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Glory! For the Qun or the Imperium?


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 So it appears that there will be Tevinter mooks in DA:I, and they seem to be involved in the plot with the Veil tear. We don’t know if the Qunari will be involved at all, but evidence in the previous games points to an eventual all out Qunari invasion and subsequent war in a future title (Hopefully DA4).

 Some foreshadowing/groundwork may be laid out in DA:I, so whether it be in this game or a future title, who would you back:  Tevinter or the Qun? 

 The two are technically still at war, and both sides have their…issues to be sure, but if you had to side with one over the other, who would it be?

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 10 décembre 2013 - 01:15 .


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I'd support the Qunari to the very southern point of Thedas.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

 So it appears that there will be Tevinter mooks in DA:I, and they seem to be involved in the plot with the Veil tear. We don’t know if the Qunari will be involved at all, but evidence in the previous games points to an eventual all out Qunari invasion and subsequent war in a future title (Hopefully DA4).

Some foreshadowing/groundwork may be laid out in DA:I, so whether it be in this game or a future title, who would you back:  Tevinter or the Qun? 

 The two are technically still at war, and both sides have their…issues to be sure, but if you had to side with one over the other, who would it be?


Based on what I currently know about both, I'm afraid I would be inclined to pick Tevinter. 

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 That would really depend on my character's priorities.


As far as personal, out-of-world likings go, I like the Qunari and a lot of their ideals. Tevinter... not so much.

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Can't we defeat both?
I doubt that there'll be a game when we'll have to pick one of them in their war (unless they'll scrap imports, it's a too world-changing decision).
I think it's more likely that the weakening of several nations in southern Thedas, among the Chantry, the mages and the templars will lead to a Qunari invasion regardless of the war in the North is over.

Modifié par hhh89, 10 décembre 2013 - 01:12 .


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hhh89 wrote...

Can't we defeat both?
I doubt that there'll be a game when we'll have to pick one of them in their war (unless they'll scrap imports, it's a too world-changing decision). I'd choose the Qun only because I want a game with a qunari invasion as the main plot.
I think it's more likely that the weakin of several nations in southern Thedas, among the Chantry, the mages and the templars will lead to a Qunari invasion regardless of the war in the North is over.


Well, the parameters of the question wanted to know which you'd pick if you had no other choice, not, I think, to discuss what the game will or won't allow us to do. I would agree that I don't like the options, but the point of such thought processes is to consider the what if scenario.

Modifié par Silfren, 10 décembre 2013 - 01:14 .


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More Blood for the Blood Mages!

I'd support Tevinter against Orlais let alone the Qunari hordes.

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Tevinter because I can see the other nations being able to take it down if it became too much of a threat. The Qunari? Er... I doubt they could, tbh.

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hhh89 wrote...

Can't we defeat both?
I doubt that there'll be a game when we'll have to pick one of them in their war (unless they'll scrap imports, it's a too world-changing decision).
I think it's more likely that the weakening of several nations in southern Thedas, among the Chantry, the mages and the templars will lead to a Qunari invasion regardless of the war in the North is over.


It could always be the very last game in the series, though to be honest it would be pretty anti-climactic. Either way, if the player's decent they are going to win and get their way.
Personally. I'd like to see a major 'game changer' for these factions. Like a sudden, 'Everyone's a mage!' or 'Hey, there's no more spirits or demons! No need to lock up your mages now!'. I don't know. I know I prefer the Qunari to all the pther civilisations by far, even if I do think they are the best of bad situation. So any choice where I get to side with them is fine by me!

Modifié par Elfman, 10 décembre 2013 - 01:21 .


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For the Imperium.

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@Silfren: you're right, though I really can't decide which side I'd support. I'd probably block for hours.
@Elfman: it might be, but I think that sooner or later there'll be a game with a qunari invasion as the main plot. Depending on how much the qunari are involved in the Veil tears, the crysis on southern Thedas is really a great chance for them.

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It's an interesting question because I think just about any character I can think of from Thedas who isn't already a Qunari or pro Qun rule, would have the perspective that the Qunari as a whole are a greater threat than Tevinter, and thus would side with the Tevinter Imperium, just like the Chantry nations during the Qunari War.
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But I as a player prefer the Qunari to triumph over the Imperium because I find them more interesting antagonists.

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Both are great threats and Thedas is fortunate that they're busy with one another. Still, I think the Qunari are the greater threat given their military strength and technology.

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Ataash Qunari!

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I support team **** this **** I'm out of here.

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Hawke: Screw this I'm outta here.

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hhh89 wrote...

@Silfren: you're right, though I really can't decide which side I'd support. I'd probably block for hours.
@Elfman: it might be, but I think that sooner or later there'll be a game with a qunari invasion as the main plot. Depending on how much the qunari are involved in the Veil tears, the crysis on southern Thedas is really a great chance for them.


Same here, most likely.  My gut reaction is that if I have no other option, I'll support Tevinter over the Qunari any day.  But that's in no way an endorsement of slavery or blood magic or general magical abuse.  It truly is the lesser of two evils.  Ideally, I agree with the statement that Thedas has been fortunate that both factions have thus far been too preoccupied with fighting each other to cause problems for anyone else.

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This is supposed to be a hard choice. You HAVE to pick one.

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Anaan esaam Qun!!

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I'd really like to know more about both societies before making a final choice. From what I know of them though I would go with the Imperium winning. If I was a mundane perhaps I could join the army and perform well enough to obtain some status or a posting well away from any of the high ranking mages. With the qun well. I don't want my head removed because I started humming a song or skipped meditations to do some paperwork.

If I was really fortunate in the imperium perhaps I would be able to get a sponsor and could conduct some magic experiments.

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Silfren wrote...

Same here, most likely.  My gut reaction is that if I have no other option, I'll support Tevinter over the Qunari any day.  But that's in no way an endorsement of slavery or blood magic or general magical abuse.  It truly is the lesser of two evils.  Ideally, I agree with the statement that Thedas has been fortunate that both factions have thus far been too preoccupied with fighting each other to cause problems for anyone else. 

I agree, choosing one ovet the other doesn't mean you support their system. And I agree on Thedas being lucky that they're having a power struggle. It'd be the end for southern Thedas if they ever decided to ally, though I'd say the changes are almost non-existant.

@sandalisthemaker: I know that it's supposed to be an hard choice. But in the scenario that you propose, my solution would probably be to let a coin decide. 

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Glory for the mighty Imperium!!!

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Assuming I can't send both the Qun and Tevinter back to the hell that spawned them, I'd have to back Tevinter. I'll take the devil I can understand over the bizarro devil.

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hhh89 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Same here, most likely.  My gut reaction is that if I have no other option, I'll support Tevinter over the Qunari any day.  But that's in no way an endorsement of slavery or blood magic or general magical abuse.  It truly is the lesser of two evils.  Ideally, I agree with the statement that Thedas has been fortunate that both factions have thus far been too preoccupied with fighting each other to cause problems for anyone else. 

I agree, choosing one ovet the other doesn't mean you support their system. And I agree on Thedas being lucky that they're having a power struggle. It'd be the end for southern Thedas if they ever decided to ally, though I'd say the changes are almost non-existant.

@sandalisthemaker: I know that it's supposed to be an hard choice. But in the scenario that you propose, my solution would probably be to let a coin decide. 


I don't think that any such alliance between the two is ever possible, from a canon standpoint.  The one is too fanatically idealistic, and the other too focused on the embracing of individual power and influence.  But it would actually be fun, now I think about it, to consider a scenario in which two powerful personages within each faction ended up forming some kind of shadow-alliance, especially if one or both thought they could manage to screw the other.