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Anyone else wish you could save the Geth Dreadnought?


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#101
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Makes perfect sense given that the quarian admirals also figured that the best time to start another unnecessary war with the geth is in during a Reaper invasion.

Do we need to list the reasons why they had to take back their planet for a fifth time? 


Of course, this is BSN were we discuss the same topics and situations over and over again. Ad infinitum.

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Trying to blow the ship up isn't a terrible idea, trying to blow it up while Shepard is still aboard cause you think he already fixed all your problems even though a Reaper is involved is. Though here's a good question, why wasn't Legion restrained in the Reaper?

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Unfortunately, with hostile geth still swarming the Tikkun system, and the quarian fleet under fire, making an attempt to assume control over the ship would likely be an unacceptable risk, especially given the fact that a ship that large could be housing quite a few mobile platforms, making efforts to secure it a time-consuming process. Until it's certain that every single hostile platform aboard has been eliminated, the ship is useless.


Shepard and co where on that ship. They already took a big risk and aced their mission with a 3 man squad, going through dozens of hostile platforms. As long as the command center (where the controls are) is clear the ship is neutral at worst and allied if they can control it. What was a stupid and unnecessary risk is killing the only person who was working on and capable of making an alliance strong enough to stand a chance against the squids.

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Br3ad wrote...

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Unfortunately, with hostile geth still swarming the Tikkun system, and the quarian fleet under fire, making an attempt to assume control over the ship would likely be an unacceptable risk, especially given the fact that a ship that large could be housing quite a few mobile platforms, making efforts to secure it a time-consuming process. Until it's certain that every single hostile platform aboard has been eliminated, the ship is useless.

Not true in the slightest. Legion could have just as easily used the same method he used on the geth attacking the live ships. The only think risky about it is that Legion would have to help in killing more geth, something he obviously does not enjoy. 


How do you know that this was possible to do aboard the ship? 

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Course he is. :whistle:

Come on, I'm sure you can do better comebacks:?

What you want me to link the destroyed Rannoch slide? Fine

And not a single **** was given that day. [IMG]


Cheap shot.

I am disappointed, guess you're just not that creative. Alas. 


Too many years of Geth/Quarian screaming/yelling same circles. All creativity eroded from me.

Besides everyone can get a different outcome. Well all got prizes. :wizard:

What's my prize? Is it cake? 

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Makes perfect sense given that the quarian admirals also figured that the best time to start another unnecessary war with the geth is in during a Reaper invasion.


Right, because we all know they only invaded to be evil ****s, they should have just kept drifting in space and let the Reapers pick off their ships and destroy their fleet.

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KaiserShep wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Unfortunately, with hostile geth still swarming the Tikkun system, and the quarian fleet under fire, making an attempt to assume control over the ship would likely be an unacceptable risk, especially given the fact that a ship that large could be housing quite a few mobile platforms, making efforts to secure it a time-consuming process. Until it's certain that every single hostile platform aboard has been eliminated, the ship is useless.

Not true in the slightest. Legion could have just as easily used the same method he used on the geth attacking the live ships. The only think risky about it is that Legion would have to help in killing more geth, something he obviously does not enjoy. 


How do you know that this was possible to do aboard the ship? 

Because Legion really needed Shepard's help? Or he just didn't want to do it himself? 

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Shepard and co where on that ship. They already took a big risk and aced their mission with a 3 man squad, going through dozens of hostile platforms. As long as the command center (where the controls are) is clear the ship is neutral at worst and allied if they can control it. What was a stupid and unnecessary risk is killing the only person who was working on and capable of making an alliance strong enough to stand a chance against the squids.


As I said, until it's certain that every single platform is neutralized, the ship is not of much use. No one would man the ship if there was still a chance that a hunter could waltz in cloaked and start firing away.

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Too many years of Geth/Quarian screaming/yelling same circles. All creativity eroded from me.
Besides everyone can get a different outcome. Well all got prizes. :wizard:


Sure, I can agree to that, but if you don't want to get involved in arguments, why post something that might be offensive to one side?

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The story of ME3, it would have been nice if X happened but it isn't really practical.

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Br3ad wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Course he is. :whistle:

Come on, I'm sure you can do better comebacks:?

What you want me to link the destroyed Rannoch slide? Fine

And not a single **** was given that day. [IMG]


Cheap shot.

I am disappointed, guess you're just not that creative. Alas. 


Too many years of Geth/Quarian screaming/yelling same circles. All creativity eroded from me.

Besides everyone can get a different outcome. Well all got prizes. :wizard:

What's my prize? Is it cake? 


The cake is a lie
sopredictable

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Br3ad wrote...

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Br3ad wrote...
Not true in the slightest. Legion could have just as easily used the same method he used on the geth attacking the live ships. The only think risky about it is that Legion would have to help in killing more geth, something he obviously does not enjoy. 


How do you know that this was possible to do aboard the ship? 

Because Legion really needed Shepard's help? Or he just didn't want to do it himself? 


But how would Legion do aboard the dreadnought what it and Shepard do to the geth fighter squadron? Is there some server node that they can access and eliminate similarly to when Shepard enters the consensus? We don't know if such a thing exists aboard the ship. Legion was able to disable the shields, but we don't know if it was capable of actually neutralizing the programs aboard the ship as well.

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KaiserShep wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...
Shepard and co where on that ship. They already took a big risk and aced their mission with a 3 man squad, going through dozens of hostile platforms. As long as the command center (where the controls are) is clear the ship is neutral at worst and allied if they can control it. What was a stupid and unnecessary risk is killing the only person who was working on and capable of making an alliance strong enough to stand a chance against the squids.


As I said, until it's certain that every single platform is neutralized, the ship is not of much use. No one would man the ship if there was still a chance that a hunter could waltz in cloaked and start firing away.


Except they went through claked hunters like a knife through butter. That's why I mentioned that having a 3 man team was pretty unreasonable to begin with. Even so, reinforcement could and should have boarded once the ship was offline.

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So the direction this thread is going it makes me kinda worried people are okay with convoluted scenarios if they result in best case endings. There's already enough convoluted stuff about the dreadnought.

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Necanor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Too many years of Geth/Quarian screaming/yelling same circles. All creativity eroded from me.
Besides everyone can get a different outcome. Well all got prizes. :wizard:


Sure, I can agree to that, but if you don't want to get involved in arguments, why post something that might be offensive to one side?


For the same reason the other side does it in every single geth/quarian thread. I just do the drive by insult for the geth side. *waves little geth flag*

Plus it amuses me to offend people anyone actually getting offended is taking this game way to seriously. (Not to mention I originally posted nothing to be offended over. The Quarians attacking the Geth did drive the Geth to the Reapers arms for self preservation. That's blatantly in game. The whole dead Quarians bit was only because you asked me to).

Br3ad wrote...
What's my prize? Is it cake? 


Your prize was Priority: Earth. Like it or not. :devil:

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KaiserShep wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Br3ad wrote...
Not true in the slightest. Legion could have just as easily used the same method he used on the geth attacking the live ships. The only think risky about it is that Legion would have to help in killing more geth, something he obviously does not enjoy. 


How do you know that this was possible to do aboard the ship? 

Because Legion really needed Shepard's help? Or he just didn't want to do it himself? 


But how would Legion do aboard the dreadnought what it and Shepard do to the geth fighter squadron? Is there some server node that they can access and eliminate similarly to when Shepard enters the consensus? We don't know if such a thing exists aboard the ship. Legion was able to disable the shields, but we don't know if it was capable of actually neutralizing the programs aboard the ship as well.

The ship is linked to the entire Geth consensus, and even if it wasn't, you have no idea how long it could have been disabled for. You're assuming that the ship would have to be taken then and there, and that is not the case necessarily.

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CynicalShep wrote...

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One dreadnought is not going to change anything.

This.


Dextro pls
This is ridiculous.
Then why use drednoughts at all? They get roflstomped by Reapers regardless. Why not just throw rocks at them? I mean what's a dreadnought going to change? Would you say the same thing if that dreadnought which is bigger than any Alliance dreadnoughts ever made was Quarian?

"OMG, save teh useful dreadnought! Is gonna save the galaxy!"


If the dreadnought was quarian, we wouldn't have to risk our lives to take it...

It won't change anything. One ship will not turn the tide. The ship gets destroyed, boohoo. :crying:

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For the same reason the other side does it in every single geth/quarian thread. I just do the drive by insult for the geth side. *waves little geth flag*

Plus it amuses me to offend people anyone actually getting offended is taking this game way to seriously. (Not to mention I originally posted nothing to be offended over. The Quarians attacking the Geth did drive the Geth to the Reapers arms for self preservation. That's blatantly in game. The whole dead Quarians bit was only because you asked me to).


Aye homie, you talkin sh*t about da pixilated race I like? gimme yo irl address lets fight.

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Ryzaki wrote...

For the same reason the other side does it in every single geth/quarian thread. I just do the drive by insult for the geth side. *waves little geth flag*

Plus it amuses me to offend people anyone actually getting offended is taking this game way to seriously. (Not to mention I originally posted nothing to be offended over. The Quarians attacking the Geth did drive the Geth to the Reapers arms for self preservation. That's blatantly in game. The whole dead Quarians bit was only because you asked me to).


No one is getting seriously offended(I hope), it's more of a dirth fight.

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Dextro Milk wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One dreadnought is not going to change anything.

This.


Dextro pls
This is ridiculous.
Then why use drednoughts at all? They get roflstomped by Reapers regardless. Why not just throw rocks at them? I mean what's a dreadnought going to change? Would you say the same thing if that dreadnought which is bigger than any Alliance dreadnoughts ever made was Quarian?

"OMG, save teh useful dreadnought! Is gonna save the galaxy!"


If the dreadnought was quarian, we wouldn't have to risk our lives to take it...

It won't change anything. One ship will not turn the tide. The ship gets destroyed, boohoo. :crying:

That one ship that has enough firepower and shielding to standup to dreadnaught canons. Yeah, it's a very valuable resource, not to metnion the amount of resources that it could help carry within itself. I see no actual way that a dreadnaught could not help. 

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Ryzaki wrote...
Your prize was Priority: Earth. Like it or not. :devil:


Why would you do this? Why? 

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knucks360 wrote...
Aye homie, you talkin sh*t about da pixilated race I like? gimme yo irl address lets fight.



:lol:

Br3ad wrote...

Why would you do this? Why? 


Cause I'm evil duh. :whistle:

Necanor wrote...

No one is getting seriously offended(I hope), it's more of a dirth fight.


You'd be surprised. Some of BSN can get weird when it comes to defending pixels. :?

But between us yeah dirt fight :P 

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The ship is linked to the entire Geth consensus, and even if it wasn't, you have no idea how long it could have been disabled for. You're assuming that the ship would have to be taken then and there, and that is not the case necessarily.


It could be disabled for days, or hours, or even minutes. The fact that no one knows how long the ship will remain disabled is exactly why it has to either be taken right then and there, or be destroyed outright.

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Based on the info about the Geth dreadnought compared to the Sovereign class reaper it would have at least been able to give a sovereign class the run around and last longer than the other ships. I would call it a win to have it. If for nothing else but to save it for the beam run when Harby shows himself, give him a bit of trouble while the ground forces get to the beam.

I don't know why anyone would say it wouldn't matter. It's not like we can afford to just turn away dreadnoughts in the middle of a Reaper war. But then again Shepard and Hackett turned away an opportunity to control reaper ground forces so...

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Based on the info about the Geth dreadnought compared to the Sovereign class reaper it would have at least been able to give a sovereign class the run around and last longer than the other ships. I would call it a win to have it. If for nothing else but to save it for the beam run when Harby shows himself, give him a bit of trouble while the ground forces get to the beam.

I don't know why anyone would say it wouldn't matter. It's not like we can afford to just turn away dreadnoughts in the middle of a Reaper war. But then again Shepard and Hackett turned away an opportunity to control reaper ground forces so...


A Geth Dreadnought would have tough armor against Harby's beam,but no where near as tough as Shepards battle armor!