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[RavenousBear]

After a couple of years with this old & medicore computer (HP 6700y) I believe it is ready to kick the bucket soon. I have very limited knowledge in computer components such as the PSU, Motherboard, GPU, and CPU.

Any suggestions or advice that could help me get the quality components without wasting extra $$$? My maximum budget is $1600 but that would leave me a minor amount of extra $$$ for games. I need the complete package: keyboard, mouse, monitor, and any extra accessories. Either 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 monitor would work for me. My BIL has volunteered to assemble the computer for me but he is too busy at the moment to email me back for advice. Thanks.

[RavenousBear]

Gaming, browsing the internet, using adobe reader, microsoft office and other related software programs. I have no need for video editing, photo editing, or any technical software (such as CAD). So gaming and internet tasks in my case.

[bmwcrazy]

i5 4670 - $225
Z87 mobo - $100
2x4GB DDR3 1600 - $50
3TB 7200 RPM HDD - $140
Geforce GTX 760 - $250
Decent case - $50
Decent PSU - $60
BD Burner $70

All that for less than $900. If I miss anything, please let me know, anyone.

Remember, most of these items are CONSTANTLY on sale. The i5 4670k for example, was going for $200 on Black Friday. Even I managed to grab an i7 4770k for $200 on Black Friday. The 3TB Toshiba 7200RPM HDD on that list is always on sale for less than $100 and if you want to wait, you can get a GTX 760 for $200 easily this holiday season.

It's funny that I can list all the components for a cheap PC, but when it comes to building a PC of my own, I always end up spending thousands.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 06 décembre 2013 - 02:35 .

[RavenousBear]

bmwcrazy wrote...

i5 4670 - $225
Z87 mobo - $100
2x4GB DDR3 1600 - $50
3TB 7200 RPM HDD - $140
Geforce GTX 760 - $250
Decent case - $50
Decent PSU - $60
BD Burner $70

All that for less than $900. If I miss anything, please let me know, anyone.

Remember, most of these items are CONSTANTLY on sale. The i5 4670k for example, was going for $200 on Black Friday. Even I managed to grab an i7 4770k for $200 on Black Friday. The 3TB Toshiba 7200RPM HDD on that list is always on sale for less than $100 and if you want to wait, you can get a GTX 760 for $200 easily this holiday season.

It's funny that I can list all the components for a cheap PC, but when it comes to building a PC of my own, I always end up spending thousands.

I will be getting a new monitor, keyboard, and mouse along with the package.


I heard either to get either the I5-4670K or the I7-4770K. From what I have read the latter is better for other tasks besides gaming such as video editing, but many computer enthusiasts state the I7 is "future-proof" (whatever that means).

With my budget why not go far for the Geforce 770, Geforce 780, or R9 290? Is the 760 a steal at that price? I am ignorant about gpus but I noticed that I can afford these cards and are a huge influence in gaming.

I do not know much about the rest of the components except Corsair, Seasonic are good brands for PSUs. ASUS, Gigabyte, and ASrock are good mobo brands.

Thanks for your build. Inform me if I am missing something obvious.

[bmwcrazy]

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

With my budget why not go far for the Geforce 770, Geforce 780, or R9 290? Is the 760 a steal at that price? I am ignorant about gpus but I noticed that I can afford these cards and are a huge influence in gaming.

Yeah, since you've got more than $700 left to spend, might as well get a powerful GPU like the 290x or even the 780 Ti. 

If you want to get a 290 or a 290x now, you'll probably want to upgrade its cooler down the road since the AMD reference cooler for the 290 is quite loud. Or you can wait for video card makers to come up with their own better and quieter coolers.

Personally, I'm waiting for the next gen nVidia GPU which is due in early 2014. I've given myself a budget of $800 and I'll be using my old GTX 680 until then.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 06 décembre 2013 - 03:15 .

[RavenousBear]

bmwcrazy wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

With my budget why not go far for the Geforce 770, Geforce 780, or R9 290? Is the 760 a steal at that price? I am ignorant about gpus but I noticed that I can afford these cards and are a huge influence in gaming.

Yeah, since you've got more than $700 left to spend, might as well get a powerful GPU like the 290x or even the 780 Ti. 

If you want to get a 290 or a 290x now, you'll probably want to upgrade its cooler down the road since the AMD reference cooler for the 290 is quite loud. Or you can wait for video card makers to come up with their own better and quieter coolers.

Personally, I'm waiting for the next gen nVidia GPU which is due in early 2014. I've given myself a budget of $800 and I'll be using my old GTX 680 until then.

Such high-end cards would require better quality PSUs, around 800-900W? I am a little hesitate about the R9 290 due to the potential heating issues.

This computer is literally falling apart or is suffering from a virus (system restore and anti-virus did not detect any threats).  I am hoping to get my pc before or just after the holidays.

Thanks.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

You better pay the price of becoming a lower class elite among the PC master race. It's 1500$ with all the stuff.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

I have some good advice that might help you out. Whatever you do, don't do this.



As long as it doesn't end up doing that, you should be good.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Also, make sure you have the proper power supply with enough watts to power everything. It's likely you'll need a new one anyway though, since your old computers one will most likely not be enough.

And remember, labeling is your friend, and labeling what wire goes into which socket can really save you a lot of greif in the future. Pictures also help, since they can give you an idea of what you might have done wrong or even help get others to figure it out online.

[RavenousBear]

Rubios wrote...

bmwcrazy wrote...

i5 4670 - $225
Z87 mobo - $100
2x4GB DDR3 1600 - $50
3TB 7200 RPM HDD - $140
Geforce GTX 760 - $250
Decent case - $50
Decent PSU - $60
BD Burner $70

I'd drop the 3TB 7200rpm + BD for a 250GB SSD + 2TB "green" HDD.

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Such high-end cards would require better quality PSUs, around 800-900W? I am a little hesitate about the
R9 290 due to the potential heating issues.

500W is more than enough for any Intel + single GPU setup (including high end) unless you have like 10 hard drives.

For comparison i7-4960X @ 4.2GHz + 780Ti needs ~380W at full load.

1.) What is the function of the SSD? Does it decrease loading times for games?

2.) Yeah I am will be buying one card since it will be my first time and I do not want to toy around with crossfire or SLI options. However I have read conflicting reports on how much W the PSU needs. I rather have extra W from the psu rather than have inadequate W needed.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Good man. That's the way it's done.

[RavenousBear]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

Also, make sure you have the proper power supply with enough watts to power everything. It's likely you'll need a new one anyway though, since your old computers one will most likely not be enough.

And remember, labeling is your friend, and labeling what wire goes into which socket can really save you a lot of greif in the future. Pictures also help, since they can give you an idea of what you might have done wrong or even help get others to figure it out online.

I doubt I will salvage anything from my current computer. The 6700y was not designed for gaming at all.

My BIL is going to assemble it for me since he works in the IT field. However I will be careful to make sure all the parts are compatible, and learn about the wires incase something goes wrong.

I am ready to drop dead so I need to sleep.

[Melra]

I'd put bit more money and thought into motherboard than I did. I just bought something relatively cheap and now can't properly upgrade without getting new motherboard as well.

[bmwcrazy]

Melrache wrote...

I'd put bit more money and thought into
motherboard than I did. I just bought something relatively cheap and now
can't properly upgrade without getting new motherboard as well.

LOL

What kind of motherboard did you get? A mini-ITX?

Rubios wrote...

I'd drop the 3TB 7200rpm + BD for a 250GB SSD + 2TB "green" HDD.

Oh yeah, I forgot about SSD. However I'd rather not get the 2TB WD Green since you could get a 3TB 7200RPM for less than $100 easily. Those things are always on sale.

If you want an SSD, right now there's a 256GB Toshiba Q Series Pro for $144 if you use the the 10% off coupon for Newegg.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 06 décembre 2013 - 06:44 .

[cJohnOne]

In like three years I was looking to get an I5 with a R9 280x being price conscious. Can you tell me something about the the R9 280x? I can't build my own computer so was looking at Ironside computers. Any advice?

[bmwcrazy]

cJohnOne wrote...

In like three years I was looking to get an I5 with a R9 280x being price conscious. Can you tell me something about the the R9 280x? I can't build my own computer so was looking at Ironside computers. Any advice?

The R9 280x is bascially a 7970 (which is already two years old), but three years is a LONG time and by then you'll probably be able to pick one up for pennies on ebay.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 06 décembre 2013 - 09:06 .

[RavenousBear]

I will look into possibly acquiring a SSD. I may not be able to get the best SSD with the cost of other components though.

[Vort3xX]

I would go with something like this, since i convert the currency to usd it may be a little,little piece over 1600$ but not much.

I5 4670K (it's a very good medium budget cpu and overclocks well).

MSI GTX 770 Lightning ( this card is at a very good pricepoint atm and also overclocks really well which gives very good performance for the price).

ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX (not very expensive but of good quality and support all necessary functions including quad sli though this will require overclocks and better psu)

the rest is: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE (ram), Samsung SSD Pro Basic 840-Series 128GB (SSD), Corsair CS 650W 80+ Gold Modular (PSU), 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 64MB (HDD), Noctua NH-C12P SE14 (cpu cooler),
ASUS DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST and Fractal Design Define R4 Black.

This is only PC, i personally wouldn't include monitor and everything within 1600$ in that case i would save a little longer rather than rush.

Modifié par Vort3xX, 07 décembre 2013 - 12:38 .

[RavenousBear]

Vort3xX wrote...

I would go with something like this, since i convert the currency to usd it may be a little,little piece over 1600$ but not much.

I5 4670K (it's a very good medium budget cpu and overclocks well).

MSI GTX 770 Lightning ( this card is at a very good pricepoint atm and also overclocks really well which gives very good performance for the price).

ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX (not very expensive but of good quality and support all necessary functions including quad sli though this will require overclocks and better psu)

the rest is: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE (ram), Samsung SSD Pro Basic 840-Series 128GB (SSD), Corsair CS 650W 80+ Gold Modular (PSU), 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 64MB (HDD), Noctua NH-C12P SE14 (cpu cooler),
ASUS DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST and Fractal Design Define R4 Black.

This is only PC, i personally wouldn't include monitor and everything within 1600$ in that case i would save a little longer rather than rush.

Is this the build you are talking about? I added monitor and accessories with it:

pcpartpicker.com/p/2ghN1

That site is very handy.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I'd take a look at the DIY Supercombos they offer on Newegg. You can easily find a core system, then fill out the rest of the blanks.

This might be a handy starting point, IMO.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 07 décembre 2013 - 05:59 .