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[Vort3xX]

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

I would go with something like this, since i convert the currency to usd it may be a little,little piece over 1600$ but not much.

I5 4670K (it's a very good medium budget cpu and overclocks well).

MSI GTX 770 Lightning ( this card is at a very good pricepoint atm and also overclocks really well which gives very good performance for the price).

ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX (not very expensive but of good quality and support all necessary functions including quad sli though this will require overclocks and better psu)

the rest is: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE (ram), Samsung SSD Pro Basic 840-Series 128GB (SSD), Corsair CS 650W 80+ Gold Modular (PSU), 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 64MB (HDD), Noctua NH-C12P SE14 (cpu cooler),
ASUS DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST and Fractal Design Define R4 Black.

This is only PC, i personally wouldn't include monitor and everything within 1600$ in that case i would save a little longer rather than rush.

Is this the build you are talking about? I added monitor and accessories with it:

pcpartpicker.com/p/2ghN1

That site is very handy.

Pretty much except the videocard, i prefer the Lighting (which isn't much more expensive at all) one over the standard just because how far it can overclock, i mean GTX 770 is already a bit faster than 7970 and 680  but with a +200 or close to it clock to both memory and core clock it can gain quite a few fps which makes the card quite unrivaled for that price point, 280x is not as a good card as GTX 770.

Modifié par Vort3xX, 07 décembre 2013 - 11:11 .

[Vort3xX]

Rubios wrote...

What's the point of using 7200rpm drives on SSD builds?

You like noise or something?

Simply becuase it's a good harddrive for a great price and i feel it's just as easy to upgrade to a larger SSD later and to be fair i've used this case myself, sure it's not very nice to look but it's relativey cheap. very large and functional which leaves room for a lot of upgrades later and a 7200rpm barely sounds anyhting in this case either way.

[bmwcrazy]

Rubios wrote...

What's the point of using 7200rpm drives on SSD builds?

You like noise or something?

Because 7200RPM is much faster than 5400RPM or the WD Green.

Unless you want to use several 10k or 15k RPM drives, the HDD noise should be the least of your concern when it comes to building a gaming PC.

[bmwcrazy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

What? Hardly, only if you can't stand to wait 45 seconds for your PC to boot. If you can, there's no reason to get an SSD.

Edit: or, I've yet to hear one.

It not only shortens your PC's boot time (though it's become a non-issue for those who use Windows 8's fast startup), it also decreases all your games and programs' load time.

It is especially noticeable in games with large open worlds that load the cells and other in-game elements as you run through the game. In games like Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3/NV, and even Deus Ex Human Revolution, SSD practically eliminates most of the stutters and frame rate drops that you get with the traditional HDD when it can't keep up loading the data in the middle of the game.

In the end, it is up to you how you want to spend your money. To most people, it is become harder and harder to resist the performance advantages of SSD and its increasingly attractive pricing.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 07 décembre 2013 - 07:28 .

[RavenousBear]

Looks like almost all the R9 290s been sold out as of now. Will the newer models with better coolers be more expensive than the ones already been released? I am leaning towards either the Gtx 770 or 780 at this point.

I created an account on PcPartPicker with a prototype custom build. It is bit over my budget at $1650 but it is a start (combo deal on Newegg lowers the price of the Video card and Memory by $20):

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gDDP

The site says the parts are compatible at least.

Modifié par LoneWolf8588, 07 décembre 2013 - 10:06 .

[Vort3xX]

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Looks like almost all the R9 290s been sold out as of now. Will the newer models with better coolers be more expensive than the ones already been released? I am leaning towards either the Gtx 770 or 780 at this point.

I created an account on PcPartPicker with a prototype custom build. It is bit over my budget at $1650 but it is a start (combo deal on Newegg lowers the price of the Video card and Memory by $20):

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gDDP

The site says the parts are compatible at least.

 R9 290 do perform considerably better than GTX 770 but yes its reference cooler sucks pretty hard so buy a non reference  Version or just get a cooler which is pretty cheap and while you're at GTX 780, i would say GTX 780 Lightning again since it outperforms Titan (which is by all accounts a gimmick product that's overpriced and only really worth it at 4K gaming or other very high resolutions but even then you'll need several gpu's anyway) even by the factory overclock which is pretty good but the thing with Lightning is that you can push it higher than  most 780's for some really nice performance. Nvidia generally have better driver support too, of these gpu's i would pick GTX 780 Lightning personally.

Modifié par Vort3xX, 07 décembre 2013 - 10:30 .

[RavenousBear]

Vort3xX wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Looks like almost all the R9 290s been sold out as of now. Will the newer models with better coolers be more expensive than the ones already been released? I am leaning towards either the Gtx 770 or 780 at this point.

I created an account on PcPartPicker with a prototype custom build. It is bit over my budget at $1650 but it is a start (combo deal on Newegg lowers the price of the Video card and Memory by $20):

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gDDP

The site says the parts are compatible at least.

 R9 290 do perform considerably better than GTX 770 but yes its reference cooler sucks pretty hard so buy a non reference  Version or just get a cooler which is pretty cheap and while you're at GTX 780, i would say GTX 780 Lightning again since it outperforms Titan (which is by all accounts a gimmick product that's overpriced and only really worth it at 4K gaming or other very high resolutions but even then you'll need several gpu's anyway) even by the factory overclock which is pretty good but the thing with Lightning is that you can push it higher than  most 780's for some really nice performance. Nvidia generally have better driver support too, of these gpu's i would pick GTX 780 Lightning personally.

I do not know when the non-reference R9 290s are coming out or how expensive they will be. Since this is my first time buying parts and such I rather not modify the parts and voiding the warranty.

I chose that GTX 780 because of the combo deal on newegg:
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx

The price is above $1600 anyway and I would love to cut it to down below $1600 total.

[Vort3xX]

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Looks like almost all the R9 290s been sold out as of now. Will the newer models with better coolers be more expensive than the ones already been released? I am leaning towards either the Gtx 770 or 780 at this point.

I created an account on PcPartPicker with a prototype custom build. It is bit over my budget at $1650 but it is a start (combo deal on Newegg lowers the price of the Video card and Memory by $20):

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gDDP

The site says the parts are compatible at least.

 R9 290 do perform considerably better than GTX 770 but yes its reference cooler sucks pretty hard so buy a non reference  Version or just get a cooler which is pretty cheap and while you're at GTX 780, i would say GTX 780 Lightning again since it outperforms Titan (which is by all accounts a gimmick product that's overpriced and only really worth it at 4K gaming or other very high resolutions but even then you'll need several gpu's anyway) even by the factory overclock which is pretty good but the thing with Lightning is that you can push it higher than  most 780's for some really nice performance. Nvidia generally have better driver support too, of these gpu's i would pick GTX 780 Lightning personally.

I do not know when the non-reference R9 290s are coming out or how expensive they will be. Since this is my first time buying parts and such I rather not modify the parts and voiding the warranty.

I chose that GTX 780 because of the combo deal on newegg:
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx

The price is above $1600 anyway and I would love to cut it to down below $1600 total.

Depending on who you buy from but overclocking a gpu meant for overclocking does not usually void your guarantee, it can however shorten the guarantee if you destroy it but if you buy then overlock it you shouldn't have any problems getting a refund and it's extremely rare to actually harm it if you can keep voltage and clocks within the limits, there's lots of guides for newcomers and overclocking ahouldn't put you off from trying since it's really really easy, anyway GTX 780 is a great choice i'm sure you will be happy with it.

[bmwcrazy]

This is what I've bought so far. You probably don't want to use this list. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gI6m

[bmwcrazy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Is that with or without having the game installed on the SSD itself? I thought you had to have the game installed on the SSD to see performance increases in-game.

Of course you have to install the games onto the SSD first. It's not magic. 

For the best result, do a clean install on the new SSD and use it as your primary drive and also for your games.

[Vort3xX]

 Where's the quad GTX 780ti sli in your setup ?  

[bmwcrazy]

Vort3xX wrote...

 Where's the quad GTX 780ti sli in your setup ?  

Waiting for the next gen nVidia GPU.

Only a sucker would get a 780 Ti at this point, nevermind four of them.

[RavenousBear]

Vort3xX wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Looks like almost all the R9 290s been sold out as of now. Will the newer models with better coolers be more expensive than the ones already been released? I am leaning towards either the Gtx 770 or 780 at this point.

I created an account on PcPartPicker with a prototype custom build. It is bit over my budget at $1650 but it is a start (combo deal on Newegg lowers the price of the Video card and Memory by $20):

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gDDP

The site says the parts are compatible at least.

 R9 290 do perform considerably better than GTX 770 but yes its reference cooler sucks pretty hard so buy a non reference  Version or just get a cooler which is pretty cheap and while you're at GTX 780, i would say GTX 780 Lightning again since it outperforms Titan (which is by all accounts a gimmick product that's overpriced and only really worth it at 4K gaming or other very high resolutions but even then you'll need several gpu's anyway) even by the factory overclock which is pretty good but the thing with Lightning is that you can push it higher than  most 780's for some really nice performance. Nvidia generally have better driver support too, of these gpu's i would pick GTX 780 Lightning personally.

I do not know when the non-reference R9 290s are coming out or how expensive they will be. Since this is my first time buying parts and such I rather not modify the parts and voiding the warranty.

I chose that GTX 780 because of the combo deal on newegg:
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx

The price is above $1600 anyway and I would love to cut it to down below $1600 total.

Depending on who you buy from but overclocking a gpu meant for overclocking does not usually void your guarantee, it can however shorten the guarantee if you destroy it but if you buy then overlock it you shouldn't have any problems getting a refund and it's extremely rare to actually harm it if you can keep voltage and clocks within the limits, there's lots of guides for newcomers and overclocking ahouldn't put you off from trying since it's really really easy, anyway GTX 780 is a great choice i'm sure you will be happy with it.

I will probably overclock the gpu though gradually as I get more comfortable with it. I was originally talking about applying aftermarket cooler on the R9 290. I believe such modifications voids the warranty on the card unless I am mistaken.

[RavenousBear]

bmwcrazy wrote...

This is what I've bought so far. You probably don't want to use this list. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gI6m

[Vort3xX]

bmwcrazy wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

 Where's the quad GTX 780ti sli in your setup ?  

Waiting for the next gen nVidia GPU.

Only a sucker would get a 780 Ti at this point, nevermind four of them.

True but i doubt i would have the patience to wait though but yeah GTX 880 is going to be a bit cheaper and more powerful, probably going to be priced like GTX 680 before the price cuts.

[Ghost Lightning]

Wow. The Supernova is pretty competitively priced for what you get. I was considering an NZXT PSU that's around the same price, but only rated at 850 volts and sans EVGA's warranty. Good stuff, will consider.

[bmwcrazy]

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

I will probably overclock the gpu though gradually as I get more comfortable with it. I was originally talking about applying aftermarket cooler on the R9 290. I believe such modifications voids the warranty on the card unless I am mistaken.

Yup, it'd void the warranty.

However, if you could replace the cooler without breaking any warranty seals (if there was even any), they probably wouldn't notice as long as you return the card with the original cooler mounted back on it. 

[Vort3xX]

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

LoneWolf8588 wrote...

Looks like almost all the R9 290s been sold out as of now. Will the newer models with better coolers be more expensive than the ones already been released? I am leaning towards either the Gtx 770 or 780 at this point.

I created an account on PcPartPicker with a prototype custom build. It is bit over my budget at $1650 but it is a start (combo deal on Newegg lowers the price of the Video card and Memory by $20):

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gDDP

The site says the parts are compatible at least.

 R9 290 do perform considerably better than GTX 770 but yes its reference cooler sucks pretty hard so buy a non reference  Version or just get a cooler which is pretty cheap and while you're at GTX 780, i would say GTX 780 Lightning again since it outperforms Titan (which is by all accounts a gimmick product that's overpriced and only really worth it at 4K gaming or other very high resolutions but even then you'll need several gpu's anyway) even by the factory overclock which is pretty good but the thing with Lightning is that you can push it higher than  most 780's for some really nice performance. Nvidia generally have better driver support too, of these gpu's i would pick GTX 780 Lightning personally.

I do not know when the non-reference R9 290s are coming out or how expensive they will be. Since this is my first time buying parts and such I rather not modify the parts and voiding the warranty.

I chose that GTX 780 because of the combo deal on newegg:
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx

The price is above $1600 anyway and I would love to cut it to down below $1600 total.

Depending on who you buy from but overclocking a gpu meant for overclocking does not usually void your guarantee, it can however shorten the guarantee if you destroy it but if you buy then overlock it you shouldn't have any problems getting a refund and it's extremely rare to actually harm it if you can keep voltage and clocks within the limits, there's lots of guides for newcomers and overclocking ahouldn't put you off from trying since it's really really easy, anyway GTX 780 is a great choice i'm sure you will be happy with it.

I will probably overclock the gpu though gradually as I get more comfortable with it. I was originally talking about applying aftermarket cooler on the R9 290. I believe such modifications voids the warranty on the card unless I am mistaken.

 Okay pretty bad then, where i buy they actually refund overclocked cards, EVGA definately does it as well.

[bmwcrazy]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Wow. The Supernova is pretty competitively priced for what you get. I was considering an NZXT PSU that's around the same price, but only rated at 850 volts and sans EVGA's warranty. Good stuff, will consider.

No kidding.

I got mine for $150 after rebate. It is built by "Superflower" which also makes many popular 1 kilowatt PSUs like the 1200-watt PC Power and Cooling Silencer III.

Obviously the build quality won't be as good as the Seasonic units or the awesome Corsair AX1200 made by Flextronics, but with a 10 year warranty, it is hard not to give it a shot.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 08 décembre 2013 - 12:33 .

[bmwcrazy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I figured.

How am I going to fit 900 GB of games on a 128 SSD that's more expensive?

I dunno. Of course it's not a problem for you. But for a budget, I just can't see its worth.

900GB!! 

I have more than 200 games on my Steam catalog and even I had trouble filling up my 512GB Samsung 840 Pro on my previous build.

This time I got a 1TB Samsung Evo solely for my Steam games. You know, just in case, but I doubt I'll ever see 900GB worth of games installed on my PC. That's just nuts.

My storage problem is not games but anime and movies. That I can fill up those 4TB HDDs that I bought in less than a year.