoy setting up area of effect detonations. Also you can just plain weaken enemies or slow them down.

As far as the pistol and sniper cryo combo, it works well if the target will take only one or two hits to kill, making headshots a breeze. The target will stand perfectly still if you happen to aim too low or hit them while they are on the run.



If it's a tech squad I have no qualms using them, but as a common courtesy I don't use cryo on teams with biotic casters. I treat others as I would want to be treated. I don't want anyone's warp detonating a cryo explosion.