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[AmRMa]

Alistair, one save I am queen with him and another I am his mage mistress.

[Senya]

I chose the following:

Anora and Prince Cousland

or, in my other playthroughs

Anora and Hardened!Alistair

I think Anora is the best ruler for Ferelden and she does need a consort with noble blood to keep traditionalists like Eamon happy. That and my Cousland loves her and he'd never forgive me if I did anything bad to her in any of my playthroughs.

[Medhia Nox]

Anora alone - Alistair ran off and became the useless drunk he was destined to be.

[duckley]

Alistair and my Lady Cousland or Alistair alone with my male Cousland as his friend and supporter.

Alistair was very well read and knew a lot about Ferelden history, culture etc. He certainly understood Chantry and Circle politics and a fair bit about the nobility given his years with Eamon. With Cousland and Eamon as his advisors I didnt feel he needed Anora.
Alistair was well liked and could potentially produce an heir albeit unlikely with Lady Cousland.
Alistairs self effacing and dry wit, he could easily be under estimated,
but that would be a mistake... lol

[Lord Raijin]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Anora alone - Alistair ran off and became the useless drunk he was destined to be.

Why so much hate for Alistair?

[durasteel]

DinoSteve wrote...

(Hardened) Alistair and Anora

That.

Seems like the obvious choice to me.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Anora alone - Alistair ran off and became the useless drunk he was destined to be.

Meanie.

[Medhia Nox]

@eluvianix: Well, I asked him NOT to throw a temper tantrum when I decided to spare Loghain... but his weak little mind just couldn't handle it. This man, who let me make every decision up to that point, now threatens to abandon me and the Grey Wardens and the BLIGHT... if he doesn't get his revenge plot fulfilled.

The very thing that spared Loghain - also stopped me from having him executed... so, maybe not so mean?

[Ryzaki]

Br3ad wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

DRTJR wrote...

It's irrelevant who is the infertile one if you put Alistair on the throne since he can produce an heir.

Unless you had him marry Anora, if she is the infertile one.

Becasue Anora cannot be replaced. 

Lrn2Monarch, friend. 

Anora's useful though. She can do most of the dirty dealings Alistair is either incapable of doing or just doesn't want to.

[Angrywolves]

yup mean

[Hellion Rex]

Ryzaki wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

DRTJR wrote...

It's irrelevant who is the infertile one if you put Alistair on the throne since he can produce an heir.

Unless you had him marry Anora, if she is the infertile one.

Becasue Anora cannot be replaced. 

Lrn2Monarch, friend. 

Anora's useful though. She can do most of the dirty dealings Alistair is either incapable of doing or just doesn't want to.

Meh. I wouldn't trust that woman. But Hardened Alistair I believe can keep her in check.

[Big I]

durasteel wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...
(Hardened) Alistair and Anora

That.

Seems like the obvious choice to me.

Same here. Seemed like the best way of uniting the country

[Ryzaki]

eluvianix wrote...
Meh. I wouldn't trust that woman. But Hardened Alistair I believe can keep her in check.

I don't really need to my Warden is either mistress or leaving Fereldan. Either way not an issue.

[Sith Grey Warden]

My first Warden, a Dwarf Commoner had no sense for politics. Anora had to betray him at Arl Howe's mansion, and he could never understand why she had to do that, so there was no way he was giving her the throne. He trusted Alistair, and knew he was a good person. That would do just fine, there's no need for all that nasty backstabbing business. He also did the Dark Ritual because surely Morrigan having the OGB can't be that bad?

My most recent playthrough was as a female human mage who romanced Alistair. He wasn't hardened, and she respected that he didn't want to rule, so she let Anora take the throne. She also anticipated that Alistair would want to make the ultimate sacrifice himself, left him at the gates, and died herself (she didn't even consider the dark ritual because it involved blood magic).

[MKDAWUSS]

I was *this* close to having Prince-Consort Cousland, but in the end, King Alistair became the sole monarch of Ferelden. I have some IU reasons, but most of them are the OOU reasons of added content that doesn't require retcons and revisions.

[SilkieBantam]

I have one where Anora rules alone and one where Alistair rules with my warden. I believe I'm going to use Alistair and my warden as my canon.

[Razored1313]

hardened Alistair and Anora rule in my canon game, but Alistair was a little bit bitter considering i spared Loghain and let him redeem himself against the archdemon....so my warden left and rejoined his fellow grey wardens.

[FireAndBlood]

Hardened Alistair and Anora.

[Lord Raijin]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: Well, I asked him NOT to throw a temper tantrum when I decided to spare Loghain... but his weak little mind just couldn't handle it. This man, who let me make every decision up to that point, now threatens to abandon me and the Grey Wardens and the BLIGHT... if he doesn't get his revenge plot fulfilled.

The very thing that spared Loghain - also stopped me from having him executed... so, maybe not so mean?

You lack of understanding. You see Loghain was hunting down every last Grey warden in Ferelden during the Blight. he would imprison them because he thought in his own insane little mind that he could end the Blight, and could defeat the archdemon himself.... not knowing that it is the tainted blood from the Grey warden that could truly defeat the archdemon. He did it because he wanted to be the hero, not Alistair or the warden, nobody but himself. He became so obsessed with fame that he would risk the lives of everyone in Ferelden to achieve this task.

Alistair had every right to vent his frustrations out on you because you were making a terrible decision when sparing Loghain's life. You were making a mockery out of the Grey wardens by tarnishing it's reputation and honor by forcing this man, who is the enemy of the Grey, to become one of them; a Grey warden. Being a Grey warden should NEVER be a punishment but an honor, and Loghain has none. He is not the same Loghain in the Stolen Throne novel. He is something far worst, unfortunetly.

An addition you would be fuming with red skin and with smoke coming out of your mouth and nostrils if someone who you thought was your bestfriend spared the life of a man that assisted in the death of your brother and your mentor, and then rewarded him by becoming a grey warden.

[Fredvdp]

In the storyline that I will carry over into Inquisition, Anora is queen. The reason is that I didn't want to put a grey warden on the throne for several reasons. First of all, it may seem like a coup, and second of all, the grey wardens take no part in the affairs of men. Anora also seemed like a much more capable ruler.

[Jaison1986]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: Well, I asked him NOT to throw a temper tantrum when I decided to spare Loghain... but his weak little mind just couldn't handle it. This man, who let me make every decision up to that point, now threatens to abandon me and the Grey Wardens and the BLIGHT... if he doesn't get his revenge plot fulfilled.

The very thing that spared Loghain - also stopped me from having him executed... so, maybe not so mean?

You lack of understanding. You see Loghain was hunting down every last Grey warden in Ferelden during the Blight. he would imprison them because he thought in his own insane little mind that he could end the Blight, and could defeat the archdemon himself.... not knowing that it is the tainted blood from the Grey warden that could truly defeat the archdemon. He did it because he wanted to be the hero, not Alistair or the warden, nobody but himself. He became so obsessed with fame that he would risk the lives of everyone in Ferelden to achieve this task.

Alistair had every right to vent his frustrations out on you because you were making a terrible decision when sparing Loghain's life. You were making a mockery out of the Grey wardens by tarnishing it's reputation and honor by forcing this man, who is the enemy of the Grey, to become one of them; a Grey warden. Being a Grey warden should NEVER be a punishment but an honor, and Loghain has none. He is not the same Loghain in the Stolen Throne novel. He is something far worst, unfortunetly.

An addition you would be fuming with red skin and with smoke coming out of your mouth and nostrils if someone who you thought was your bestfriend spared the life of a man that assisted in the death of your brother and your mentor, and then rewarded him by becoming a grey warden.

Being Grey Warden is neither an honor nor an punishiment. It's an calling. An calling to do whatever it takes to stop the blight. That's why I personally like sparing Loghain. It's an simbolic moment were your character becomes an true Grey warden. You stop putting things like honor and morality in first place in order to get the help and power you need to fight the blight. So making Loghain an Grey warden is not an mockery to the order. To them nothing is sacred. Literally victory at any cost. Alistair never understood that. And that's why I think he is not suited into being an warden. He is not ready or willing to do extreme things even if it means victory.

Personally I think Loghain is a lot like Zathrian. His hatred poisoned his mind and didn't allowed to see the bigger picture. But why doesn't he get a shot at redemption? Sten got his, just like Isabela or Leliana. Is he that different?

[Medhia Nox]

@Lord Raijin: So, you like Alistair and you're willing to make up whatever argument suits his support?

Cool.

I let Sten out of his cage after slaughtering a family - I let Zevran live after trying to assassinate me - I even helped Zathrian (who I loathe). I didn't condemn Jowan - I saved the mages in Unbroken Circle (not a fair one since I play mages and it was my old home).

Why - at the END of our journey, would this supposed best friend watch me give a second chance to all these people - and, when it becomes HIS personal vendetta he throws a fit.  (Yes, I'm aware it's a video game - and he's programmed to.) 

For me - the Wardens mean nothing.  Stopping the Blight is all that's important.  If, after defeating an enemy I can make him an ally - I will not waste resources.   The journey to stop this Blight was a chance for redemption for people like Zevran, Sten and Loghain in my playthru. 

Alistair is the only thing I agree with Morrigan about.

Also, me hating Alistair (or any character) isn't a request for you (or anyone) to hate him.  In your playthru, if you were besties, great. 

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 10 décembre 2013 - 02:52 .

[Clockwork_Wings]

It depends on the run. My Couslands typically end up the throne, and I tend to favor Alistair and Anora together. I hope I can fix one through the keep, where Alistair stays with the wardens and Cousland marries Anora.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I have a different Warden for each ending. My main canon is my female noble as Alistair's queen and he was hardened in game.