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So....Everyone is a biotic except Tali? (So far...)


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#26
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javierabegazo wrote...

Biotics

Jack
Miranda
Jacob
Thane
Samara


Non Biotics

Tali
Legion
Garrus
Wrex
Mordin

Zaeed


Same Ratio as ME1 ignoring the DLC Zaeed


Wrex? wut?
also when have you ever seen a biotic salarian?
and whos jack?

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just thought, Grunt uses charge doesn't he? So is that just specific for Krogan's or is he really a Vanguard?


Yes, he uses charge (much like the Krogans you faced in the first game). But there is nothing biotic involved in that, it's not the same as the Vanguards biotic charge.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just thought, Grunt uses charge doesn't he? So is that just specific for Krogan's or is he really a Vanguard?


I know what you're talking about, but I think this is actually a misquote. What they meant was that Grunt will sometimes Charge into combat - he has this move where he run into an enemy and knocks the crap out of them. The same way Krogans would sometimes run at you and beat the hell out of you at close range in ME1. It's not the vanguard charge.

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To clarify, those known to have biotics:



-Miranda

-Jacob

-Jack

-Thane

-Samara



Those not known to have biotics (but who knows!):



-Tali (won't)

-Grunt (unless he obtains them later? Loyalty Achievement is 'Battlemaster')

-Mordin (salarian, probably won't)

-Garrus (won't)

-Legion (won't)

-Zaleed (certainly won't)

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Miranda is sentinel-like, so its more of a cross biotic/tech.



Jacob and Jack are combat/biotic hybrid types.



Thane looks like some sort of Infiltrator/biotic.



Only Samara may be the most pure biotic, but shes also shown with assault rifles so... :P

#31
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rines wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Biotics

Jack
Miranda
Jacob
Thane
Samara


Non Biotics

Tali
Legion
Garrus
Wrex
Mordin

Zaeed


Same Ratio as ME1 ignoring the DLC Zaeed


Wrex? wut?
also when have you ever seen a biotic salarian?
and whos jack?


Where is the biotic salarian in that list? They do exist, but are rather rare and kept back from frontline combat.

Jack is Subject Zero, at least that's what she's called on the polish gameplay video.

#32
SlySpy00

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Only half of the squadmates are biotics. Same as in the first Mass Effect.

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Why would anyone care. I't doesn't matter now anyway. In ME1 biotics were mostly used for 'crowd control' while tech skills dealt damage. Now with the 'improved' systems both are just to kill stuff and make big booms, just with different graphics.

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I don't know that I can tolerate 5 biotics in my team. Lowsy space mages.

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Just to see the general class breakdown, I put together a list of who falls into the Soldier, Engineer, and Biotic headers. Some of this is just guesswork, but here's what I put together:

Soldier                Engineer     Biotic

Grunt                   Miranda       Miranda
Jacob                  Tali              Jacob
Garrus                Garrus         Samara
Thane                 Mordin         Thane
Subject Zero?    Legion?       Subject Zero
Legion?

As we can see here, there may be more Soldiers than anything it's - it's just that Grunt is the only pure soldier. However, it's also possible that Subject Zero is a pure biotic - in which case, excluding the DLC character, there's an equal number of every class in your party. It's also possible that Thane has some tech abilities or that Legion is only an Engineer or Soldier.

Still, when you get right down to it, there's only one pure soldier (Grunt), probably two pure engineers (Tali and Mordin) and then one or two pure biotics (possibly Samara and Subject Zero). So there's a pretty good balance of character-types.

Modifié par Grumpiergoat, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:21 .


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DPSSOC wrote...

I don't know that I can tolerate 5 biotics in my team. Lowsy space mages.


Same.

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lol, sorry about writing Wrex, a total typo there :P

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That was supposed to be Grunt


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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just thought, Grunt uses charge doesn't he? So is that just specific for Krogan's or is he really a Vanguard?


I don't think Grunt uses Charge Skill, I just think he runs at people.

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The Console Version is good wrote...

What about Thane or Garrus? or even the Salarian?


Thane is a biotic.

Tali, Mordin, Grunt, Garrus, Legion and Zaeed (I'm guessing on Zaeed) aren't.

Excluding Zaeed, that's half the original, non-DLC roster that's not Biotic and is a combination of Tech and Soldier.

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Mister Mage wrote...

Thane, Garrus, Mordin, Miranda, and probably Legion.


Thane and Miranda are biotics.

Grunt, Mordin, Garrus, Tali and most likely Legion are not. That's it, IIRC. 

Modifié par Haasth, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:42 .


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Garrus, Mordin, zaeed ,legion, Tali arent.......

Modifié par GmanFresh, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:45 .


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Are the people saying Miranda's not a biotic just making a mistake or do they honestly believe Miranda's not a biotic? Because...she is. Go look at her write-up on the Mass Effect universe page. Then watch one of the videos where she's having a fight with Subject Zero - she uses biotics to push aside the chair that's flung at her.



Miranda's a biotic.

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Besides it also been stated that all of the characters have modified classes specific to themselves. And therefore some class variations they have aren't playable with your own character.

so i'd imagine the list would be more like...

Jacob = (bio) variation of a adept?
Miranda = (bio) variation of a sentinel?
Garrus = Turian Agent
Tali = Quarian Machinist
Zaeed = (probably not bio) Bounty Hunter
Thane = (bio) Assassin
Grunt = just a Krogan
Mordin = Salarian Mad Scientist? (is he even a combat squad member?)
SuZe = (bio) variation of a adept?
Samara = (bio) Asari Justicar
Legion = Geth Stalker?

btw: (bio) meaning Biotic

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Jacob is a vanguard variant, pretty sure. Mordin will be like an engineer.

Grumpiergoat wrote...

Are the people saying Miranda's not
a biotic just making a mistake or do they honestly believe Miranda's
not a biotic? Because...she is. Go look at her write-up on the Mass
Effect universe page. Then watch one of the videos where she's having a
fight with Subject Zero - she uses biotics to push aside the chair
that's flung at her.

Miranda's a biotic.


She's a powerful biotic, just like every biotic on the team. Check out all the character profiles - every biotic is described as a powerful biotic, with Subject Zero being an extremely powerful biotic. Such lazy writing.

Modifié par MrGOH, 20 janvier 2010 - 07:00 .


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Just to clear something up, Salarians can be biotics. They're rare enough that they're not allowed to serve in the military (they feel it would be a waste), so they serve largely as spies or assassins. I'd bet some of the League of One were biotic. Mordin being a biotic is unlikely, but not impossible.

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MrGOH wrote...

She's a powerful biotic, just like every biotic on the team. Check out all the character profiles - every biotic is described as a powerful biotic, with Subject Zero being an extremely powerful biotic. Such lazy writing.


That's not lazy writing. Everyone Shepard recruits should be near about the best at what they do. Otherwise, why the heck would he recruit them? 

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Legion, Mordin. Garrus, Tali, Grunt, Zaeed.

None of these have biotics as far as I know.



When you're on a mission to gather the most dangerous people in the galaxy, there's a large possibility that most of them are biotic.

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I think it was said that ME 2 characters would all be "special" classes that have unique abilities.

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I think they all will differ a bit from the classes Shepard can use. I think this would make sense:

Soldier-like: Grunt and Zaeed

Infiltrator-like: Garrus and Legion

Engineer-like: Tali and Mordin

Sentinel-like: Miranda

Adept-like: Samara and SuZe

Vanguard-like: Jacob and Thane



As Subject Zero is always described as so extremely powerfull as a biotic i would see her as more of an adept than an vanguard.

So we have 5 biotics out of 10/11 and every class (in a wider sense) has two squadmates, except sentinels. But i really can't imagine a use for two sentinel-like squadmates.