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[KaiserShep]

The First Contact War is only really interesting as a piece of historical data in the lore, rather than something the player should experience. Aside from that, it's a rather small conflict, spanning only 3 months, and ends with the Citadel Council's intervention to establish peace. That doesn't sound like a particularly rousing resolution to create a game around.

[DeinonSlayer]

KaiserShep wrote...

The First Contact War is only really interesting as a piece of historical data in the lore, rather than something the player should experience. Aside from that, it's a rather small conflict, spanning only 3 months, and ends with the Citadel Council's intervention to establish peace. That doesn't sound like a particularly rousing resolution to create a game around.

Considering that the protagonist of your average shooter game is obligated to mow down hundreds of enemy foot soldiers (at least) by themselves, I agree the FCW is too small. I doubt the Turians even took that many casualties in the entire conflict.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

The First Contact War is only really interesting as a piece of historical data in the lore, rather than something the player should experience. Aside from that, it's a rather small conflict, spanning only 3 months, and ends with the Citadel Council's intervention to establish peace. That doesn't sound like a particularly rousing resolution to create a game around.

Considering that the protagonist of your average shooter game is obligated to mow down hundreds of enemy foot soldiers (at least) by themselves, I agree the FCW is too small. I doubt the Turians even took that many casualties in the entire conflict.

They could put Turian zombies in it. No wait. How about Cerberus!

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 14 décembre 2013 - 10:05 .

[KaiserShep]

The Last of Us: Shanxi. Joel with Vanguard powers does sound kind of appealing.

[Sc2mashimaro]

Another possibility that seems to meet the requirements: What if there was a secret project/expedition to an unexplored part of the galaxy or even to another galaxy using an experimental FTL drive with technology unrelated to the Mass Relays prior to the Reaper invasion. This secret expedition, taken by a secret division of the SPECTER organization could have a multi-species crew and take us on a Mass Effect adventure that has nothing to do with Reapers, but doesn't happen before or after or tied to the events of ME1-3. Maybe the drive breaks down and they get stranded or something - creating a parallel universe that can, theoretically, go on as long as they want it to, since the FTL drive may have also bent time in some way so that they moved backwards or something.

Speculations!

[Twilight_Princess]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

Another possibility that seems to meet the requirements: What if there was a secret project/expedition to an unexplored part of the galaxy or even to another galaxy using an experimental FTL drive with technology unrelated to the Mass Relays prior to the Reaper invasion. This secret expedition, taken by a secret division of the SPECTER organization could have a multi-species crew and take us on a Mass Effect adventure that has nothing to do with Reapers, but doesn't happen before or after or tied to the events of ME1-3. Maybe the drive breaks down and they get stranded or something - creating a parallel universe that can, theoretically, go on as long as they want it to, since the FTL drive may have also bent time in some way so that they moved backwards or something.

Speculations!

Indeed! Where do they go from here? Perhaps they will do something like create a parallel universe. But but ,no timey-wimey speculations? We must throw some of that in!

What if the next game starts riiiiiight before shepard makes a crucible decision. The camera is facing the catalyst
and he says “choose”. The Camera then pans far away so you see the reaper battle and the citadel in its entirety. What’s this? A light erupts from the crucible but it’s not red,blue or green? The reapers shut down and are fried, and the geth (if you made peace or spared them) and edi are seen unscathed. It seems as if the war is won...but where’s shepard?

Basically it's a what if scenario. What if something or someone had interfered before shepard made that decision, knowing that whatever he/she was about to do would royally f**k up the universe? What if a race found a crude way to go back to a small point in time (worm hole *shrug*)  and use that small window to stop shepard and give him or her something to alter how the crucible worked? But as a consequence shepard is taken to their point in time , making it appear as if he/she had died!

Thus an alternate reality is created where a new protagonist gets a chance to shine and shepard is a subplot that gets resolved in a less sucky way.

I figured if green space magic is allowed than scientifically explained tears in the fabric of time were A-OK. And maybe the Doctor Who christmas special is coming up and I can't help but wish time travel could fix this mess.

But yeah, Speculations!   ...:happy:...yup, fun this speculating...yup... *soul is slowy being crushed with each speculation*

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 15 décembre 2013 - 06:20 .

[Artifex_Imperius]

if a prequel it could start with first contact war but doesn't have to end there. it could continue to fighting batarian pirates and expanding human influence to just exploring space.

the experience of being the first humans on the citadel. nice

[crimzontearz]

No Hyrule Gal

See that would not be ART

Art is pain and suffering



Tho you would like my idea about the reality swapping sequel I had a few months ago, but it would be WAY too LOK for some

[Sc2mashimaro]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

But but ,no timey-wimey speculations? We must throw some of that in!

Mass Effect: Wibbly Wobbly Balls of Timey Wimey Stuff

Official sequel title, mind you. 

[Twilight_Princess]

crimzontearz wrote...

No Hyrule Gal

See that would not be ART

Art is pain and suffering

Of course of course, I should know better  

Tho you would like my idea about the reality swapping sequel I had a few months ago, but it would be WAY too LOK for some

I'd like to hear it!

[crimzontearz]

Well...

Imagine that the next protagonist is a "singularity" so to speak in a game set not too long after the war with the reapers. He is forced to jump between four parallel realities (one for each possible ending Shepard could have chosen) in order to try and find a way to prevent it all from happening or some such nonsense. Imagine meeting the same characters in each different reality.

Like say the sane Asari in one reality could be mourning the loss if her bondmate after one of the destroyed reapers fell on their unit and be romantically interested in the PC, in another she is happily still married but investigating WHY the reapers are still functional but not responding to communication attempts and repairing the relays and is helpful to the PC. In another she is a preacher of the new green spacemagic religion and left her bondmate to be a spiritual guide BUT she us openly hostile to the PC because she is a zealot and wants to maintain the status quo. In anither she is still a soldier fighting a desperate battle against overwhelming reaper forces after the crucible failed to fire


Always loved these sort of settings...it is just an idea

[Village_Idiot]

crimzontearz wrote...
Imagine that the next protagonist is a "singularity" so to speak in a game set not too long after the war with the reapers. He is forced to jump between four parallel realities (one for each possible ending Shepard could have chosen) in order to try and find a way to prevent it all from happening or some such nonsense. Imagine meeting the same characters in each different reality.

This sounds familiar. Can't put my finger on where from though...

I jest. Though the whole multiverse idea can get crazy convoluted if it isn't handled well. I'm more inclined to think ME4 will be "linear" in this sense, just telling another story within the same setting and period. The galaxy's a big place after all.

[crimzontearz]

As I said the motivation is just an idea...he could just be trying to get back to his own reality where Shepard never existed because Saren never was indoctrinated and the galaxy was actually PREPARED for the reapers and they got their butts properly kicked CONVENTIONALLY

[Twilight_Princess]

Interesting! So would this new hypothetical protagonist be able to make a final decision as to what reality is best? Maybe if you played really well (you know...making your choices matter at the end *cough*) an additional new reality could be made? For example, a new reality where Shepard is alive and the crucible does what everyone assumed it would do, only target the reapers?

It's a fun concept and it does eliminate the issue of the "canon" choice by making it so the player experiences each reality. I imagine the "refuse" visit would be brief one though and a tad empty . Maybe dark energy or something can wiggle its way into the plot to explain the player's ability to jump between parallel realities (if green magic is scientifically sound anything can be now).

Bioware has done something already like this with "Darkspawn Chronicles" . A reality where the warden dies during the joining. Granted it was DLC but they have done it.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 16 décembre 2013 - 02:04 .

[dreamgazer]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

This sounds familiar. Can't put my finger on where from though...

Community, of course.  

[crimzontearz]

Interesting! So would this new hypothetical protagonist be able to make a final decision as to what reality is best? Maybe if you played really well (you know...making your choices matter at the end *cough*) an additional new reality could be made? For example, a new reality where Shepard is alive and the crucible does what everyone assumed it would do, only target the reapers?

It's a fun concept and it does eliminate the issue of the "canon" choice by making it so the player experiences each reality. I imagine the "refuse" visit would be brief one though and a tad empty smilie. Maybe dark energy or something can wiggle its way into the plot to explain the player's ability to jump between parallel realities (if green magic is scientifically sound anything can be now).

Bioware has done something already like this with "Darkspawn Chronicles" . A reality where the warden dies during the joining. Granted it was DLC but they have done it.

glad you like it

[Sc2mashimaro]

crimzontearz wrote...

Well...

Imagine that the next protagonist is a "singularity" so to speak in a game set not too long after the war with the reapers. He is forced to jump between four parallel realities (one for each possible ending Shepard could have chosen) in order to try and find a way to prevent it all from happening or some such nonsense. Imagine meeting the same characters in each different reality.

Like say the sane Asari in one reality could be mourning the loss if her bondmate after one of the destroyed reapers fell on their unit and be romantically interested in the PC, in another she is happily still married but investigating WHY the reapers are still functional but not responding to communication attempts and repairing the relays and is helpful to the PC. In another she is a preacher of the new green spacemagic religion and left her bondmate to be a spiritual guide BUT she us openly hostile to the PC because she is a zealot and wants to maintain the status quo. In anither she is still a soldier fighting a desperate battle against overwhelming reaper forces after the crucible failed to fire


Always loved these sort of settings...it is just an idea

VERY cool idea! Actually, it's a big step better than doing any form of Shepard indoctrination, I think. It supports players who like Shepard picking a particular ending (maybe that choice decides which reality the protaganist comes from) and players who were not fans of the ending in general, while creating a really interesting inter-dimensional time story that is partially a world-reset button and partially in continuity with Shepard's choices. If Bioware isn't doing something like this, they should consider it as a possibility!

EDIT: I thought about it more and this idea doesn't actually exclude ITers either. It would mean the ending really happened, but because the new protagonist is trying to undo Shepard's work, it would be fair for the character(s) to speculate about whether Shepard pulled the trigger on the Crucible because he/she was indoctrinated without giving an answer straight out (since Shepard and crew aren't really around to defend themselves from the accusations, regardless of their truth or lack thereof).

Modifié par Sc2mashimaro, 16 décembre 2013 - 08:33 .

[crimzontearz]

Eh, I am glad you like

Also pardon the spelling I was typing it while walking home on icy ground LOL

[Eryri]

@crimzontearz - That's not a bad idea at all. In fact I'm quite intrigued by it. Especially the thought of resetting the ME universe to a point before that Crucible nonsense ruined everything.

[crimzontearz]

@crimzontearz - That's not a bad idea at all. In fact I'm quite intrigued by it. Especially the thought of resetting the ME universe to a point before that Crucible nonsense ruined everything.

Glad you like...even tho it will likely never happen

[Sc2mashimaro]

I get that, SR72, but if we are talking about stories in the Mass Effect universe that are not about Shepard, it doesn't mean those stories were not affected by his/her actions. I think a story that can really make us feel like we are still in the same universe where Shepard defeated the Reapers would be pretty cool no matter what an individual feels about the ending of ME3.

[SilencedScream]

I honestly don't expect it to do very well at all, regardless of what perspective is taken.

Let's look at Gears of War as just one example - critically acclaimed series, then Judgement comes out and it all but flops. Not bad reviews, but the sales just weren't there. And that was with an ending to the trilogy that didn't bring so much rage, to push people away from future games.

[DarthSliver]

Well I think maybe we should have it were neither choices we had at the end happen but where Shepard when he activated the Crucible sent the galaxy back to modern age, before space travel was possible. Making it were Earth became populated at that time with the mixed races orbiting the planet, with the species that can't live on Earth food obviously not making it. It would be a dark age in galactic society.

The new Mass Effect game would be set after we obtain the knowledge to build Mass Relays, Earth wouldn't called Earth anymore, and humans wouldn't purely dominate the planet to the species that were able to adapt to Earth foods. It would be based few centuries after we built the first Mass Relays and started making contact with known ancient colonies that had been established before the Reaper Threat.

The basic idea would be to keep that the Reaper War did happen but the end didn't come as we saw it play out through the choices.

Thats the most I can think of for now, sounds cool in my head so hopefully you guys like it. Probably would be easier for Bioware to hit the reset button, keep the races we liked in METrilogy and add new ones.

[JamesFaith]

SilencedScream wrote...

Let's look at Gears of War as just one example - critically acclaimed series, then Judgement comes out and it all but flops. Not bad reviews, but the sales just weren't there. And that was with an ending to the trilogy that didn't bring so much rage, to push people away from future games.

GoW Judgement was direct prequel focused on one known character and prelude to known events. Such prequels are historically less succesful then loose ones which are using only setting in fictive universe, but without too big focus on known events and characters.

KOTOR, Deux Ex:Human revolution - these are loose prequels and they were accepted quite different then GoW and Deus Ex already have one sequel with bad reputation before Human Revolution.

Without more details from BW it's too soon to judge quality of potentional prequel, when we can get too widely different types of it.