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[eyezonlyii]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Not really OP. Everyone from ME1 is off the crew in my opinion. Subtract Morinth, Mordin, Legion, Thane, Jack, Samara, Grunt, and EDI as well.

I'd have liked having more OC's that weren't a part of the alliance and were independent and had dark backgrounds.

I'd have a mix of ME2 crew, VS and new characters plus James and Javik. Maybe just a rotating squad based upon the missions in the game or whoever you want to pick up along the way. I don' necessarily need "dark" backgrounds to have an ineesting character. For me, Kaidan is one of he more interesting people, simply because he's like "yeah, his happened to me, and I got over it"

I would not have personally brought back:
Garrus (instead we would get Victus as Sabateur Engineer)
Tali (instead we get Reegar as a Marksman Soldier)
Liara (any other Asari as an Infiltrator Huntress)

On top of:
James would have been an Adept
With Miranda as Sentinel and Corporal Toombs as Vanguard (fan canon, sorry)
Kaidan/Ashley closer to their N7 muliplayer counterparts (with Ash as an infiltrator type as she carries a sniper rifle now and keep Kaidan as a biotic Paladin) 

I feel that this way we would get to see some new faces and get a preview of some of the multiplaer classes in the single player to boot. Also it frees the races from their stereotype professions (in my opinion anyway). The reason I changed James is simple, aside from Kaidan (and possibly Shepard himself) there are no instances of biotically gifted human males (actually aside from Wrex, males in general) in the universe. 
 
 

[Matthias King]

A conversation similar to this is also taking place in another thread, it seems that Bioware's choices with ME2's squad mates are still on people's minds.

I was pretty happy with ME3's squad for the most part, but as I mentioned in the other thread there were some story threads from ME2 that seemed like they should have played out further, and a few of the ME2 squad mates who really should have been on the Normandy.

With that said, I thought the smaller squad size in ME3 worked pretty well. However, if there would have been a few missions scattered throughout ME3's campaign that were structured something like Suicide Mission, I would have LOVED a bigger squad to have doing a variety of tasks.

[DeinonSlayer]

CronoDragoon wrote...

My ME3 crew is: Miranda, Tali, Garrus, Vega, Liara, Javik.

Biotic/Tech
Tech
Tech/Combat
Combat
Biotic
Biotic/Combat

And nary a sexbot to be seen...

Sounds legit.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 11 décembre 2013 - 02:06 .

[David7204]

You know, I would really like to see a correlation between how much people supposedly 'hate' synthetics and aliens and how far they lean on the Paragon/Renegade scale. I imagine it would be very interesting.

[Matthias King]

David7204 wrote...

You know, I would really like to see a correlation between how much people supposedly 'hate' synthetics and aliens and how far they lean on the Paragon/Renegade scale. I imagine it would be very interesting.

It seems like you have a theory, so which way do you suspect which would lean?

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

You know, I would really like to see a correlation between how much people supposedly 'hate' synthetics and aliens and how far they lean on the Paragon/Renegade scale. I imagine it would be very interesting.

~70/30 Renegade to Paragon, anti-geth (not necessarily anti-synthetic) and more pro-human than anti-alien, I reserve actual contempt for an entire species for the asari, I'm fine with Salarians, Turians, Krogan, and Quarians

[dreamgazer]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

My ME3 crew is: Miranda, Tali, Garrus, Vega, Liara, Javik.

Biotic/Tech
Tech
Tech/Combat
Combat
Biotic
Biotic/Combat

And nary a sexbot to be seen...

Sounds legit.

Mhm.

I still like the idea of EDI getting a physical platform, though, albeit a toned down one.  

However, she'd stick to Normandy and Citadel duties. 

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

You know, I would really like to see a correlation between how much people supposedly 'hate' synthetics and aliens and how far they lean on the Paragon/Renegade scale. I imagine it would be very interesting.

Does it matter?

[David7204]

Well that's simple. I would fully expect people to 'hate' synthetics and aliens the more Renegade they lean.

Which is fine. The question is why. Particularly considering that it certainly seems to be Renegade players shrieking that Paragon players are 'blindly' picking the top choices and dialogue.

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Well that's simple. I would fully expect people to 'hate' synthetics and aliens the more Renegade they lean.

Which is fine. The question is why. Particularly considering that it certainly seems to be Renegade players shrieking that Paragon players are 'blindly' picking the top choices and dialogue.

Or perhaps people tend renegade because they dislike aliens and synthetics?

[KaiserShep]

The turians seem pretty OK for the most part, though they really like going balls deep when it comes to war.

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

Particularly considering that it certainly seems to be Renegade players shrieking that Paragon players are 'blindly' picking the top choices and dialogue.

Let's not generalize.  I'm a "Renegade player" (at least, partly), and I don't say that. Others don't, either.

[GreatBlueHeron]

Yall are no fun. Why so serious?

OP, your idea is excellent.

[DeinonSlayer]

David7204 wrote...

You know, I would really like to see a correlation between how much people supposedly 'hate' synthetics and aliens and how far they lean on the Paragon/Renegade scale. I imagine it would be very interesting.

My canon was somewhere around 60/40 paragon to renegade (then again, I modded my ME2 save to unlock all persuasions and only chose those which were in-character). I didn't let the color of the dialogue option influence my actions. I wouldn't call myself anti-alien (my canon LI is Tali), but I do have a very critical view of the Council oligarchy (as I would with any organization with the gall to appoint agents with unlimited power). I view the Geth as alive; I've only ever had a bone to pick with them on account of their actions. I think the Krogan are dangerous, and would recommend they be quarantined to their home system post-cure until their society reaches some kind of equilibrium and is ready to try interacting with the outside again.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 11 décembre 2013 - 02:19 .

[CronoDragoon]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
My canon was somewhere around 60/40 paragon to renegade (then again, I modded my ME2 save to unlock all persuasions and only chose those which were in-character). I didn't let the color of the dialogue option influence my actions. I wouldn't call myself anti-alien (my canon LI is Tali), but I do have a very critical view of the Council oligarchy (as I would with any organization with the gall to appoint agents with unlimited power). I view the Geth as alive; I've only ever had a bone to pick with them on account of their actions.

Indeed. Considering the geth alive is the only way you CAN hold them accountable for their actions.

Did 60/40 preclude any persuasion options for you? My next playthrough is either going to be a Paragade or a "no charm/intimidate" playthrough. I've been dying to get Tali exiled forever because she's better off the less she has to do with her idiot leaders, and because it makes for better drama.

[David7204]

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Well that's simple. I would fully expect people to 'hate' synthetics and aliens the more Renegade they lean.

Which is fine. The question is why. Particularly considering that it certainly seems to be Renegade players shrieking that Paragon players are 'blindly' picking the top choices and dialogue.

Or perhaps people tend renegade because they dislike aliens and synthetics?

Let's see. What is more ridiculous?

The idea that someone who 'hates' aliens and robots would ever spend time with science fiction clearly featuring both to begin with?

Or the idea that anyone but crazy rednecks worried about world domination and luddites 'hate' aliens and robots in the first place? Since they're not even proven/in existence yet?

Or the idea that aliens and synthetics in Mass Effect are so unlikeable and offensive that they deserve 'hate' when aliens and robots and other science fiction don't?

Modifié par David7204, 11 décembre 2013 - 02:23 .

[DeinonSlayer]

CronoDragoon wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

My canon was somewhere around 60/40 paragon to renegade (then again, I modded my ME2 save to unlock all persuasions and only chose those which were in-character). I didn't let the color of the dialogue option influence my actions. I wouldn't call myself anti-alien (my canon LI is Tali), but I do have a very critical view of the Council oligarchy (as I would with any organization with the gall to appoint agents with unlimited power). I view the Geth as alive; I've only ever had a bone to pick with them on account of their actions. I think the Krogan are dangerous, and would recommend they be quarantined to their home system post-cure until their society reaches some kind of equilibrium and is ready to try interacting with the outside again.

Indeed. Considering the geth alive is the only way you CAN hold them accountable for their actions.

Did 60/40 preclude any persuasion options for you? My next playthrough is either going to be a Paragade or a "no charm/intimidate" playthrough. I've been dying to get Tali exiled forever because she's better off the less she has to do with her idiot leaders, and because it makes for better drama.

Like I said, I modded my ME2 save to unlock all persuasions (took my ME1 imported paragon/renegade and multiplied both by five or so) so roleplaying would be unfettered. ME3 relies only on reputation for persuasions to be unlocked; paragon/renegade only affect Shepard's scars and a handful of conversations. I've never tried a "no persuasions" playthrough; I just ignored whichever persuasion options were out of character for that particular Shepard.

I tend to metagame the hell out of certain RPGs, so certain Shepards are set up to fail.

Really, there can only ever be one truly blind playthrough.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 11 décembre 2013 - 02:27 .

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

luddites

HUZZAH!

[His Name was HYR!!]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

luddites

HUZZAH!

*snip*

Troll dual-identity confirmed!!

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Well that's simple. I would fully expect people to 'hate' synthetics and aliens the more Renegade they lean.

Which is fine. The question is why. Particularly considering that it certainly seems to be Renegade players shrieking that Paragon players are 'blindly' picking the top choices and dialogue.

Or perhaps people tend renegade because they dislike aliens and synthetics?

Let's see. What is more ridiculous?

The idea that someone who 'hates' aliens and robots would ever spend time with science fiction clearly featuring both to begin with?

Or the idea that anyone but crazy rednecks worried about world domination and luddites 'hate' aliens and robots in the first place? Since they're not even proven/in existence yet?

Or the idea that aliens and synthetics in Mass Effect are so unlikeable and offensive that they deserve 'hate' when aliens and robots and other science fiction don't?