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[liggy002]

 At one point, the story tellers at Bioware were just fans of science fiction.  After some time, they created their own fan fiction ( ME 1 - ME 3).  The fact that this fan fiction was purchased and enjoyed by many does not change the fact that it is still fan fiction.  As such, Bioware's own interpretation of the story does not make it canon nor is their official stance on the story any more valid than yours.

  'Official' is a matter of perspective.  If you don't like how this story turned out, then I encourage you to rewrite what you don't like.  Your own fan fiction is just as valid as their fiction.  If the game itself really bothers you, then develop a new one your self.  Never mind what others tell you isn't possible, just think positively and do what feels right.  If you come to understand this, then realize that the story of Mass Effect is also your story.  What belongs to them also belongs to you.

In the same way, your Shepard is YOUR Shepard.  You choose how the story will play out.  Your story is legitimate.  After coming to this realization, I now understand that the ending I despise is no more valid than my interpretation of the events.  Therefore, I am at peace with the end result of their story.  I only need to finish mine.

Modifié par liggy002, 06 décembre 2013 - 05:19 .

[dreamgazer]

Why not just write your own story?

That's what BioWare did, and invited your headcanon to adapt to their canonical framework.

[KaiserShep]

I just like to head-canon around things in the game that provide material to do so. Anything more, I'd rather just write my own story.

[liggy002]

StreetMagic wrote...

Nah. I might write songs, inspired by years of listening to different rock/jazz/classical tunes I've loved, but I don't let any random Joe say they wrote my songs. They're still mine. I'll give the same respect to Bioware.

Correction, it is their story too but I still stand by my original post.  Their story is no more valid than my interpretation.  Their story was inspired by other works of fiction.  Therefore, it is also fan fiction.

Modifié par liggy002, 06 décembre 2013 - 05:22 .

[Hazegurl]

I agree OP. The fact of the matter is that every story has been told already. We've been telling them for thousands of years. The only thing we can take credit for are the characters created by us and even then they are archtypes of billions of characters that have been written before. Copyright basically protects the arrangement of fiction. If you write a story about an alliance soldier named Commander Shepard whose best friend is a Turian named Garrus then you are violating the copyright. If you write a story about a Commander in the galactic navy whose name is Shepard and his best friend is a reptilian alien named Sven then you're okay no matter how many people will say otherwise.

But yeah, nothing wrong with being inspired by a work of fiction. I don't know why people get so offended about it. and I often find that writers tend to get the most butthurt about fan fiction. Meanwhile most musicians, artists, et al seem to be doing fine with different interpretations of their work.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 06 décembre 2013 - 05:30 .

[dreamgazer]

I really don't understand what actual point you're getting at, OP.

Should writers just stop writing fiction, then?

We all have our own interpretations of fictional material.

[Darks1d3]

Honestly OP, I'm surprised you done this earlier. Even with the EC, there's still enough ambiguity for you to insert your own head cannon. There's also the mehem mod if you feel so inclined.

[liggy002]

dreamgazer wrote...

I really don't understand what actual point you're getting at, OP.

Should writers just stop writing fiction, then?

We all have our own interpretations of fictional material.

No, I am simply stating that those who dislike how the trilogy ended need not despair.  You can always write your own ending or do more than that to find your own happiness.  Corporations exist to make money, not to fulfill individual dreams.  They release what they believe will satisfy most of their customer base.  As a result, it's not the end of the world for those left out of the satisfaction equation.  You can take matters into your own hands.  Sometimes that is what is best anyway.

Modifié par liggy002, 06 décembre 2013 - 05:42 .

[Clayless]

So does this mean I wrote Harry Potter? Or developed Mass Effect?

Where's my money?

[MrMrPendragon]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The original work is, well, the original work.

Fan fiction is fiction based off of the original work.

He's right.

Official may be a matter of perspective, but whoever set the world and its characters, that person sets the fixed point from which all fan-fiction originate.

Sure you can make your own ending. But deep inside you know that its not the *real* ending.

Modifié par ArcherTactlenecks, 06 décembre 2013 - 05:57 .

[AtreiyaN7]

BioWare devs created an original story with original characters in an original universe. It's not fan fiction by any definition because it is not based on anyone else's work, although some of the devs involved were surely fans of the sci-fi genre and took inspiration from it. As for the official-ness of what happens in the ME trilogy (ME1-ME3), BW's story and the endings are officially how things played out and ultimately ended whether you like it or not, especially since it's their intellectual property, not yours.

A fan is certainly free to borrow the devs' characters and their setting to create their own stories based on the ME universe - even make up their own endings if it'll make them happy - but in no way does a work of fan fiction ever supersede that of the original creator(s).

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 06 décembre 2013 - 07:10 .

[NeonFlux117]

liggy002, we all know what this thread needs more of. A certain character perhaps........

[CynicalShep]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

liggy002, we all know what this thread needs more of. A certain character perhaps........

Spiderman?

[Farangbaa]

Translation of opening post:

"Even though BW have officialy discredited IT, there is no canon, so IT is still true.

Lalalalalalalalala I can't heaaar you"

Modifié par Psychevore, 06 décembre 2013 - 08:44 .

[JamesFaith]

Ehm... no, OP.

There is original game with multiple, same relevant ways how to be play.

Then there are interpretations of this work like IT.

An then there are fan fictions like MEHEM.

You just mixed too many too different things in one nonsensical gumbo.

[crimzontearz]

Right, my grandmother died, no need to despair, I can headcanon her to be alive....it's called delusion.

Headcanon is just one step removed from from delusion

[JonathonPR]

Good job OP. You have discovered the truth of all fiction. In some way every story is valid though popularity and acceptance varies. People try to latch onto an "official" story to gain social standing or similar tangible or intangible reward. Years of tabletop roleplaying games has taught me that no matter what the official creators decide to do with a story what matters is what you do with yours, and as soon as you hear, see, or read it the story is yours. After a while you start making your own from scratch with inspiration from others and new imaginings of what can be.

[JonathonPR]

crimzontearz wrote...

Right, my grandmother died, no need to despair, I can headcanon her to be alive....it's called delusion.

Headcanon is just one step removed from from delusion

You are an example of how the internet can be a toxic place filled with foolish and simple people. As arguments go I give yours a D-. Failiue to comprehend proposed ergument, and tendency to project personalised interpretation. You might just have low reading comprehantion and a missunderstanding of common vocabulary. If you are trolling you have earned a F--.

[General TSAR]

All fiction is fictional, but some are more fictional than others.

Modifié par General TSAR, 06 décembre 2013 - 12:26 .

[crimzontearz]

You are an example of how the internet can be a toxic place filled with foolish and simple people. As arguments go I give yours a D-. Failiue to comprehend proposed ergument, and tendency to project personalised interpretation. You might just have low reading comprehantion and a missunderstanding of common vocabulary. If you are trolling you have earned a F--.

and you are an example of utter lack of understanding of the basic principle upon which a TT RPG works in spite if your boasted experience. If I, the DM/ST, tell you that your character is DEAD no matter how much headcanoning you do you are going to have to roll another one comes next session. Of course you CAN keep writing fiction in which he is alive and someone else died BUT that means nothing to our sessions. There is a HUGE difference between what Bioware did with the ME3 ending and the in between campaigns leeway a ST/DM gives the players to decide the fate of their characters.

Also, if you wish to play the "intellectually mightier than thou" at least use correct spelling and learn what analogies abs hyperboles are for