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Please put my mind at ease and tell me the current DA:I Cassandra has a placeholder face


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SomeoneStoleMyName

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This is Cassandra in DA2

img34.imageshack.us/img34/3712/cassandra4.jpg

Now look at the DA:I version:

media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/electronic-arts2012/bioware/dragonage/Cassandra61081913.jpg

Even worse, look at the Kotaku video here at 12:41

http://kotaku.com/30...5108?autoplay=1

Cassandra allready looked perfectly fine, why turn her into an abomination? Please tell me this is a rushed version of some horrible placeholder :( (Edit: I mean come on, she doesent even look remotely like herself)

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 11 décembre 2013 - 09:40 .


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David Gaider

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ShallowChasm wrote...
Anyways, I think her new design looks great.


Thanks. I'm sure the artists would be pleased to hear that.

I'm also pretty sure the devs least concern is catering to certain individuals skewed perception of beauty.


Pretty much. The appearances for our major female characters run a gamut of styles, and I doubt there's a way to make any of them universally appealing. Some will be found attractive, some unattractive. We're okay with that. Not everyone needs to be a bland supermodel.

Also, to everyone complaining about how she isn't as 'pretty' as she was in DA2: so what?


I imagine it's not that she isn't as pretty (or, at least, I hope not), but rather that she just looks different. Personally, I do think she looks a little different, but only a little. If someone claims she looks unrecognizeable compared to DA2, I'd say that's pretty far-fetched.

It took some getting used to, initially, but I actually like her new appearance better (the one you see in the PAX demo, anyhow, which is a bit refined from the first time we showed her). Not everyone's going to agree, which is fine, but she's my character and I think she works... so meh. :)

Modifié par David Gaider, 12 décembre 2013 - 04:26 .


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ShallowChasm wrote...
I do not get how some people keep calling her manly and saying she looks like a man. How? How is she that unfeminine to some people? There is absolutely no way I could mistake her for a man.
 
Will someone please explain this to me? Seriously, I really would like to know.


I am attracted to women who are very feminine.
This is a woman I find unattractive.
Therefore, this woman looks like a man.


A tragedy in the offing, clearly.

Modifié par David Gaider, 12 décembre 2013 - 06:58 .

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DinoSteve wrote...
You know not every woman is attractive, that doesn't mean they look like men, but Cassandra does look like a man. When I first seen her I didn't kop on it was supposed to be Cassandra, I thought to myself what with the ugly looking dude.


Perhaps you need to see more women, then.

We're happy to oblige. ;)

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David Gaider

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ShallowChasm wrote...
A tragedy indeed, Mr. Gaider. And it's already happened. Sadly.


Yes. We, too, are very sad.

Let us all hang our heads in melancholic comisseration for those who must endure the presence of insufficiently feminine women. They are the unsung heroes among us.
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DarthLaxian wrote...
And - do me a favour will you? - don't tell me: The new engine can't handly their looks or something like that (i play a lot of BF4 and that engine can do good looking faces (even on the non-descript player characters from Multi-Player!!!))


Ah, you discovered it. We actually did prettier versions of Cassandra and Morrigan, and the new engine spat them back out and said, "What do you think you are? BF4?" Goddamn capricious game engines, man.

I actually took this to Matt Goldman, our Art Director, and said, "New engine aside, couldn't you at least have made Cassandra and Morrigan look exactly like they did before? They were universally pretty back then. Everyone on our forums thought so, even from the first screenshots. And now..."

And he wept, man. He wept.

Tsk. Crunch is hard on artists.

Modifié par David Gaider, 12 décembre 2013 - 08:34 .


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Direwolf0294 wrote...
It seems the general consensus is that it's okay to judge Cassandra on her sex appeal if find her attractive, but it's not okay to to judge her sex appeal if you don't find her attractive.

So you're allowed to say she's hot, but you're not allowed to say she's not hot.


I think it's fine for someone to suggest that they find Cassandra unattractive, or that they find any character unattractive.

The problem, as I see it, is that many of those who make such comments don't stop there. The implication of their statements often progresses to the point that the only purpose a female character could have in the game is to be attractive--it's not even "I wouldn't want to romance her if she's romanceable" but rather "I don't want her present at all because she's unattractive".

In other words, critique regarding the art is great. I'm sure the artists appreciate it, even when it's negative. Critique regarding the attractiveness is also fine, but if it comes with an assumption that we only put characters in the game to be pretty... well, then you're wrong. I'm afraid a statement of "she's not attractive enough for me" will be met with a resounding shrug and a "sorry for your loss".

Modifié par David Gaider, 13 décembre 2013 - 05:49 .

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And I see this thread is still going---prompted by the same two posters repeatedly spinning the plate by making new posts as if they haven't opined on the subject before.

So the tl;dr -- some people liked her DA2 look better. Some people think she looks too masculine in DAI. Some people really like her new look. Some people really like to exaggerate. And just about everyone else either doesn't care or is willing to wait until they see more than an early screenshot.

I feel I need an appropriate doge meme for this.

At any rate, we're done. Start a new thread if you want to have an actual discussion--but if those posters (and you know who you are) do so simply to troll responses, they'll be shown the door. Duly warned be thee, says I.