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[Kohaku]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

If he lives, I bet the Baldwin quarian is going to be the next Bann Teagan/Cullen/Garrus.

"He was flirting with meeee, eevil devs! He was he was he totally was!!! Why can't we romance him?"



For the record, if we absolutely have to have a quarian in our squad, the Baldwin quarian is a much better and interesting choice than Tali. The brief bits we've seen, he's already far more distinctive and memorable. I'm only exaggerating a little.

Now this. I can totally see happening. Teagan has a life of his own now. All thanks to these boards.

[Gambit One]

Mokthr wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

Okay the OP hates a character for trying to be helpful and being different...dude you have got issues

No the OP hates a character because a lot of other people like her. So he doesn't really hate the character, but her fanbase.

Thats not really true. I've been on this forum for 2 days, I've hated Tali since 2007. 

I've said it before but I feel like I have to repeat it. I don't hate Tali. I hate her character, from a writing standpoint. 

Modifié par Gambit One, 20 janvier 2010 - 08:50 .

[Lycidas]

Mokthr wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

Okay the OP hates a character for trying to be helpful and being different...dude you have got issues

No the OP hates a character because a lot of other people like her. So he doesn't really hate the character, but her fanbase.

Okay and in this case comming to the forum where most of those people that like said character are and postiong how much he hates her for no reason at all makes him what...A Troll maby?
He is not aksing for a discussion by the way he is posting but for a flame war.

Modifié par Lycidas, 20 janvier 2010 - 08:52 .

[Rip504]

Gambit One wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

I didn't get offended,your thread is full of ignorance,so I responded with a post to match that.

You have posted mass effect poetry on this site. I'll leave it at that.

You have been here for more then 2 days...
Why do you start a thread and evade every question someone has about the op?

[rines]

Gambit One wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

Okay the OP hates a character for trying to be helpful and being different...dude you have got issues

No the OP hates a character because a lot of other people like her. So he doesn't really hate the character, but her fanbase.

Thats not really true. I've been on this forum for 2 days, I've hated Tali since 2007. 

I've said it before but I feel like I have to repeat it. I don't hate Tali. I hate her character, from a writing standpoint. 

I agree with gambit, i disliked her from the beginning. Im pretty sure there is so much lashing out at gambit because everyone in this thread is a butthurt fanboy. SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERNET OPINION THAN ME!? THIS IS NOT PERMITTED!

[Gambit One]

Lycidas wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

Okay the OP hates a character for trying to be helpful and being different...dude you have got issues

No the OP hates a character because a lot of other people like her. So he doesn't really hate the character, but her fanbase.

Okay and in this case comming to the forum where most of those people that like said character are and postiong how much he hates her with no reason at all makes him what...A Troll maby?
He is not aksing for a discussion by the way he is posting but for a flame war.

Why are you talking to him about me instead of talking to me?

[Monster A-Go Go]

It strikes me that somehow it's far more pathetic to waste time expressing "hate" about a fictional character than it is to either appreciate or maintain an indifference about that character.



It strikes me as doubly pathetic to be so full of hate that you would waste your time seeking out other like-minded individuals as full of hate as yourself, as though people who enjoy seething in puddles of their own anger are good company.



It also strikes me that there is not one group of people consolidated around hatred that has ever done any good for their cause. KKK? Black Panthers? Taliban? N@zis? The Creativity Movement? The Westboro Baptist Church? Women for Aryan Unity?



At the worst, you're a lynch mob. At the best, you're a bunch of lonely souls sitting around in a basement, smelling your fingers, and congratulating yourselves for realizing how bleak the world is and having the courage to hate things accordingly.

[Gambit One]

Rip504 wrote...

Gambit One wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

I didn't get offended,your thread is full of ignorance,so I responded with a post to match that.

You have posted mass effect poetry on this site. I'll leave it at that.

You have been here for more then 2 days...
Why do you start a thread and evade every question someone has about the op?

First off, I joined the forum a while back, but only used it for ME2 News. I didnt start actually reading and posting until today.

What questions did I avoid? I'd be happy to answer them if it will stop you from responding. 

[Lycidas]

Gambit One wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

Okay the OP hates a character for trying to be helpful and being different...dude you have got issues

No the OP hates a character because a lot of other people like her. So he doesn't really hate the character, but her fanbase.

Okay and in this case comming to the forum where most of those people that like said character are and postiong how much he hates her with no reason at all makes him what...A Troll maby?
He is not aksing for a discussion by the way he is posting but for a flame war.

Why are you talking to him about me instead of talking to me?

Well because he has been talking to me.

[Mokthr]

rines wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Darth Odan wrote...

Gambit One wrote...


However, when I say that I hate Tali, I mean something completely different. I think the character Tali is so freakin' pointless. I don't mind the Quarians, but Tali makes me angry. Any other Quarian squad member would have been perfect. She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team. 

Yes. She's unimportant in Mass Effect one. Oh, that's right, she gives you the evidence that proves Saren's guilt, makes you a Spectre, gives you the Normandy, and basically starts of the mission. Yep, she's completely useless...

Yea, uhm, no to the last three. She doesnt give you the normandy, nor does she make you a spectre, nore does starts the mission. Wtf game did you play?

Because if she didn't get the audio files from that geth, there goes the evidence you needed to prove Saren was responsible for Eden Prime. That evidence is the only reason the council allows Shepard to become a spectre so he could go after Saren. And if Shepard didn't become a spectre, they never would have given him full control of the Normandy.

Even though this is true, she didnt give it to him, Udina did. And You dont know that, there is a possibilty Shepard could have found evidence himself. It would only be a poor assumption to say the only way Shepard got the ship and his status is because of her. He could have done it on his own, but i cant prove that is true, and you cant prove that is false.

well judging by the storyline and the fact that it's game over if you don't get to her in time, i have more facts to prove that it's true than you do to prove that it's false

[Gambit One]

Eccentrick79 wrote...

It strikes me that somehow it's far more pathetic to waste time expressing "hate" about a fictional character than it is to either appreciate or maintain an indifference about that character.

It strikes me as doubly pathetic to be so full of hate that you would waste your time seeking out other like-minded individuals as full of hate as yourself, as though people who enjoy seething in puddles of their own anger are good company.

It also strikes me that there is not one group of people consolidated around hatred that has ever done any good for their cause. KKK? Black Panthers? Taliban? N@zis? The Creativity Movement? The Westboro Baptist Church? Women for Aryan Unity?

At the worst, you're a lynch mob. At the best, you're a bunch of lonely souls sitting around in a basement, smelling your fingers, and congratulating yourselves for realizing how bleak the world is and having the courage to hate things accordingly.

I've said it before, but I guess people don't read. 

Hate is not taken in the literal sense. We are using the word to compare the characters. It is all relative.

[Rip504]

You advoided every question I asked,go back and read...

Except you hate Tali just cause and felt the need to make a thread???

[rines]

Eccentrick79 wrote...

It strikes me that somehow it's far more pathetic to waste time expressing "hate" about a fictional character than it is to either appreciate or maintain an indifference about that character.

It strikes me as doubly pathetic to be so full of hate that you would waste your time seeking out other like-minded individuals as full of hate as yourself, as though people who enjoy seething in puddles of their own anger are good company.

It also strikes me that there is not one group of people consolidated around hatred that has ever done any good for their cause. KKK? Black Panthers? Taliban? N@zis? The Creativity Movement? The Westboro Baptist Church? Women for Aryan Unity?

At the worst, you're a lynch mob. At the best, you're a bunch of lonely souls sitting around in a basement, smelling your fingers, and congratulating yourselves for realizing how bleak the world is and having the courage to hate things accordingly.

And i find it pathetic you instantly assume all of this from reading words on an internet message board. Perhaps you are taking everything too seriously. It's also pathetic of you to say "it's far more pathetic to waste time expressing "hate" about a
fictional character than it is to either appreciate or maintain an
indifference about that character." as that means no one can have a differnet opinion as its essentially pointless. Perhaps i should compare you with tyrany? Only the foolish make assumptions. 

[Gambit One]

Rip504 wrote...

You advoided every question I asked,go back and read...
Except you hate Tali just cause and felt the need to make a thread???

For the love of god.

IF YOU WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO USE PROPER ENGLISH people may actually be able to UNDERSTAND your questions. I didn't answer them because they didn't make sense. Learn to f*cking talk.

[Rip504]

And everyone is taking this to serious me and Gambit One are having a discussion where we disagree to help pass time until the 26th.

[Lycidas]

Gambit One wrote...

Eccentrick79 wrote...

It strikes me that somehow it's far more pathetic to waste time expressing "hate" about a fictional character than it is to either appreciate or maintain an indifference about that character.

It strikes me as doubly pathetic to be so full of hate that you would waste your time seeking out other like-minded individuals as full of hate as yourself, as though people who enjoy seething in puddles of their own anger are good company.

It also strikes me that there is not one group of people consolidated around hatred that has ever done any good for their cause. KKK? Black Panthers? Taliban? N@zis? The Creativity Movement? The Westboro Baptist Church? Women for Aryan Unity?

At the worst, you're a lynch mob. At the best, you're a bunch of lonely souls sitting around in a basement, smelling your fingers, and congratulating yourselves for realizing how bleak the world is and having the courage to hate things accordingly.

I've said it before, but I guess people don't read. 

Hate is not taken in the literal sense. We are using the word to compare the characters. It is all relative.

Well in this case I have got a hint for you.
1) Think
2) Think again
3) Post

[rines]

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Darth Odan wrote...

Gambit One wrote...


However, when I say that I hate Tali, I mean something completely different. I think the character Tali is so freakin' pointless. I don't mind the Quarians, but Tali makes me angry. Any other Quarian squad member would have been perfect. She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team. 

Yes. She's unimportant in Mass Effect one. Oh, that's right, she gives you the evidence that proves Saren's guilt, makes you a Spectre, gives you the Normandy, and basically starts of the mission. Yep, she's completely useless...

Yea, uhm, no to the last three. She doesnt give you the normandy, nor does she make you a spectre, nore does starts the mission. Wtf game did you play?

Because if she didn't get the audio files from that geth, there goes the evidence you needed to prove Saren was responsible for Eden Prime. That evidence is the only reason the council allows Shepard to become a spectre so he could go after Saren. And if Shepard didn't become a spectre, they never would have given him full control of the Normandy.

Even though this is true, she didnt give it to him, Udina did. And You dont know that, there is a possibilty Shepard could have found evidence himself. It would only be a poor assumption to say the only way Shepard got the ship and his status is because of her. He could have done it on his own, but i cant prove that is true, and you cant prove that is false.

well judging by the storyline and the fact that it's game over if you don't get to her in time, i have more facts to prove that it's true than you do to prove that it's false

All right, i will agree with you on this, even though im not a fan of tali, you are correct. Though it is possible shepard could have done it himself, it was tali who actually did it.

[Rip504]

Look he rufuse to answer the questions,just wants to attack me on his "Tali Troll thread" lol.

[Gambit One]

Rip504 wrote...

And everyone is taking this to serious me and Gambit One are having a discussion where we disagree to help pass time until the 26th.

Speak for yourself there buddy. I don't just disagree with people to pass time.

[Mokthr]

rines wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Darth Odan wrote...

Gambit One wrote...


However, when I say that I hate Tali, I mean something completely different. I think the character Tali is so freakin' pointless. I don't mind the Quarians, but Tali makes me angry. Any other Quarian squad member would have been perfect. She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team. 

Yes. She's unimportant in Mass Effect one. Oh, that's right, she gives you the evidence that proves Saren's guilt, makes you a Spectre, gives you the Normandy, and basically starts of the mission. Yep, she's completely useless...

Yea, uhm, no to the last three. She doesnt give you the normandy, nor does she make you a spectre, nore does starts the mission. Wtf game did you play?

Because if she didn't get the audio files from that geth, there goes the evidence you needed to prove Saren was responsible for Eden Prime. That evidence is the only reason the council allows Shepard to become a spectre so he could go after Saren. And if Shepard didn't become a spectre, they never would have given him full control of the Normandy.

Even though this is true, she didnt give it to him, Udina did. And You dont know that, there is a possibilty Shepard could have found evidence himself. It would only be a poor assumption to say the only way Shepard got the ship and his status is because of her. He could have done it on his own, but i cant prove that is true, and you cant prove that is false.

well judging by the storyline and the fact that it's game over if you don't get to her in time, i have more facts to prove that it's true than you do to prove that it's false

All right, i will agree with you on this, even though im not a fan of tali, you are correct. Though it is possible shepard could have done it himself, it was tali who actually did it.

actually he couldn't because no one but the quarians knew enough about the geth to retrieve the data from their memory banks before it was wiped clean.

[rines]

Rip504 wrote...

Look he rufuse to answer the questions,just wants to attack me on his "Tali Troll thread" lol.

Each post is within a minute of each other, give it some time before you draw the conclusion of avoidance.

[Gambit One]

Lycidas wrote...



Well in this case I have got a hint for you.
1) Think
2) Think again
3) Post

What does this have to do with anything? What does someone missing one of my posts have to do with me thinking before i post something?

[Gambit One]

rines wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Look he rufuse to answer the questions,just wants to attack me on his "Tali Troll thread" lol.

Each post is within a minute of each other, give it some time before you draw the conclusion of avoidance.

Either that or make the questions readable. 

[Rip504]

I thought ppl got on forums for entertainment??

[rines]

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Mokthr wrote...

rines wrote...

Darth Odan wrote...

Gambit One wrote...


However, when I say that I hate Tali, I mean something completely different. I think the character Tali is so freakin' pointless. I don't mind the Quarians, but Tali makes me angry. Any other Quarian squad member would have been perfect. She is just uninteresting and unimportant in Mass Effect 1, and has next to no tie with the story (other than giving you Saren's evidence). It makes me angry that she of all people was brought back to the team. 

Yes. She's unimportant in Mass Effect one. Oh, that's right, she gives you the evidence that proves Saren's guilt, makes you a Spectre, gives you the Normandy, and basically starts of the mission. Yep, she's completely useless...

Yea, uhm, no to the last three. She doesnt give you the normandy, nor does she make you a spectre, nore does starts the mission. Wtf game did you play?

Because if she didn't get the audio files from that geth, there goes the evidence you needed to prove Saren was responsible for Eden Prime. That evidence is the only reason the council allows Shepard to become a spectre so he could go after Saren. And if Shepard didn't become a spectre, they never would have given him full control of the Normandy.

Even though this is true, she didnt give it to him, Udina did. And You dont know that, there is a possibilty Shepard could have found evidence himself. It would only be a poor assumption to say the only way Shepard got the ship and his status is because of her. He could have done it on his own, but i cant prove that is true, and you cant prove that is false.

well judging by the storyline and the fact that it's game over if you don't get to her in time, i have more facts to prove that it's true than you do to prove that it's false

All right, i will agree with you on this, even though im not a fan of tali, you are correct. Though it is possible shepard could have done it himself, it was tali who actually did it.

actually he couldn't because no one but the quarians knew enough about the geth to retrieve the data from their memory banks before it was wiped clean.

We dont know that, its possible some salarian figured out a way and shepard happened to find him. Theres multiple ways it could have happened, but like I said, I admit Tali was the one who essentially got him his status and ship, BUT it could have happened a different way.