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What does Synthesis mean to you?


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CosmicGnosis

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The most controversial ending of Mass Effect 3 is also the most ambiguous. The explanation for what it does is more mystical than scientific, and the results may or may not have sinister undertones. Because the ending is so ambiguous, people can interpret it in many ways.

So what does Synthesis mean to you? Does it promote freedom or enslavement? Is it progressive or regressive? Maybe something completely different?

I realize that many of you will express negative opinions about Synthesis, but I'm still interested in your thoughts. Despite the widespread hate, it seems that there are varying interpretations for why Synthesis is "bad". And of course, there are some who think Synthesis is good.

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AcidwireX

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The death of any plot following ME3.

Either Synthesis creates a utopia of peace where no one steps on each other's toes anymore because they're 'linked', thereby killing any conflict for a future story, or nothing changes aside from glowing green skin (which, as indicated by Joker's limp, seems to be the case) that, at worst, allows the Reapers a connection with everyone in the galaxy at once, turning them all into indoctrinated slaves forever.

Shepard's death is wasted on Synthesis. I pick Destroy myself, but I'd rather have him die in Control with an actual tangible grip on the Reapers rather than turning everyone into cyborgs so we could maybe hold hands and sing together.

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Synthesis is forcing the galaxy to submit to the Qun. It is the removal of freedom to be who and what you are and forcing you to conform to some outside concept of "perfection" and "purpose".

It is the lack of faith in organics and synthetics to work out their differences on their own.

It is pure space magic, having no basis in either real-world science or that of the MEU prior to its revelation

It is a jaded, cynical outlook on the galaxy dressed up as an'ideal" solution

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It means that everyone looks like the robots from almost human.

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An opportunity to create a utopia/dystopia/Brave New World that I take pleasure in rejecting.

As Egon Spengler says:

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"It's whatever it wants to be".

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A reason to drink heavily and throw away every mirror in the house.

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I don't object so much to the idea of Synthesis (I just laugh at it because it's so silly), I object to it more on a story basis. In a game that's about how biodiversity is a good thing, it's strange to have an ending that implies that peace can only be achieved through making everyone have the same DNA.

That's probably why many, including myself, say Synthesis is bad, despite the epilogue preaching how it's the greatest thing ever.

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A good notional concept for storytelling that was meant for a different story and marred by terrible writing, explanation, and execution, and should never have been introduced as a concept in Mass Effect that late in the series.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 11 décembre 2013 - 10:26 .


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ImaginaryMatter wrote...

That's probably why many, including myself, say Synthesis is bad, despite the epilogue preaching how it's the greatest thing ever.


Meh.  One man's immortality and boundless possibilities is another man's stagnation and futility. 

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KaiserShep

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Immortality sounds like hell to me.

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Cainhurst Crow

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Synthesis sounds like the start of the deus ex series tbh.

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Mainly it's the execution, and that it feels like it doesn't really belong. They introduced it too late.  Plus the epilogue feels...too happy as well.  At this point, I'm pretty indifferent to it, but it's still an ending I would never pick in it's current condition.

Modifié par ruggly, 11 décembre 2013 - 10:41 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

That's probably why many, including myself, say Synthesis is bad, despite the epilogue preaching how it's the greatest thing ever.


Meh.  One man's immortality and boundless possibilities is another man's stagnation and futility. 


SuperMac?

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DeinonSlayer

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It's about as welcome as unexpectedly getting a syringe stuck in one's ass on the subway.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

It's about as welcome as unexpectedly getting a syringe up the ass on the subway.


Has... has that actually happened to someone you know?

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dreamgazer

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Ravensword wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

That's probably why many, including myself, say Synthesis is bad, despite the epilogue preaching how it's the greatest thing ever.


Meh.  One man's immortality and boundless possibilities is another man's stagnation and futility. 


SuperMac?


Huh? It's a simple difference in perspective on utopian societies.

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DeinonSlayer

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Deathsaurer wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

It's about as welcome as unexpectedly getting a syringe up the ass on the subway.

Has... has that actually happened to someone you know?

No. I've heard of that happening, junkies and the like, but I don't speak from experience. Perhaps a more common comparison would be someone getting GHB slipped in their drink at a party.

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Deathsaurer

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Yeah, that'd probably be a better one.

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Ravensword

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dreamgazer wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

That's probably why many, including myself, say Synthesis is bad, despite the epilogue preaching how it's the greatest thing ever.


Meh.  One man's immortality and boundless possibilities is another man's stagnation and futility. 


SuperMac?


Huh? It's a simple difference in perspective on utopian societies.


Well, SuperMac thought that synthesis was be-all and end-all of utopian societies.

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ImaginaryMatter

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

It's about as welcome as unexpectedly getting a syringe stuck in one's ass on the subway.


Well now I'll have that darting through my mind whenever I take the subway.

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Deathsaurer

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Ackbar looks good with green eyes.

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CosmicGnosis wrote...

The most controversial ending of Mass Effect 3 is also the most ambiguous. The explanation for what it does is more mystical than scientific, and the results may or may not have sinister undertones. Because the ending is so ambiguous, people can interpret it in many ways.

So what does Synthesis mean to you? Does it promote freedom or enslavement? Is it progressive or regressive? Maybe something completely different?

I realize that many of you will express negative opinions about Synthesis, but I'm still interested in your thoughts. Despite the widespread hate, it seems that there are varying interpretations for why Synthesis is "bad". And of course, there are some who think Synthesis is good.


All that green...I have seen something very similar seen executed a whole lot better regarding those two points before.

Best thing, it's no big deal whether one spins disaster or paradise as to what follows: wide open, with implications to either end of the spectrum given.

Not to mention everyone knows what's up, pre-recorded broadcast or not.

iakus wrote...

Synthesis is forcing the galaxy to submit to the Qun. It is the removal of freedom to be who and what you are and forcing you to conform to some outside concept of "perfection" and "purpose".


To be fair, the qun is a lot more honest about it and still relies on conversion first, and reconditioning later.

Modifié par Chashan, 11 décembre 2013 - 10:52 .


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Synthesis has never bothered me, morally or ethically. If I woke up one day and Synthesis had occurred and I was now half machine I really wouldn't give a f***, it would be pretty coil actually.

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 *edit* dingus double-post. *edit*

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 11 décembre 2013 - 11:04 .