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[Podge 90]

DIES IST MEINE WASSERMELONE.

I really don't think a punch to Gerrel's breadbasket is enough to truly get your own back on him. I wanted my Shep to come into the room and go all Dr. Eva on him; grabbing him by the face and smashing his head against the console. Then Shep would tell him to go and see Chakwas, a reminder that Shepard is here to help, but don't you dare put his life at risk.

As it is, Gerrel nearly causes the death of the galaxys best hope because of blind bloodlust, and all he gets is a little bit winded.

I think it leaves a lot of people (I did on my current playthrough) feeling like the only way to get revenge on Gerrel is by taking it out on the entire Quarian population, by siding with the Geth.

I should also add that yes, I do wish we could have saved the Geth Dreadnought.  Dat ting got punch n tings.

Modifié par Podge 90, 10 décembre 2013 - 11:34 .

[Farangbaa]

trenq wrote...

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[sr2josh]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. That ship was a lost cause the second the Geth gave the keys to the Reapers. Gerrel was right to destroy it when the opportunity presented itself.

Gerrel opened fire with Shepard and Tali onboard almost killing them if it weren't for Legion/VI.  There should've been a renegade interrupt to shoot Gerrel instead of punching him.

[KaiserShep]

Come on. Even punching Gerrel in the gut is pretty much stretching the limits of what Shepard can get away with consequence free. Shooting him, and then having the admirals stand around like wildebeests after a lion took down one of their calves would just look too ridiculous for words. In their position, human admirals would have left the ship immediately, and cut off all contact.

[Br3admax]

Come on, you have Kaiser in your name. Repost that in German.

[KaiserShep]

I'm not drunk enough to speak German right now, and it's too early in the morning.

[sr2josh]

KaiserShep wrote...

Come on. Even punching Gerrel in the gut is pretty much stretching the limits of what Shepard can get away with consequence free. Shooting him, and then having the admirals stand around like wildebeests after a lion took down one of their calves would just look too ridiculous for words. In their position, human admirals would have left the ship immediately, and cut off all contact.

He tried to get away with murdering one of his fellow Admirals(Tali) and pretty much the only Alliance officer helping his people.  Raan and Xen didn't much are for Gerrel(aging warship) and Koris probably would have shot him too given the opportunity.  The war against the Geth was Gerrel's idea in the first place.

[KaiserShep]

No, he didn't try to get away with murdering anyone. He carelessly took the opportunity once the ship was disabled, but this was not done so with the intent of killing Shepard and Tali. No one knows exactly what Koris would have done, but it doesn't matter.

[sr2josh]

He ignored orders from both Tali and Shepard to hold fire while they were onboard. That's a pretty obvious sign he was going to ignore the fact that he was going to destroy the dreadnought at the expense of murdering a Quarian Admiral and Alliance Commander.

[Rusty Sandusky]

 Regardless of whether Gerrel had intentions to murder he was still a dick and that made punching him all the more satisfying

[Podge 90]

KaiserShep wrote...

Come on. Even punching Gerrel in the gut is pretty much stretching the limits of what Shepard can get away with consequence free. Shooting him, and then having the admirals stand around like wildebeests after a lion took down one of their calves would just look too ridiculous for words. In their position, human admirals would have left the ship immediately, and cut off all contact.

Yes but in the ensuing gob-smacked silence, a VI would break the tension by claiming "Shepard, Human, Spectre Status Recognised".  Above the law, yo'.

In all cereal though, if Shepard had reacted with more severity, it would have allowed players the opportunity to really give it to the Admirals for pursuing this war in the middle of THE REAPER INVASION.

Modifié par Podge 90, 10 décembre 2013 - 01:39 .

[Sir DeLoria]

Podge 90 wrote...

DIES IST MEINE WASSERMELONE.

I really don't think a punch to Gerrel's breadbasket is enough to truly get your own back on him. I wanted my Shep to come into the room and go all Dr. Eva on him; grabbing him by the face and smashing his head against the console. Then Shep would tell him to go and see Chakwas, a reminder that Shepard is here to help, but don't you dare put his life at risk.

As it is, Gerrel nearly causes the death of the galaxys best hope because of blind bloodlust, and all he gets is a little bit winded.

I think it leaves a lot of people (I did on my current playthrough) feeling like the only way to get revenge on Gerrel is by taking it out on the entire Quarian population, by siding with the Geth.

I should also add that yes, I do wish we could have saved the Geth Dreadnought.  Dat ting got punch n tings.

"You tried to kill me, now I'll kill 17 million innocent civilians along with you."

That's a little extreme. It's as if you took revenge on someone who tried to kill you by nuking his entire country.

[Karlone123]

I find it funny when you're up against an enemy with overwhelming firepower, you destroy that and when it comes to them allying with you to face a greater enemy, they no longer have that massive advantage they had. It's like fightin against the Empire, destroying two of their Death Stars and their biggest dreadnought ship, then recruiting them to help you with nothing to offer.

Modifié par Karlone123, 10 décembre 2013 - 05:16 .

[Podge 90]

Necanor wrote...

Podge 90 wrote...

DIES IST MEINE WASSERMELONE.

I really don't think a punch to Gerrel's breadbasket is enough to truly get your own back on him. I wanted my Shep to come into the room and go all Dr. Eva on him; grabbing him by the face and smashing his head against the console. Then Shep would tell him to go and see Chakwas, a reminder that Shepard is here to help, but don't you dare put his life at risk.

As it is, Gerrel nearly causes the death of the galaxys best hope because of blind bloodlust, and all he gets is a little bit winded.

I think it leaves a lot of people (I did on my current playthrough) feeling like the only way to get revenge on Gerrel is by taking it out on the entire Quarian population, by siding with the Geth.

I should also add that yes, I do wish we could have saved the Geth Dreadnought.  Dat ting got punch n tings.

"You tried to kill me, now I'll kill 17 million innocent civilians along with you."

That's a little extreme. It's as if you took revenge on someone who tried to kill you by nuking his entire country.

Which is my point.  We aren't given the option of putting the idiots in their place.

"You tried to kill me, will you work with me, plox?"

[Sir DeLoria]

Podge 90 wrote...

Necanor wrote...


"You tried to kill me, now I'll kill 17 million innocent civilians along with you."

That's a little extreme. It's as if you took revenge on someone who tried to kill you by nuking his entire country.

Which is my point.  We aren't given the option of putting the idiots in their place.

"You tried to kill me, will you work with me, plox?"

So? It's called forgive and forget. The Geth constantly tried to kill you throughout the entire series, Balak tried to kill you twice. Sure, Garrel was an a**hole, but the only one ending up hurt by his little stunt was he himself.

[Deathsaurer]

KaiserShep wrote...

Come on. Even punching Gerrel in the gut is pretty much stretching the limits of what Shepard can get away with consequence free.

No it really isn't. The mission is more important remember? Doesn't matter who you kill or punch or leave for dead. Just ask all those people Vasir has killed.

In their position, human admirals would have left the ship immediately, and cut off all contact.

Yeah maybe. If then wanted to leave nothing was stopping them. Well except for that certain death thing because of the Reaper.

[Hazegurl]

KaiserShep wrote...

Come on. Even punching Gerrel in the gut is pretty much stretching the limits of what Shepard can get away with consequence free. Shooting him, and then having the admirals stand around like wildebeests after a lion took down one of their calves would just look too ridiculous for words. In their position, human admirals would have left the ship immediately, and cut off all contact.

It would have been awesome if punching Gerrel means those useless Quarians would pack up and leave. 

And Shepard can get away with whatever he/she wants. He's a Council Spectre. He could pistol whip Gerrel till his mask crack and dare the other Admirals to touch him. They're on his ship which is filled with his comrades and crew. And it's not like the Council would give a hoot.  

[Podge 90]

Necanor wrote...

Podge 90 wrote...

Necanor wrote...


"You tried to kill me, now I'll kill 17 million innocent civilians along with you." 

That's a little extreme. It's as if you took revenge on someone who tried to kill you by nuking his entire country.

Which is my point.  We aren't given the option of putting the idiots in their place.

"You tried to kill me, will you work with me, plox?"

So? It's called forgive and forget. The Geth constantly tried to kill you throughout the entire series, Balak tried to kill you twice. Sure, Garrel was an a**hole, but the only one ending up hurt by his little stunt was he himself.

Nah my Shepard isn't forgiving that. Perhaps if the other Admirals had stood up to him, but there's a distrubing sense of acquiescence going on between them all, with the exception of Tali - who acknowledges the difference between the heretics and the Geth, unlike your post.

Like I say, there should have been the option to do some damage to Gerrel, other than slapping him in the tummy. That way, people who felt affronted by the Admiralty Board's actions wouldn't have to resort to such extreme measures to kiiiiiind of get the point across that they weren't best pleased with being shot at by a heavy fleet.

Their isolationist culture led them to make an utterly rash and downright dangerous decision and it is unfortunate we're not able to make that apparent to them. I don't want the Quarians to die, but I want their leadership to get some perspective, and the only option for trying to do that in ME3 are either unsatisfactory, or, as you say, laughably extreme.

Modifié par Podge 90, 10 décembre 2013 - 06:32 .

[Sir DeLoria]

Podge 90 wrote...
Nah my Shepard isn't forgiving that. Perhaps if the other Admirals had stood up to him, but there's a distrubing sense of acquiescence going on between them all, with the exception of Tali - who acknowledges the difference between the heretics and the Geth, unlike your post.

Like I say, there should have been the option to do some damage to Gerrel, other than slapping him in the tummy. That way, people who felt affronted by the Admiralty Board's actions wouldn't have to resort to such extreme measures to kiiiiiind of get the point across that they weren't best pleased with being shot at by a heavy fleet.

Their isolationist culture led them to make an utterly rash and downright dangerous decision and it is unfortunate we're not able to make that apparent to them. I don't want the Quarians to die, but I want their leadership to get some perspective, and the only option for trying to do that in ME3 are either unsatisfactory, or, as you say, laughably extreme.

I understand what you mean, the majority of the Admirals are idiots. I wouldn't go as far as to call the Quarian culture 'isolationist', with the exception of their leadership they seem to be far more accepting of others than many other galactic communities(with the exception of the Asari perhaps). It seems more like some of the Admirals are a bunch of ignorant, uppity fools. Though the Quarians obviously aren't the only species with foolish leaders(Wreav, Okir, Sparatus, the Dalatrass, Admiral Mikhailovich to name a few). Btw, not all hostile Geth are Heretics, most of the ones encountered in ME2 are regular Geth. You might just as well blame the regular Geth for the actions of the Heretics, since they decided to let the Heretics loose on the galaxy.

Modifié par Necanor, 10 décembre 2013 - 06:51 .

[Ryzaki]

Hazegurl wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Come on. Even punching Gerrel in the gut is pretty much stretching the limits of what Shepard can get away with consequence free. Shooting him, and then having the admirals stand around like wildebeests after a lion took down one of their calves would just look too ridiculous for words. In their position, human admirals would have left the ship immediately, and cut off all contact.

It would have been awesome if punching Gerrel means those useless Quarians would pack up and leave. 

And Shepard can get away with whatever he/she wants. He's a Council Spectre. He could pistol whip Gerrel till his mask crack and dare the other Admirals to touch him. They're on his ship which is filled with his comrades and crew. And it's not like the Council would give a hoot.  

Yep. Shep could kill Gerrel and other than the Quarians not a single f*** would be given that day.

And god I wanted my Shep to explode about them throwing themselves at the geth. Paragon Shep who asked for peace and their aid against the Reapers seeing that would've probably burst a blood vessel.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 décembre 2013 - 06:57 .

[Sir DeLoria]

Ryzaki wrote...
Yep. Shep could kill Gerrel and other than the Quarians not a single f*** would be given that day. 

And god I wanted my Shep to explode about them throwing themselves at the geth. Paragon Shep who asked for peace and their aid against the Reapers seeing that would've probably burst a blood vessel.

I don't think the other Quarian Admirals would care about his death either to be honest. Captain Kar'Danna would make a much better Admiral in his place:whistle:

[Ryzaki]

Necanor wrote...
I don't think the other Quarian Admirals would care about his death either to be honest. Captain Kar'Danna would make a much better Admiral in his place:whistle:

I don't know why they leave that knucklehead in charge. Good tactics aren't everything. (which is sad because he was one of the more level headed ones in ME2. Don't know wtf happened in ME3).

knucks360 wrote...
Most Quarians are on the side of Zaal'Koris, not Gerrel.

That didn't stop them for letting that idiot put guns on the liveships. (Also I'm almost certain it's a case of loser's remorse. They were all HOMEWORLD! when winning but the second the reapers upgrade happened the qqing started). Otherwise I really can't make sense of the vast majority of people being anti war not to mention the admirals have to step down if they override the conclave. That clearly didn't happen. So most of them in power wanted this war and I'm not buying it just being those in power that wanted it.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 décembre 2013 - 07:13 .

[trenq]

Innocent people led by idiots.

Gerrel was nothing like this ME2, like they want you to choose Geth, but still I believe those civilians don't deserve to die.