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[ImaginaryMatter]

StreetMagic wrote...

I'm so old, that me and some friends got giddy finding an abandoned VHS porn tape, in a dirty ditch.. and went home to watch it. That's how obscure porn was for a kid.

Goodness.

[Br3admax]

 Old people with computers......

[SlottsMachine]

^LOL.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Unquestionably for me, I wish Miranda had been a part of the team in ME3. There really was no point to her not being on the team in my opinion.

[Kel Riever]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Unquestionably for me, I wish Miranda had been a part of the team in ME3. There really was no point to her not being on the team in my opinion.

Actually, nor Jacob.  Leaving Cerberus and the genius idea is to leave behind the group of people who would best protect you?  I think not.  At least I can kind of believe the Miranda story, plus her capability.  Jacob...total butt pull that one.

This is strictly story perspective.  I found Jacob to be a generally boring character and from a game play perspective where you are getting rid of old ones to make for the new, sure.  But story wise the lore makes little sense on this.  Not to mention it is just another slight against straight femsheps if they romanced him.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 08 décembre 2013 - 02:07 .

[rekn2]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Unquestionably for me, I wish Miranda had been a part of the team in ME3. There really was no point to her not being on the team in my opinion.

same here but it extends to most of the chars from 2

[o Ventus]

themikefest wrote...

Jack and Miranda.

This. If for no other reason than them being LIs.

I've only mentioned it maybe a hundred times, but there is literally no good reason at all for Miranda NOT to come with you onto the Normandy (assuming you would allow her to). 

Same goes for several others (namely Samara). Miranda and Samara don't even attempt to give you reasons as to why they don't tag along.

[David7204]

Samara yes. Miranda no.

[o Ventus]

David7204 wrote...

Samara yes. Miranda no.

Care to elaborate?

[David7204]

Miranda could have played a satisfying role elsewhere. She didn't, unfortunately, but she could have. She was the lead ME 2 squadmate. I'd much prefer picking someone a little less expected and making them shine. Such as Samara. In any case, I imagine putting on the ship would have led to a lot of 'old crew vs. new crew' bickering which I don't find much merit in.

[o Ventus]

David7204 wrote...

Miranda could have played a satisfying role elsewhere. She didn't, unfortunately, but she could have. She was the lead ME 2 squadmate. I'd much prefer picking someone a little less expected and making them shine. Such as Samara. In any case, I imagine putting on the ship would have led to a lot of 'old crew vs. new crew' bickering which I don't find much merit in.

By this logic, literally any non-squad character could have performed a satisfying role "elsewhere".

What exactly are you arguing?

Also, "lead squadmate"? Aside from the very first mission, you can go the entire game without ever having Miranda on your squad.

Modifié par o Ventus, 08 décembre 2013 - 03:37 .

[David7204]

...Huh?

[Steelcan]

If you are going to diminish the role Miranda should play you need to diminish the role of Cerberus, the two are connected.

[DeathScepter]

Miranda there are thing things are best left unsaid but she has mighty fine ass and the best XO I can hope for. One thing that ME3 lacked is a Proper XO

[Caihn]

Miranda.

[KaiserShep]

DeathScepter wrote...

Miranda there are thing things are best left unsaid but she has mighty fine ass and the best XO I can hope for. One thing that ME3 lacked is a Proper XO

I suppose the hurried escape of the Normandy while random personnel were aboard kind of made it difficult to establish an official #2 under Shepard, which is about the only reason I could really think of that there is no real XO this time around.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 08 décembre 2013 - 10:07 .

[KaiserShep]

David7204 wrote...

Miranda could have played a satisfying role elsewhere. She didn't, unfortunately, but she could have. She was the lead ME 2 squadmate. I'd much prefer picking someone a little less expected and making them shine. Such as Samara. In any case, I imagine putting on the ship would have led to a lot of 'old crew vs. new crew' bickering which I don't find much merit in.

Miranda could have played a satisfying role aboard the Normandy as well, especially since most of the game dealt with fighting back against Cerberus. What exactly do you think the old crew would bicker about? Far as I can tell, there's only one squad member with whom I can see there being a potential point of contention, and that's the VS, and that's after coming back to the ship, at which point his/her mistrust of Shepard has been resolved. Doubtful that Vega would have anything to say about it other than commenting on Miranda's appearance.

[wright1978]

KaiserShep wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Miranda could have played a satisfying role elsewhere. She didn't, unfortunately, but she could have. She was the lead ME 2 squadmate. I'd much prefer picking someone a little less expected and making them shine. Such as Samara. In any case, I imagine putting on the ship would have led to a lot of 'old crew vs. new crew' bickering which I don't find much merit in.

Miranda could have played a satisfying role aboard the Normandy as well, especially since most of the game dealt with fighting back against Cerberus. What exactly do you think the old crew would bicker about? Far as I can tell, there's only one squad member with whom I can see there being a potential point of contention, and that's the VS, and that's after coming back to the ship, at which point his/her mistrust of Shepard has been resolved. Doubtful that Vega would have anything to say about it other than commenting on Miranda's appearance.

I accept that Miranda could have had a satisfying hefty role within the Cerberus arc without being a permanent squadmate/member of normandy crew. However personally for me someone on the squad to act as a bone of contention with the alliance crew would have been a big improvement. I suppose EDI's content could have been rewritten to have facilitated it but Miranda was the ideal fit, especially with the VS potentially coming aboard too.

[DuskWanderer]

I think Miranda was fine as she was: I think bringing her along when there was only a handful of missions left would just not be a good idea.

[Han Shot First]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Unquestionably for me, I wish Miranda had been a part of the team in ME3. There really was no point to her not being on the team in my opinion.

At the very least if she wasn't going to be on the squad, she needed a better plotline. She should have been involved in rallying the unindoctrinated elements of Cerberus, and in undermining the Illusive Man's schemes.

[wright1978]

Han Shot First wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Unquestionably for me, I wish Miranda had been a part of the team in ME3. There really was no point to her not being on the team in my opinion.

At the very least if she wasn't going to be on the squad, she needed a better plotline. She should have been involved in rallying the unindoctrinated elements of Cerberus, and in undermining the Illusive Man's schemes.

Anything would be better than a weak rehash of her me2 loyalty mission. Ideally though yeah i'd love there to be a civil war going on in Cerberus with Miranda trying to rally the rebellious factor that refuses to stomach where TIM is trying to take cerberus in me3.

[Matthias King]

In the time gearing up for Mass Effect 3, before we knew much of anything about it, I naturally assumed Miranda and Jacob would all still be on the Normandy and would play a big role in the game as part of the squad, since they were such huge parts of ME2. And I thought for sure that burning the Illusive Man at the end of ME2 and Miranda and Jacob leaving Cerberus would come back around big time. Of course, when all was said and done, none of the Cerberus/Miranda&Jacob stuff really paid off in any meaningful way. A couple of short conversations with Miranda and her presence (barely) during Sanctuary, and an optional side mission for Jacob that had basically no impact.

I also assumed Jack and Grunt would be permanent fixtures on the Normandy. Them going on their own way in ME3 made a bit more sense, especially since they didn't really have any significant loose story threads left to tie up, unlike Miranda and Jacob. But I still thought they would be part of the ME3 squad.

I figured Samara would go her own way again sooner or later, and I knew Thane didn't have long left to live, so I didn't expect them to be on the Normandy for ME3. Also I figured Zaeed would have his own things to do as well, so I didn't expect any of them to play huge roles in ME3, not as full squad mates anyway.

I also kind of figured Mordin would move on to his own things back with STG, but I assumed he would come back around one way or another regarding the Genophage cure since such a big deal was made of that, so that's one story thread where they actually paid off what they started.

However, I was sure that the huge conspiracy that's alluded to in Stealing Memory was going to have huge implications in ME3 and that Kasumi would play a big part in all of that, so naturally I assumed she would probably still be around, or would get brought back onto the Normandy one way or another. Then in ME3 all it amounted to was a fetch quest with no impact whatsoever. That was quite a disappointment, because Stealing Memory made that out like it was going to be a huge subplot.

Anyway, I thought for sure that Miranda, Jacob, Jack, and Grunt, and possibly Kasumi would come back in a big way in ME3, but they didn't.

[dublin omega 223]

I know the person who made this thread said we cant pick DLC characters but I'm going to put one on my list of characters who should have been on the squad in ME3 anyway.

I say the following should have been squadmates, Grunt, Kasumi, Reegar, Jacob and lastly Balak.

I would have not had Liara as a squadmate in the game if it was up to me, as I didn't like Liara much.

Modifié par dublin omega 223, 09 décembre 2013 - 12:23 .

[zuckendesfleish]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Unquestionably for me, I wish Miranda had been a part of the team in ME3. There really was no point to her not being on the team in my opinion.

Agree, even though I'm not a Miranda fan (I like her, she's a nice and powerful character, just not my favourite). 
The problem is that we already have three variables in the team: Virmire survivor, Garrus and Tali (they can die in ME2) and adding one more would have made development even more complicated. I guess that's why ME2 teammates get slim storylines and Citadel DLC was added to compensate. In other words, time and money