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[dragonflight288]

eluvianix wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Kaiser Arian wrote...

But it has never been about happiness or FREEDOM™. It's been about being meaningful and useful... *mind blows*

A happy worker is a productive worker
A productive worker is a usefull worker.

Take your daily prescribed dose of happy pills, citizen 5682450

Not a fan of 1985?

Don't you mean 1984?

[Lotion Soronarr]

JulianWellpit wrote...
As long as it is by the respective own accord, I don't see a problem with it. If it is forced...well, it's like killing the person that you were and replacing it with another one that lives in your body.

And yet, the you of now and you 10 years ago can be compeltely different. Does that mean the you of now murdered the previous you?
Change is inevitable.

[Hellion Rex]

dragonflight288 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Kaiser Arian wrote...

But it has never been about happiness or FREEDOM™. It's been about being meaningful and useful... *mind blows*

A happy worker is a productive worker
A productive worker is a usefull worker.

Take your daily prescribed dose of happy pills, citizen 5682450

Not a fan of 1985?

Don't you mean 1984?

*looks at post* I have no idea what you are talking about.

[dragonflight288]

Do you speak Newspeak?

[Hellion Rex]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Do you speak Newspeak?

I speak doubleplusgood.

[Rhayth]

I'd probably support the Tevinter just for the sake of not having to have a future war with the Qun. The Qun believes that war is inevitable so there is no reason to support them in defeating another faction. I feel comfortable with the ability to stand my ground against the Tevinter.

[Ieldra]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...
As long as it is by the respective own accord, I don't see a problem with it. If it is forced...well, it's like killing the person that you were and replacing it with another one that lives in your body.

And yet, the you of now and you 10 years ago can be compeltely different. Does that mean the you of now murdered the previous you?
Change is inevitable.

But change by anothers' agency is not. IMO the fundamental mistrust we have as humans towards others' attempts to do something to us "for our own good" is, as a rule, entirely justified. All "sacredness" of our natural identities aside, the pragmatic aspect of our moral injunction against things like brainwashing is based on this insight into human nature: that if someone wants to brainwash you, you can, as a rule, assume that this serves their interest more than yours. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 décembre 2013 - 11:16 .

[Dermain]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Do you speak Newspeak?

Amusingly we are slowly headed that way with all these great acronyms!

While I like some aspects of the Qunari, I am quite certain I will support the Imperium.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

JulianWellpit wrote...
As long as it is by the respective own accord, I don't see a problem with it. If it is forced...well, it's like killing the person that you were and replacing it with another one that lives in your body.

And yet, the you of now and you 10 years ago can be compeltely different. Does that mean the you of now murdered the previous you?
Change is inevitable.

But change by anothers' agency is not. IMO the fundamental mistrust we have as humans towards others' attempts to do something to us "for our own good" is, as a rule, entirely justified. All "sacredness" of our natural identities aside, the pragmatic aspect of our moral injunction against things like brainwashing is based on this insight into human nature: that if someone wants to brainwash you, you can, as a rule, assume that this serves their interest more than yours. 

And yet we allow ourselves to be brainwashed every single day. We just call it "education", "commercials" and "politics" instead to make it more palatable. But don't fool yourself, you and I and everybody else was brainwashed from the day we were born.

[Laughing_Man]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

And yet we allow ourselves to be brainwashed every single day. We just call it "education", "commercials" and "politics" instead to make it more palatable. But don't fool yourself, you and I and everybody else was brainwashed from the day we were born.

"Brainwashing" is used to cause a group of people to follow a single idea or a belief system.
If "we" (who is even "we"?) are being brainwashed, whoever is doing it is failing miserably.
Just take a look at BSN and you can see just how many conflicting opinions "we" have on practicaly anything.

[DarthSliver]

I would side with the Qun because if we end up taking back what is ours, at least maybe some of the good fundamental principles of Qun that allow it to function so well will have rubbed off on us. I find some of the stuff about the Qun to be good, it just needs another viewpoint for to function with excellent precision.

So I look at it from what would benefit us more if we came back from it.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

My point was that it wasn't the Imperium that was keeping them from attacking the rest of Thedas. They would attack anyway, when they are ready.

[DarthSideus2]

I always play as a mage, so Tevinter it is.

Modifié par DarthSideus2, 19 décembre 2013 - 01:36 .

[andy6915]

Neither, they both suck and both need taken down a peg.

[andy6915]

DRTJR wrote...

 "Education"




Isabela is heading for a "Re-Education" here

Oh no... Bioware's canon has Isabella being handed over the the Arishok? That's awful.