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[Navasha]

Modders tend to make the better hair styles anyway. Bioware doesn't want long hair, because then they have to listen to people complain about clipping issues.

[Fast Jimmy]

Navasha wrote...

Modders tend to make the better hair styles anyway. Bioware doesn't want long hair, because then they have to listen to people complain about clipping issues.

While I am sure Bioware has an aversion to long hair for the very issue of clipping, I think saying the modders can do it better might be a little misleading. A modder only has to make the hair work in the instances the final game demand, and only have to worry about PC limitations (instead of console ones) to boot. 

I think modders can wind up making some better hair than what winds up in the final game most times, but I think it is a bit thorny to say ARE better at doing it. There's a lot to factors and constraints that a modder doesn't have to worry about or deal with when they make their content that a dev would. 

[Fast Jimmy]

Nefla wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Better hair?

What... like better tasting?

Read my original post as well as some of the replies and you will know

Cotton candy tasting hair would be delicious. 

[Nefla]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Hair is one of the hardest things to get perfect when it comes to 3D modeling.

True, but the majority of current games with CC are much better at hair than DA2 and ME3. In fact I haven't seen a modern game with worse hair than those.

[Nefla]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Better hair?

What... like better tasting?

Read my original post as well as some of the replies and you will know

Cotton candy tasting hair would be delicious. 

Not until they invent Wonka TV

[Seival]

Long fancy hair are known to provide big disadvantages in combat, you know?

[werewoof]

Seival wrote...

Long fancy hair are known to provide big disadvantages in combat, you know?

well see that is why it's a video game dear friend

in real life long hair may or may not have been impractical but in a video gave where cleavage holes and boob plates are a-okay (cause leaving your heart exposed is great and so is a concave piece of metal pressed into your sternum) i think we can accept the slightly maybe unrealistic hair 

[Dutchess]

Seival wrote...

Long fancy hair are known to provide big disadvantages in combat, you know?

So does armor with huge spikes, and weapons that are the same size as a grown man. Apparently DA is not concerned with such issues, so I see no problem.

[andy6915]

renjility wrote...

Seival wrote...

Long fancy hair are known to provide big disadvantages in combat, you know?

So does armor with huge spikes, and weapons that are the same size as a grown man. Apparently DA is not concerned with such issues, so I see no problem.

The sword part is true, but how is spiky armor a disadvantage? It has all the advantages as normal armor with the added benefit of being able to possible injure an enemy who hits you the wrong way or tries to get rough with you.

Anyway, I agree that short hair is tactically the better choice. It's why I made my latest lady Cousland have the short boyish hair (the more feminine version though, makes a bunch of tails in the hair). A warrior woman with longer hair than that is unwise.

Modifié par andy69156915, 27 décembre 2013 - 10:31 .

[Knight of Dane]

Seival wrote...

Long fancy hair are known to provide big disadvantages in combat, you know?

We have a character creator for a reason mate.

You keep the short hair and I get mine long<3

[nightscrawl]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

While I am sure Bioware has an aversion to long hair for the very issue of clipping, I think saying the modders can do it better might be a little misleading. A modder only has to make the hair work in the instances the final game demand, and only have to worry about PC limitations (instead of console ones) to boot. 

I think modders can wind up making some better hair than what winds up in the final game most times, but I think it is a bit thorny to say ARE better at doing it. There's a lot to factors and constraints that a modder doesn't have to worry about or deal with when they make their content that a dev would.

How fortuitous that this topic should come up as I have just spent that last two days going through every single DAO hair mod (11!) and editing them to filter out the hairs that I didn't like so the CC options wouldn't be cluttered with dozens of scroll-by options. I think it's safe to say I've seen every single DAO hair option.

Aside from graphical quality (to go with your PC limitations statement), it seems that the modders are more creative with hair styles as well. The DAO hair mod Additional Hairs for DA is almost all short hair or up-dos (avoids clipping!). As far as style goes, some of them are iffy for both lore and taste, but they are different and show that a ton of variety can be had.

One of my favorite hair mods, Tucked Hair, takes actual DAO hair and mods it so it's out of the face. It also has a version of the DA2 Anders hair that I like to use on a fem Cousland Warden who has never been concerned about that sort of thing.

My point is that the devs are, or have been, uncreative when it comes to the various hair options. I believe that they CAN give us a nice variety, which suits the needs and tastes of multiple kinds of players, and still stay within their technical limitations.

DA2 was an improvement. That said, I still want more boy cuts and pony tails for my fem characters.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 28 décembre 2013 - 02:59 .

[ImperatorMortis]

I want a goddamn undercut hairstyle.

Elton John is dead wrote...

WonderNubs23 wrote...

Just add Thor. Let us romance Thor.

Sure but he's dressed as Freyja for the whole time.

I want to vomit so bad right now. 

[LPPrince]

I'm afraid to step into this thread, but yes, long hair would be spectacular

*runs*

[happy_daiz]

^ Especially if it looks like your hair, @Prince. 

Modifié par happy_daiz, 28 décembre 2013 - 03:41 .

[LPPrince]

Caaareful. The last time I was in a hair thread, pictures of me were everywhere.

It got out of hair HAND I MEANT HAND

[NorwegianPirate]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I want a goddamn undercut hairstyle.

Elton John is dead wrote...

WonderNubs23 wrote...

Just add Thor. Let us romance Thor.

Sure but he's dressed as Freyja for the whole time.

I want to vomit so bad right now. 

You have a pretty weak stomach, then. It's an actual myth, although a comedic one.

[LPPrince]

simfamSP wrote...

But dude, your hair is awesome!

Then YOU post a picture of my hair.

People got mad at me last time. Not my fault my hair is how it...okay it is my fault but...

[Gravisanimi]

Whoops Wrong thread,

but I do approve of long hair on both genders, I mean, look at my avi's great long hair.

Modifié par Gravisanimi, 28 décembre 2013 - 06:08 .

[LPPrince]

*rofl at Gravy in wrong thread*

[LPPrince]

Pyrrha Nikos does have fantastic hair, lets be honest

[Dutchess]

andy69156915 wrote...

renjility wrote...

Seival wrote...

Long fancy hair are known to provide big disadvantages in combat, you know?

So does armor with huge spikes, and weapons that are the same size as a grown man. Apparently DA is not concerned with such issues, so I see no problem.

The sword part is true, but how is spiky armor a disadvantage? It has all the advantages as normal armor with the added benefit of being able to possible injure an enemy who hits you the wrong way or tries to get rough with you.

Anyway, I agree that short hair is tactically the better choice. It's why I made my latest lady Cousland have the short boyish hair (the more feminine version though, makes a bunch of tails in the hair). A warrior woman with longer hair than that is unwise.

It seems to me that the wearer could easily hurt himself. Spikes on the shoulders limit vield of vision, which is dangerous in battle. You can get stuck with all those spikes... Horns or other spikey things on helmets can be grabbed by the enemy. 

nightscrawl wrote...

How fortuitous that this topic should come up as I have just spent that last two days going through every single DAO hair mod (11!) and editing them to filter out the hairs that I didn't like so the CC options wouldn't be cluttered with dozens of scroll-by options. I think it's safe to say I've seen every single DAO hair option.

Aside from graphical quality (to go with your PC limitations statement), it seems that the modders are more creative with hair styles as well. The DAO hair mod Additional Hairs for DA is almost all short hair or up-dos (avoids clipping!). As far as style goes, some of them are iffy for both lore and taste, but they are different and show that a ton of variety can be had.

One of my favorite hair mods, Tucked Hair, takes actual DAO hair and mods it so it's out of the face. It also has a version of the DA2 Anders hair that I like to use on a fem Cousland Warden who has never been concerned about that sort of thing.

My point is that the devs are, or have been, uncreative when it comes to the various hair options. I believe that they CAN give us a nice variety, which suits the needs and tastes of multiple kinds of players, and still stay within their technical limitations.

DA2 was an improvement. That said, I still want more boy cuts and pony tails for my fem characters.

I thought I'd just note that pretty much all the hairs in a mod like "additional hairs" have actually been made by Sims modders. Mostly Sims 2.  Modders for DA and Skyrim convert them for their respective games. That's also why some of those hairstyles don't fit a medieval world that well. Still, there is so much out there that modders can easily make a selection of hairs that do fit the world, something which the maker of additional hairs has done very well, I think. 

[Star fury]

Plaintiff wrote...

I want longer hair for guys. Specifically, this longer hair:

Well, if he's mentioned here, then his brother deserves mentioning too.

[Vaedaku]

Star fury wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I want longer hair for guys. Specifically, this longer hair:

Well, if he's mentioned here, then his brother deserves mentioning too.

If hair like that gets added, I will die happy and with no regrets.

[nightscrawl]

renjility wrote...

I thought I'd just note that pretty much all the hairs in a mod like "additional hairs" have actually been made by Sims modders. Mostly Sims 2.  Modders for DA and Skyrim convert them for their respective games. That's also why some of those hairstyles don't fit a medieval world that well. Still, there is so much out there that modders can easily make a selection of hairs that do fit the world, something which the maker of additional hairs has done very well, I think.

I know that, but it doesn't take away from my statement about modder creativity, even though they were originally made for a different game series.

The fact that almost every single DAO hair style has to have those stupid hair worms dangling in front of the face is absurd. Part of the reason is that it doesn't look messy, as if some hairs fell away during combat or from a strong breeze, but rather like they were deliberately placed there. >.<

Modifié par nightscrawl, 28 décembre 2013 - 04:50 .