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[TheMyron]

I dunno, I do know that ending as "Shepard the Alliance Operative" instead of "Shepard the Spectre" was bad.

ME1: Shepard the Spectre
ME2: Shepard the Cerberus operative
ME3: Shepard the Alliance operative

I think that's going from cool to lame, don't you think? Even if/when you get your Spectre status reinstated, it gets totally ignored...

[KaiserShep]

TheMyron wrote...

I dunno, I do know that ending as "Shepard the Alliance Operative" instead of "Shepard the Spectre" was bad.

ME1: Shepard the Spectre
ME2: Shepard the Cerberus operative
ME3: Shepard the Alliance operative

I think that's going from cool to lame, don't you think? Even if/when you get your Spectre status reinstated, it gets totally ignored...

To be fair, there isn't a whole lot one could do with the Spectre status once the galaxy is at war with the reapers, but at least there are a few things to be done with it, even if it seems mundane, like authorizing pardons for certain crew members and the sort. In ME2, it really didn't matter, though it's funny how you get your status back in ME3 even if you tell the council to stuff it. 

In ME1, it made the most sense, since the galaxy was in relative peace, but you needed the status to be authorized to explore places where a normal Alliance soldier would be shut out. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 05 décembre 2013 - 09:44 .

[Deathsaurer]

Jack said it in jest, Aria is Aria.

[JamesFaith]

From perspective of long time criminals and sociopath personalities like Jack and Aria majority of people would be "boy scouts".

[Han Shot First]

It is because Shepard is military. That would make him a boyscout to two people with pirate backgrounds. Even RenShep works for 'the man.'

[Deathsaurer]

StreetMagic wrote...

It sucks. They both know better. Even Aria would. There's nothing I did that conveyed "Boy scout-ness" in ME2 with her. You had choices in how you spoke to her and how she saw you.

Jack was more or less comparing you to Superman (biggest boy scout of all, get it?) being the big damn hero saving the day when all seems lost. It wasn't a serious comment on your personality. Aria has a rather... skewed perception of people. Oleg being ruthless

[Han Shot First]

StreetMagic wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

From perspective of long time criminals and sociopath personalities like Jack and Aria majority of people would be "boy scouts".

Earthborn Shepard can still be a reformed criminal. He isn't a boy scout. And even then, he doesn't necessarily need to be all that "reformed". Ruthless Shepard wouldn't. He's merely the "go to" guy the Alliance depends on getting stuff done, no matter the cost.

You can do things in ME2, where even Jack says "Damn, Shepard. I should take lessons from you."

He is still military.

To two people with pirate backgrounds that probably makes him somewhat of a square.

(apologies for now using 1960s slang in two posts)

[KaiserShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

Deathsaurer wrote...

Jack said it in jest, Aria is Aria.

It sucks. They both know better. Even Aria would. There's nothing I did that conveyed "Boy scout-ness" in ME2 with her. You had choices in how you spoke to her and how she saw you.

It's funny. Mass Effect started as a series that pissed Fox News off at one point. Now it tries to be a series that more appealing to the family friendly Red State crowd. Hoorah. Perhaps Shepard should just change the N7 uniform to khaki shorts and start molesting boys to boot. /rant

I didn't know it pissed off Fox News at one point. That actually makes me like the franchise more. Edit: Looking at the story, it's too bad the criticism was more based on misconception/stupidity, but still. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 05 décembre 2013 - 10:04 .

[JamesFaith]

KaiserShep wrote...

I didn't know it pissed off Fox News at one point. That actually makes me like the franchise more. 

Five second of naked blue ass video and they call it pornography.

Quite famous incident because their psychological expert donť play game (she admitted it during that discusion)  and analyze it only from second hand.

Modifié par JamesFaith, 05 décembre 2013 - 10:06 .

[KaiserShep]

Can't say that surprises me.

[Han Shot First]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Deathsaurer wrote...

Jack said it in jest, Aria is Aria.

It sucks. They both know better. Even Aria would. There's nothing I did that conveyed "Boy scout-ness" in ME2 with her. You had choices in how you spoke to her and how she saw you.

It's funny. Mass Effect started as a series that pissed Fox News off at one point. Now it tries to be a series that more appealing to the family friendly Red State crowd. Hoorah. Perhaps Shepard should just change the N7 uniform to khaki shorts and start molesting boys to boot. /rant

I didn't know it pissed off Fox News at one point. That actually makes me like the franchise more. 

The Wikipedia article on the first game actually has a good breakdown of the faux controversy:

On January 21, 2008, a Fox News segment "The Live Desk With Martha MacCallum" discussed Mass Effect with the heading "'SE'XBOX?' New video game shows full digital nudity and sex." MacCallum stated that the game "leaves nothing to the imagination" and features "the ability for players to engage in full graphic sex" where the player gets to decide what happens, cited critics as saying that the Mature-rated game is marketed to children and teenagers, and read a rebuttal from publisher Microsoft stating that the company abides by rating systems and provides monitoring tools for parents. Psychology specialist and author Cooper Lawrence and video game journalist Geoff Keighley were interviewed. Lawrence described sexual content in video games as teaching their active users, adolescent boys, to consider women as objects of desire valued solely for their sexuality. She added that the game's player character is a man who decides how many women he wants to be with. Keighley focused on challenging the accuracy of previous statements, saying it is a choice to play the protagonist as a male or a female. He also described Mass Effect as having an optional, brief sexual situation as the culmination of a romantic relationship in a 30+ hour game, and argued against the extremely false accusations of graphic, full-frontal nudity within the game. MacCallum and Lawrence admitted that they had not actually played the game.

Electronic Arts, BioWare's parent company, requested a correction of "serious errors" from Fox News in an open letter. Fox News responded that EA had been offered a chance to appear on the channel.

On January 25 Lawrence, who had since watched someone play the game for about two-and-a-half hours, retracted her earlier statements in an interview. She added that she had been told the game was similar to pornography, and noted that she "has seen episodes of Lost that are more sexually explicit." In the interim, largely as a reaction from an offended gaming community, her latest book attracted hundreds of customer reviews on Amazon.com which rated it one star out of five. Many of these reviews satirically noted that they had not read her book, but heard from someone else that the book was bad, and thus voted low. In an editorial, G4's Adam Sessler referred to the interview as a "litany of falsehoods" and parodied Lawrence's statements.The controversy came to be known for the fact that the most explicit content actually shown was the side profile of a breast and led to the popularization of the internet meme "alien sideboob."[

Mass Effect (video game)


Though to be fair, I don't think Fox News was actually angered by the game. More like they engaged in sensationalist reporting aimed at their middle-aged demographic, without actually reviewing the product they were reporting on.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 décembre 2013 - 10:10 .

[Han Shot First]

JamesFaith wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

I didn't know it pissed off Fox News at one point. That actually makes me like the franchise more. 

Five second of naked blue ass video and they call it pornography.

Quite famous incident because their psychological expert donť play game (she admitted it during that discusion)  and analyze it only from second hand.

The fan reaction to that was hilarious. After admitting she hadn't played the game, gamers went on Amazon and rated her book with one star, saying they hadn't actually read it but it heard it was terrible.

[KaiserShep]

LOL. Fans. Gotta love 'em. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 05 décembre 2013 - 10:17 .

[JamesFaith]

Han Shot First wrote...

The fan reaction to that was hilarious. After admitting she hadn't played the game, gamers went on Amazon and rated her book with one star, saying they hadn't actually read it but it heard it was terrible.

Yes, I remember it. 

BTW, here is this famous video for people who hadn't pleasure to see it. 

[SwobyJ]

Even the most Renegade Shepard is a boy scout in demeanor and communication compared to Jack and Aria. Even the Renegade tries to get people working together (just through 'Intimidation') for a goal, with the goal taking priority over their feelings.

Aria doesn't even care if people make it, as long as she gets her goal. She really is more Renegade overall than Shepard.

Jack doesn't care about people, period. If she makes it to ME3, sure, that's different, but its only been several months and she won't stop herself from joking towards you.